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[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Genx87
One question I do have is does SS have a law which doesnt allow it to deficit spend?

Not to my knowledge. And besides, laws change all the time anyway. Congress isn't done tinkering with SS. It'll have to revisit the issue sometime in the future.

Meaning in 2042 when it is nearly 1 trillion short they are required to lower benefits to match the projected shortfall?

They're not 'required' to do anything, but benefit cuts are likely.

Well that sucks ass then. If the thing was required to be balanced then my opinion on the matter would change as it would eventually implode itself and not take the rest of the country with it.

Just like the federal deficit and trade deficit are currently doing.....

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Genx87
One question I do have is does SS have a law which doesnt allow it to deficit spend?

Not to my knowledge. And besides, laws change all the time anyway. Congress isn't done tinkering with SS. It'll have to revisit the issue sometime in the future.

Meaning in 2042 when it is nearly 1 trillion short they are required to lower benefits to match the projected shortfall?

They're not 'required' to do anything, but benefit cuts are likely.

Well that sucks ass then. If the thing was required to be balanced then my opinion on the matter would change as it would eventually implode itself and not take the rest of the country with it.

Just like the federal deficit and trade deficit are currently doing.....

Way too bring up something that is completely irrelevant to the conversation of social security. You must be so proud of yourself.

/pat

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Sounds great and all but in reality this does not always work, and it is not some third world asian country.

I'm in the US, not Asia. And if it can work in some dirt-poor country, then it can certainly work here.

We take care of our own regardless if the family is wealthy.

:thumbsup: As it should be.

But then coming from your perspective the poor are better off dead I bet.

And how do you know I'm not poor or working class now? You don't even know me, yet you presume so much. I thought you were one of those hair-dyed, nose-pierced non-conformist types who didn't believe in judging others, especially based on limited information. Guess not.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Genx87
One question I do have is does SS have a law which doesnt allow it to deficit spend?

Not to my knowledge. And besides, laws change all the time anyway. Congress isn't done tinkering with SS. It'll have to revisit the issue sometime in the future.

Meaning in 2042 when it is nearly 1 trillion short they are required to lower benefits to match the projected shortfall?

They're not 'required' to do anything, but benefit cuts are likely.

Well that sucks ass then. If the thing was required to be balanced then my opinion on the matter would change as it would eventually implode itself and not take the rest of the country with it.

Just like the federal deficit and trade deficit are currently doing.....

Way too bring up something that is completely irrelevant to the conversation of social security. You must be so proud of yourself.

/pat

No, I think there is a point to what he says. If the gov't is allowed to spend money it isn't taking in - then what happens when SS starts sucking more and more money from the treasury. It's a recipe for gov't implosion. However mandating balanced budgets and true accounting would prevent that. It's part of the equation although it isn't a "fix"

CsG

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Genx87
One question I do have is does SS have a law which doesnt allow it to deficit spend?

Not to my knowledge. And besides, laws change all the time anyway. Congress isn't done tinkering with SS. It'll have to revisit the issue sometime in the future.

Meaning in 2042 when it is nearly 1 trillion short they are required to lower benefits to match the projected shortfall?

They're not 'required' to do anything, but benefit cuts are likely.

Well that sucks ass then. If the thing was required to be balanced then my opinion on the matter would change as it would eventually implode itself and not take the rest of the country with it.

Just like the federal deficit and trade deficit are currently doing.....

Way too bring up something that is completely irrelevant to the conversation of social security. You must be so proud of yourself.

/pat

No, I think there is a point to what he says. If the gov't is allowed to spend money it isn't taking in - then what happens when SS starts sucking more and more money from the treasury. It's a recipe for gov't implosion. However mandating balanced budgets and true accounting would prevent that. It's part of the equation although it isn't a "fix"

CsG

Yes but the implication I am sure he will spit back out is this is Bush's fault which it isnt. The system is broken, has been flawed since the start, and wont be fixed by ignoring it.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It's not stealing, it is showing respect and moving up from third world status.

Stealing from the working class to pay for what you and your family should be providing is "respect"? :roll:

CsG

LOL stealing eh? the government has powers you don't have, like taxing and redistributing look at your constitution you claim to respect.

As for the federal government's specific power to tax, it is found in Article I Section 8, where the Congress is given the right to "lay and collect taxes . . . to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States." The government provides a vast array of services and infrastructure such as roads, schools, the banking system, port facilities, air traffic control, hydroelectric dams, communications satellites, R&D into a vast array of technologies such as radar and semiconductors -- not to mention the most basic functions of establishing and vindicating your basic commercial rights in property and contracts. Is that all stealing??

In other words, your "hard earned money" wasn't earned in a vacuum. You aren't Robinson Crusoe -- as proven by the fact that you don't live like he did. The commercial enterprise where you work -- or that you own, as the case may be -- operates within a society that has a vast public infrastructure that someone has to pay for. But of course, that vast public infrastructure also creates vast opportunities such that the taxes you pay reap you tremendous returns. The proof of that is the fact that the twenty wealthiest nations on earth -- as measured by per capita GDP -- all have an extensive public sector. Every one of them.

"Minimalist government" countries, With no stealing, with low taxes and little public investment in infrastructure and government services, are impoverished cesspools -- except for a handful of wealthy elites.


The specific justification for our "safety net" is right there in black and white: Congress and the states have made a judgment that very substantial numbers of homeless, jobless, destitute and desperate people pose a potential threat of "domestic distubances" -- you know, food riots and such. Preventing such "domestic disturbance" is deemed to be a legitimate matter related to providing for both the "common defense and general welfare" of the United States. They may one day add health care to this list. Watch out!!!!

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Yeah, right. You have your own GREEDY interests. When I have someone REASONABLE to discuss this with, I'll sit down and discuss it. Until then I would reccomend that anyone reading this who is 50 or older join AARP and donate a little extra to help force the "radical right" to the bargining table.

Your dismissed.

You want greedy? How's this:
The first recipient of Social Security, Ida Mae Fuller, would surely have scoffed at arguments in favor of "privatization." She was a legal secretary from Vermont who retired in 1939 and began collecting benefits in January 1940 at age 65. She worked under the Social Security program for three years and paid of total of $24.75 in taxes during that time. Her monthly checks were $22.54 (there were no COLAs until 1975). She died in 1975 at the age of 100 and collected a total of $22,888.92 in benefits during her retirement years.

AARP state chapter site

You people paid in pennies on the dollar and claim you're only taking what 'you paid in'. Please. No wonder you don't want change - you want to finish emptying the piggy bank before anyone can stop you. And you call me greedy.

Greedy is exactly what you are. You bring up ancient history to try and justify your position. Well, guess what dumbass. Your ansectors benifited in exactly the same manner as Ide Mae Fuller, but you expect me to pay their bill also, don't you. LMAO, if brains were dynamite, you would have enough to blow your nose with.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

You advocate stealing from the working yet you claim I'm money oriented? SS is about money - and you want to take it from everyone else instead of doing what generation after generation has done - take care of their own family.

Good for you, I'm glad you take care of your parents - now if we could just work on your entitlement(to other people's earnings) attitude.

CsG

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

:laugh: Bingo! Hey Mr. "I'm not Greedy!!", how about cutting me a check?!?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Yeah, right. You have your own GREEDY interests. When I have someone REASONABLE to discuss this with, I'll sit down and discuss it. Until then I would reccomend that anyone reading this who is 50 or older join AARP and donate a little extra to help force the "radical right" to the bargining table.

Your dismissed.

You want greedy? How's this:
The first recipient of Social Security, Ida Mae Fuller, would surely have scoffed at arguments in favor of "privatization." She was a legal secretary from Vermont who retired in 1939 and began collecting benefits in January 1940 at age 65. She worked under the Social Security program for three years and paid of total of $24.75 in taxes during that time. Her monthly checks were $22.54 (there were no COLAs until 1975). She died in 1975 at the age of 100 and collected a total of $22,888.92 in benefits during her retirement years.

AARP state chapter site

You people paid in pennies on the dollar and claim you're only taking what 'you paid in'. Please. No wonder you don't want change - you want to finish emptying the piggy bank before anyone can stop you. And you call me greedy.

Greedy is exactly what you are. You bring up ancient history to try and justify your position. Well, guess what dumbass. Your ansectors benifited in exactly the same manner as Ide Mae Fuller, but you expect me to pay their bill also, don't you. LMAO, if brains were dynamite, you would have enough to blow your nose with.

Oh so because the previous generation raped the current one should be able to?

Why dont you do the right thing and have SS fixed instead of driving your kids into the dirt so you can collect you welfare payment.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Sounds great and all but in reality this does not always work, and it is not some third world asian country.

I'm in the US, not Asia. And if it can work in some dirt-poor country, then it can certainly work here.

We take care of our own regardless if the family is wealthy.

:thumbsup: As it should be.

But then coming from your perspective the poor are better off dead I bet.

And how do you know I'm not poor or working class now? You don't even know me, yet you presume so much. I thought you were one of those hair-dyed, nose-pierced non-conformist types who didn't believe in judging others, especially based on limited information. Guess not.

Judging by your view of helping out the elderly it is painfully obvious you are spoiled, either that or sheltered from the harsh realities of the world.

If you didn't have your ass covered somehow or another you wouldn't have this whacked out rightwing view like you are fed from a silver spoon.

Another whiney rightwing leech too wrapped up in his own world and money to look around, typical.

Ok here comes the part where you cry about being poor, save it.

Anyone with a head up his ass view like yours on strife and poverty has 0 credibility.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

...and there it is!

CsG

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

You advocate stealing from the working yet you claim I'm money oriented? SS is about money - and you want to take it from everyone else instead of doing what generation after generation has done - take care of their own family.

Good for you, I'm glad you take care of your parents - now if we could just work on your entitlement(to other people's earnings) attitude.

CsG

Hey dumbass, I'm working and paying SS. I'm self employed, so I'm paying double what you are and you preach to me about stealing. You are just talking out of your ass....as usual.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Yeah, right. You have your own GREEDY interests. When I have someone REASONABLE to discuss this with, I'll sit down and discuss it. Until then I would reccomend that anyone reading this who is 50 or older join AARP and donate a little extra to help force the "radical right" to the bargining table.

Your dismissed.

You want greedy? How's this:
The first recipient of Social Security, Ida Mae Fuller, would surely have scoffed at arguments in favor of "privatization." She was a legal secretary from Vermont who retired in 1939 and began collecting benefits in January 1940 at age 65. She worked under the Social Security program for three years and paid of total of $24.75 in taxes during that time. Her monthly checks were $22.54 (there were no COLAs until 1975). She died in 1975 at the age of 100 and collected a total of $22,888.92 in benefits during her retirement years.

AARP state chapter site

You people paid in pennies on the dollar and claim you're only taking what 'you paid in'. Please. No wonder you don't want change - you want to finish emptying the piggy bank before anyone can stop you. And you call me greedy.

Greedy is exactly what you are. You bring up ancient history to try and justify your position. Well, guess what dumbass. Your ansectors benifited in exactly the same manner as Ide Mae Fuller, but you expect me to pay their bill also, don't you. LMAO, if brains were dynamite, you would have enough to blow your nose with.

Oh so because the previous generation raped the current one should be able to?

Why dont you do the right thing and have SS fixed instead of driving your kids into the dirt so you can collect you welfare payment.

This really starting to get funny. You also expect me to pay for your ancestors SS. I've got a better idea, you pay for it and mine, LMAO!!!!!!!!

 

[Steeplerot]

Too bad these losers can't just secede now, but then once they realize the filth and backwardness they have doomed themselves too watch them begging for handouts, like usual.

And you know what? the real americans would probaly help them out without even a apology.

 

[Zebo]

I get it!! It's only "stealing" if so-called conservatives don't like where the tax money goes. Otherwise they never saw a prison build, gas chamber, weapon system or other spending used to hurt folks they did'nt like. It's only those tax and spend to help people that are "no good" and "stealing"

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Yeah, right. You have your own GREEDY interests. When I have someone REASONABLE to discuss this with, I'll sit down and discuss it. Until then I would reccomend that anyone reading this who is 50 or older join AARP and donate a little extra to help force the "radical right" to the bargining table.

Your dismissed.

You want greedy? How's this:
The first recipient of Social Security, Ida Mae Fuller, would surely have scoffed at arguments in favor of "privatization." She was a legal secretary from Vermont who retired in 1939 and began collecting benefits in January 1940 at age 65. She worked under the Social Security program for three years and paid of total of $24.75 in taxes during that time. Her monthly checks were $22.54 (there were no COLAs until 1975). She died in 1975 at the age of 100 and collected a total of $22,888.92 in benefits during her retirement years.

AARP state chapter site

You people paid in pennies on the dollar and claim you're only taking what 'you paid in'. Please. No wonder you don't want change - you want to finish emptying the piggy bank before anyone can stop you. And you call me greedy.

Greedy is exactly what you are. You bring up ancient history to try and justify your position. Well, guess what dumbass. Your ansectors benifited in exactly the same manner as Ide Mae Fuller, but you expect me to pay their bill also, don't you. LMAO, if brains were dynamite, you would have enough to blow your nose with.

Oh so because the previous generation raped the current one should be able to?

Why dont you do the right thing and have SS fixed instead of driving your kids into the dirt so you can collect you welfare payment.

This really starting to get funny. You also expect me to pay for your ancestors SS. I've got a better idea, you pay for it and mine, LMAO!!!!!!!!

Already paying yours ya leech. Since my ancestors are dead there isnt anything left to pay. However if they were still alive I would be paying for them as well.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

...and there it is!

CsG

Isn't that the standard, red neck answer. I thought yoyu would understand it????

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Sounds great and all but in reality this does not always work, and it is not some third world asian country.

I'm in the US, not Asia. And if it can work in some dirt-poor country, then it can certainly work here.

We take care of our own regardless if the family is wealthy.

:thumbsup: As it should be.

But then coming from your perspective the poor are better off dead I bet.

And how do you know I'm not poor or working class now? You don't even know me, yet you presume so much. I thought you were one of those hair-dyed, nose-pierced non-conformist types who didn't believe in judging others, especially based on limited information. Guess not.

Judging by your view of helping out the elderly it is painfully obvious you are spoiled, either that or sheltered from the harsh realities of the world.

If you didn't have your ass covered somehow or another you wouldn't have this whacked out rightwing view like you are fed from a silver spoon.

OK, so just because I don't think like you, I either grew up spoiled or sheltered? :roll: I've worked since before I hit the legal age to do so, and not at 'silver-spoon' jobs either - picking up trash, cleaning dishes, repairing bikes, cutting lawns, delivering car parts, etc. I've had up to three jobs at once (while taking a full-time college load), and I still put in OT now. Don't give me that 'sheltered' BS. Your world view is so very, very narrow.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Your granparents may be dead but mine are not, and they already are suffering with medicaid cuts.

So buy 'em some $#%@ pills. If you don't care enough to take care of them, why should I?

Bingo. The reason for "why" to him is that he's greedy and wants to take from everyone else instead helping his own family.

CsG

You both are insane, aren't you. I always knew you were asshats, but I never realized until now the depth of your sickness. I want to take from everyone else, huh. That's absoutley ridiculous. Your just money orientated, materialisitc, sickos. To hell with everything and everbody else.

The really sick part is that you have yourselves convinced you have the moral right to call me a thief. To infer that I don't care about or take care of my parents is just incredulous. My parents are 85 years old, and trust me, they need a lot of attention. You shouldn't talk about things of which you know nothing about. Your talk is as cheap as it gets.

If you arent money oriented then dont take the SS\welfare payment.

If you don't like it here, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

What an original reply, now are you going to stop taking the welfare check? Or are you money oriented and not above the rest of us?

If you weren't such a reactionary, you would have read the thread and noticed that I don't get SS. I also pay self employment tax, which is double what most people are paying.

You will be getting it short enough from what I can tell. You pay double because you own your own business. That isnt rocket science buddy and if you dont like it then fold the business and work for somebody else.