But there's no reasoning with the elderly on...

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Yeah, right. You have your own GREEDY interests. When I have someone REASONABLE to discuss this with, I'll sit down and discuss it. Until then I would reccomend that anyone reading this who is 50 or older join AARP and donate a little extra to help force the "radical right" to the bargining table.

Your dismissed.

You want greedy? How's this:
The first recipient of Social Security, Ida Mae Fuller, would surely have scoffed at arguments in favor of "privatization." She was a legal secretary from Vermont who retired in 1939 and began collecting benefits in January 1940 at age 65. She worked under the Social Security program for three years and paid of total of $24.75 in taxes during that time. Her monthly checks were $22.54 (there were no COLAs until 1975). She died in 1975 at the age of 100 and collected a total of $22,888.92 in benefits during her retirement years.

AARP state chapter site

You people paid in pennies on the dollar and claim you're only taking what 'you paid in'. Please. No wonder you don't want change - you want to finish emptying the piggy bank before anyone can stop you. And you call me greedy.

Greedy is exactly what you are. You bring up ancient history to try and justify your position. Well, guess what dumbass. Your ansectors benifited in exactly the same manner as Ide Mae Fuller, but you expect me to pay their bill also, don't you. LMAO, if brains were dynamite, you would have enough to blow your nose with.

Oh so because the previous generation raped the current one should be able to?

Why dont you do the right thing and have SS fixed instead of driving your kids into the dirt so you can collect you welfare payment.

This really starting to get funny. You also expect me to pay for your ancestors SS. I've got a better idea, you pay for it and mine, LMAO!!!!!!!!

Already paying yours ya leech. Since my ancestors are dead there isnt anything left to pay. However if they were still alive I would be paying for them as well.

No your not, but you will be. Thanks in advance. :laugh:

 

[Steeplerot]

Noone is poor and holds such selfish views, sugar daddy maybe?

Your worldview is very sheltered as is the rest of you "stealing from me waaah" folks.

If you knew poverty you would not be such jerks to fellow americans. espically the most needy.

And the right considers itself christians bah.....

Do yourself a favor and just give it up you have 0 credibility.

Go cry for your trust fund check or to your sugar daddy or whatever.

I am not buying it.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

You will be getting it short enough from what I can tell. You pay double because you own your own business. That isnt rocket science buddy and if you dont like it then fold the business and work for somebody else.

LOL, that's as original as telling me you not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Noone is poor and holds such selfish views, sugar daddy maybe?

Your worldview is very sheltered as is the rest of you "stealing from me waaah" folks.

What about being poor makes you unselfish?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

You will be getting it short enough from what I can tell. You pay double because you own your own business. That isnt rocket science buddy and if you dont like it then fold the business and work for somebody else.

LOL, that's as original as telling me you not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Fold the business, simple as that.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Noone is poor and holds such selfish views, sugar daddy maybe?

Your worldview is very sheltered as is the rest of you "stealing from me waaah" folks.

As I said earlier, their nothing but a bunch of spoiled kids.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Noone is poor and holds such selfish views, sugar daddy maybe?

Why do you even have to ask, since you assume you know me so well already?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Noone is poor and holds such selfish views, sugar daddy maybe?

Your worldview is very sheltered as is the rest of you "stealing from me waaah" folks.

As I said earlier, their nothing but a bunch of spoiled kids.

As he cries about changing SS so he cant steal from those kids.

kk

 

[Steeplerot]

Yeah I know plenty of you trust fund spoiled brats and you fit the bill to a t.

Go piss on someone elses country. Where are you from? asia?

A sh1thole over there would fit you better.

make sure to pick a totalitarian one too so you dont miss your bush-god too much.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

You will be getting it short enough from what I can tell. You pay double because you own your own business. That isnt rocket science buddy and if you dont like it then fold the business and work for somebody else.

LOL, that's as original as telling me you not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Fold the business, simple as that.

If you don't like it, leave. You wouldn't want to hurt the economy by closing up a business, would you??? On the other hand, if you left a more deserving soul could have your job.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

You advocate stealing from the working yet you claim I'm money oriented? SS is about money - and you want to take it from everyone else instead of doing what generation after generation has done - take care of their own family.

Good for you, I'm glad you take care of your parents - now if we could just work on your entitlement(to other people's earnings) attitude.

CsG

We're all in the same family. God says so.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Noone is poor and holds such selfish views, sugar daddy maybe?

Why do you even have to ask, since you assume you know me so well already?

Seems to me your the one doing all teh ASSuming here.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah I know plenty of you trust fund spoiled brats and you fit the bill to a t.

Go piss on someone elses country. Where are you from? asia?

A sh1thole over there would fit you better.

make sure to pick a totalitarian one too so you dont miss your bush-god.

rotflmao

Nothing but tolerance in those words.

Typical liberal.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah I know plenty of you trust fund spoiled brats and you fit the bill to a t.

Go piss on someone elses country. Where are you from? asia?

A sh1thole over there would fit you better.

make sure to pick a totalitarian one too so you dont miss your bush-god.

You've got that sweet rig and the kind of free time to post 3300+ in just over a year, and I've got the trust fund? Whatever. Must be easier to argue when you just debate strawmen.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

You will be getting it short enough from what I can tell. You pay double because you own your own business. That isnt rocket science buddy and if you dont like it then fold the business and work for somebody else.

LOL, that's as original as telling me you not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Fold the business, simple as that.

If you don't like it, leave. You wouldn't want to hurt the economy by closing up a business, would you??? On the other hand, if you left a more deserving soul could have your job.

Byu judging how you conduct yourself on these forums. Your business is probably in ruins. If it folded nobody would give a rats fart.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

You advocate stealing from the working yet you claim I'm money oriented? SS is about money - and you want to take it from everyone else instead of doing what generation after generation has done - take care of their own family.

Good for you, I'm glad you take care of your parents - now if we could just work on your entitlement(to other people's earnings) attitude.

CsG

We're all in the same family. God says so.

Cad, if you were talking to me in person like this, I'd just call you out. You must feel really important/special being able to talk so tough without having to back it up.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

You advocate stealing from the working yet you claim I'm money oriented? SS is about money - and you want to take it from everyone else instead of doing what generation after generation has done - take care of their own family.

Good for you, I'm glad you take care of your parents - now if we could just work on your entitlement(to other people's earnings) attitude.

CsG

We're all in the same family. God says so.

Cad, if you were talking to me in person like this, I'd just call you out. You must feel really important/special being able to talk so tough without having to back it up.

And now come the physical threats - nice.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

You will be getting it short enough from what I can tell. You pay double because you own your own business. That isnt rocket science buddy and if you dont like it then fold the business and work for somebody else.

LOL, that's as original as telling me you not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Fold the business, simple as that.

If you don't like it, leave. You wouldn't want to hurt the economy by closing up a business, would you??? On the other hand, if you left a more deserving soul could have your job.

Byu judging how you conduct yourself on these forums. Your business is probably in ruins. If it folded nobody would give a rats fart.

If my business is doing so bad, why do you suppose I have the time to argue with idiots like you?? I love farming and doubt (barring serious illness/injury) that I will retire until they haul me off to the old folks home.

You never siad, what is it you do??

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah I know plenty of you trust fund spoiled brats and you fit the bill to a t.

Go piss on someone elses country. Where are you from? asia?

A sh1thole over there would fit you better.

make sure to pick a totalitarian one too so you dont miss your bush-god.

You've got that sweet rig and the kind of free time to post 3300+ in just over a year, and I've got the trust fund? Whatever. Must be easier to argue when you just debate strawmen.

my sweet rig I get from working in the industry not my mama-sans teat.

another spoiled brat calling strawman, save it kid.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87
One question I do have is does SS have a law which doesnt allow it to deficit spend?

Meaning in 2042 when it is nearly 1 trillion short they are required to lower benefits to match the projected shortfall?

You don't care if the poor make enough money to be able to set aside for their retirement and the poor don't care how much SS costs.

I spent over 30 years paying SS and I knew it had problems, but what is the alternative? I'm certainly not going to trust Generation X, or the current liars in office to give me a fair break. Especially when i see them squandering the money giving tax cuts to the rich when they can't even balance their budget.

:thumbsup:

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

You advocate stealing from the working yet you claim I'm money oriented? SS is about money - and you want to take it from everyone else instead of doing what generation after generation has done - take care of their own family.

Good for you, I'm glad you take care of your parents - now if we could just work on your entitlement(to other people's earnings) attitude.

CsG

We're all in the same family. God says so.

Cad, if you were talking to me in person like this, I'd just call you out. You must feel really important/special being able to talk so tough without having to back it up.

And now come the physical threats - nice.

Anybody who repeatedly calls me a thief is going to be in trouble in a face to face encounter. Simple as that.

 

[Steeplerot]

But, but I thought bush's policys would unite us as americans, more lies from the spoon-fed right proven to be total bulls1t, look at this mess.

Why should anything coming from him you support hold an ounce of water?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Cad, if you were talking to me in person like this, I'd just call you out. You must feel really important/special being able to talk so tough without having to back it up.

<- trembling.

First it was red trying to intimidate me - now you. I'm so terrified I think I might.... :roll:

OK, call me out I really don't care. I have provided plenty to back it up. You just don't like it and just want to call me names. Well, whatever helps you feel better about your entitlement attitude. *shrug*

CsG

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

You will be getting it short enough from what I can tell. You pay double because you own your own business. That isnt rocket science buddy and if you dont like it then fold the business and work for somebody else.

LOL, that's as original as telling me you not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Fold the business, simple as that.

If you don't like it, leave. You wouldn't want to hurt the economy by closing up a business, would you??? On the other hand, if you left a more deserving soul could have your job.

Byu judging how you conduct yourself on these forums. Your business is probably in ruins. If it folded nobody would give a rats fart.

If my business is doing so bad, why do you suppose I have the time to argue with idiots like you?? I love farming and doubt (barring serious illness/injury) that I will retire until they haul me off to the old folks home.

You never siad, what is it you do??

I think if you have so much time to post on teh internet it speaks volumes about the amount of work you are doing.

Probably on fire right now

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Anybody who repeatedly calls me a thief is going to be in trouble in a face to face encounter. Simple as that.

I do believe I said you advocate the theft. But hey, if you and red need to resort to physical intimidation because you run out of substance - then so be it...

<- trembling

CsG