Bush drops to new low in Poll's

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

I agree and my point is are we going to have a thread every week a new poll comes out?
Talking about Bush's low opinion numbers means squat since he won the election and wont be running again.

I guess the part about the congressional numbers don't mean dip either?

You fanboys crack me up. People deserve what they got. If the bastage sinks us, then so be it.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

I agree and my point is are we going to have a thread every week a new poll comes out?
Talking about Bush's low opinion numbers means squat since he won the election and wont be running again.

It's a way to support reasoning that people are not happy with the direction of the country. A state of affairs if you will. I see Kerry IQ threads and stuff...how that is relevant, I have no idea.

A poll a week is excessive as people are not thinking about these things that often. Maybe one thread with public opinion polls?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

I agree and my point is are we going to have a thread every week a new poll comes out?
Talking about Bush's low opinion numbers means squat since he won the election and wont be running again.

It's a way to support reasoning that people are not happy with the direction of the country. A state of affairs if you will. I see Kerry IQ threads and stuff...how that is relevant, I have no idea.

A poll a week is excessive as people are not thinking about these things that often. Maybe one thread with public opinion polls?

I searched for Conjur's thread but didn't see it. Maybe I used the wrong search words such as "poll"?

Besides, it's politican AND news, so it was posted.

Comments on other threads (not you stunt)

Oh, and on the hyprocritcal remark (a page or two ago), I never said that I wouldn't be doing the same if the polls were reversed. I can't stand the bastard in the White House and never will. He had my support right after 9/11, but Iraq and the lie threw it away. Nobody on this green earth will change my opinion of that, period. Thanks for playing though.

Oh, and a for the Captain ovious remark.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

I agree and my point is are we going to have a thread every week a new poll comes out?
Talking about Bush's low opinion numbers means squat since he won the election and wont be running again.

the poll numbers tell you if he is doing a good job or a bad job, and what sortof a leader doesnt listen to his people?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

In other words, "WAAAA! WAAAAA! Reality's picking on me! WAAAAAA!". I understand why you avoid it.

:roll:

:roll: Get a clue and try reading for once. The media clearly creates "news" with these sorts of polls -no? If not - then who is creating the poll news?
If the media wants a certain outcome - would they not pick a sample that reflects that? Would they also not ask questions they want to use to create a better "story"?

Wake up bowfinger - your hate has lulled you into an irrational sleep.

CsG

"WAAAAAAAAA! I'll get you, Reality, and your little dog too! WAAAAAAA!" Get help.

One by one, Americans are snapping out of their trance. Bush's flock is dwindling, his so-called "political capital" evaporating. Those are the facts. Deal with it.

Woot - avoid the question - your specialty.

"The media clearly creates "news" with these sorts of polls -no? If not - then who is creating the poll news?"

CsG

Edit to fix your formatting

Yes it creates the news as surly as it creates the polls. Though both were somones idea, meaning someone wanted to do a poll and put it on tv, does that make the poll wrong?

Nope, I didn't say that.

CsG

No you didnt but you are infuring that it is wrong or bias. Read the post with the questions on it.
On another note all you lefties shouls give CAD some credit. Though you do think his posts are wrong, He is keeping up with posts, or a good amount of them. Props for sticking up for what you believe.
Though i do know what your talking about, in this case i think the lefties are right. Polls are going down. Nuff said.

I have never made the claim that the polls aren't going down See, that's the problem - people are imagining claims that I've never made and are trying to trash me for them.

*shrug* I'm used to that though - I've been here a while

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Engineer
And your degree in "statistics" qualifies you to state that this is a fair poll or not?

I think several around here have a few degrees...

BS - Bushshit

MS - More of the same

PHd - Piled higer and deeper

You don't care whether the poll is right or not. The numbers didn't go your and Bush's way and you don't like it - PERIOD!

I sure hope you weren't addressing me with this post because your assumptions are false.

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

The questions there are very easy to read there, shouldnt take more than a few seconds, hell I have read them and have wasted far more time replying and reading this thread than it took me to find the questions and read them. So I'll give you what.. 10 minutes from now to read the questions and give a propper answer, I think the forum demands that after 3-4 hours since this thread was posted.

Again, I'll decide how much time I will take to analyze the numbers and samples - not you.

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Ah yes, another media poll to have a story. :roll:

If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much. Bad samples and even worse questions.

But hey- you Bush haters can lap up the "news" created by these "news" organizations if it helps you sleep...

CsG

Ah, did I strike a nerve?

Here's a from a severe Bush hater for you to enjoy. Have fun!

Nope - just calling them like I see them. Seems I hit the nail right on the head though from what I'm seeing...

CsG

Yea, like you see them in that distorted and confused mind... or whatever is left of it...

TaB

Seeing them from reality. ie: not blinded by hatred.
Try some critical thinking for once instead of just lapping up the story the media wants to tell.

CsG

So instead of believing the bad news, you choose to beleive what? From where are you cross checking these facts?
Reading the bull sh!t off your toilet paper agian?
This is what im talking about.

They aren't "facts" -they are polls. Which means opinions. IF the sample is within reason and the questions are clear and aren't leading then the poll's results should be taken for what they are - opinions. If people don't like Bush - fine - I have never said everyone should like Bush. It also is irrelevant due to Bush not having to be re-elected. He can and will lead without "polls" to tell him which way to go like some politicians need.

CsG

Granted, but then whats your point?

The point is that the attack on my motives is untrue. Those on the left seem to think I don't like the poll because if what they think it says. However, I am suggesting that we should look deeper than the little headlines that the media feeds.

CsG

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

I agree and my point is are we going to have a thread every week a new poll comes out?
Talking about Bush's low opinion numbers means squat since he won the election and wont be running again.

It's a way to support reasoning that people are not happy with the direction of the country. A state of affairs if you will. I see Kerry IQ threads and stuff...how that is relevant, I have no idea.

A poll a week is excessive as people are not thinking about these things that often. Maybe one thread with public opinion polls?

I searched for Conjur's thread but didn't see it. Maybe I used the wrong search words such as "poll"?

Besides, it's politican AND news, so it was posted.

Comments on other threads (not you stunt)

Oh, and on the hyprocritcal remark (a page or two ago), I never said that I wouldn't be doing the same if the polls were reversed. I can't stand the bastard in the White House and never will. He had my support right after 9/11, but Iraq and the lie threw it away. Nobody on this green earth will change my opinion of that, period. Thanks for playing though.

Oh, and a for the Captain ovious remark.

It wasnt a attack im just saying lets stick to things that we can debate please.
By the way, thanks for the cookie!

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Ah yes, another media poll to have a story. :roll:

If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much. Bad samples and even worse questions.

But hey- you Bush haters can lap up the "news" created by these "news" organizations if it helps you sleep...

CsG

Ah, did I strike a nerve?

Here's a from a severe Bush hater for you to enjoy. Have fun!

Nope - just calling them like I see them. Seems I hit the nail right on the head though from what I'm seeing...

CsG

Yea, like you see them in that distorted and confused mind... or whatever is left of it...

TaB

Seeing them from reality. ie: not blinded by hatred.
Try some critical thinking for once instead of just lapping up the story the media wants to tell.

CsG

So instead of believing the bad news, you choose to beleive what? From where are you cross checking these facts?
Reading the bull sh!t off your toilet paper agian?
This is what im talking about.

They aren't "facts" -they are polls. Which means opinions. IF the sample is within reason and the questions are clear and aren't leading then the poll's results should be taken for what they are - opinions. If people don't like Bush - fine - I have never said everyone should like Bush. It also is irrelevant due to Bush not having to be re-elected. He can and will lead without "polls" to tell him which way to go like some politicians need.

CsG

Granted, but then whats your point?

The point is that the attack on my motives is untrue. Those on the left seem to think I don't like the poll because if what they think it says. However, I am suggesting that we should look deeper than the little headlines that the media feeds.

CsG

Did everyone read this? Yes? Good now STFU and stop attacking him for stupid reasons.

EDIT: Things we can debate perhaps?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

I agree and my point is are we going to have a thread every week a new poll comes out?
Talking about Bush's low opinion numbers means squat since he won the election and wont be running again.

I guess the part about the congressional numbers don't mean dip either?

You fanboys crack me up. People deserve what they got. If the bastage sinks us, then so be it.

I really dont think people are going to care about Bush's opinion when it comes to electing congressional members in 06 because th dems are completely ineffective.

Maybe if the Dems figure it out they can make a dent but right now Dean is succeeding in driving away moderates.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

The questions there are very easy to read there, shouldnt take more than a few seconds, hell I have read them and have wasted far more time replying and reading this thread than it took me to find the questions and read them. So I'll give you what.. 10 minutes from now to read the questions and give a propper answer, I think the forum demands that after 3-4 hours since this thread was posted.

Again, I'll decide how much time I will take to analyze the numbers and samples - not you.

CsG

I'm just trying to help you try to get your point across, but you didnt seem to have any point so why all the trolling?

 

[Last Rezort]

I think your pretty much right on. The far left will bitch about anything but theres not much they can do. Moderates will sit back and look on as it makes very little diffrence. As long as he does not appoint any extreemists, there should be no problem.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Engineer
I searched for Conjur's thread but didn't see it. Maybe I used the wrong search words such as "poll"?

Besides, it's politican AND news, so it was posted.

Comments on other threads (not you stunt)

Oh, and on the hyprocritcal remark (a page or two ago), I never said that I wouldn't be doing the same if the polls were reversed. I can't stand the bastard in the White House and never will. He had my support right after 9/11, but Iraq and the lie threw it away. Nobody on this green earth will change my opinion of that, period. Thanks for playing though.

Oh, and a for the Captain ovious remark.

You are giving me a cookie?!
After I defended the reasoning to post polls like this...

Screw you

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Engineer
I searched for Conjur's thread but didn't see it. Maybe I used the wrong search words such as "poll"?

Besides, it's politican AND news, so it was posted.

Comments on other threads (not you stunt)

Oh, and on the hyprocritcal remark (a page or two ago), I never said that I wouldn't be doing the same if the polls were reversed. I can't stand the bastard in the White House and never will. He had my support right after 9/11, but Iraq and the lie threw it away. Nobody on this green earth will change my opinion of that, period. Thanks for playing though.

Oh, and a for the Captain ovious remark.

You are giving me a cookie?!
After I defended the reasoning to post polls like this...

Screw you

Notice the BOLD part above.

I made general comments about two other threads without quoting them. Sorry!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

The questions there are very easy to read there, shouldnt take more than a few seconds, hell I have read them and have wasted far more time replying and reading this thread than it took me to find the questions and read them. So I'll give you what.. 10 minutes from now to read the questions and give a propper answer, I think the forum demands that after 3-4 hours since this thread was posted.

Again, I'll decide how much time I will take to analyze the numbers and samples - not you.

CsG

I'm just trying to help you try to get your point across, but you didnt seem to have any point so why all the trolling?

My point wasn't wasn't a claim of invalidity(or validity) - my statement was that it shouldn't just be lapped up. I'll look at this poll when I have time to sit and analyze it. I'm not going to do that while still here at work.

CsG

 

[JulesMaximus]

Confirmed, the Bush administration and the legislature is at its lowest approval rating with this registered republican. I might vote Democrat next election if they keep pushing this ultra conservative bull sh!t agenda. I think Bush is really a Federalist, not a Republican.

 

[Stunt]

Any small government conservative supporting the current state of affairs in the US should give their head a shake. Considering the fastest growing sector in the US is public (government) sector, during an economic boom...you really have to wonder what the Republicans are right now.

 

[ntdz]

In other news, Kerry isn't the subject of polling anymore since he LOST in the biggest poll of them all to Bush.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Engineer
I searched for Conjur's thread but didn't see it. Maybe I used the wrong search words such as "poll"?

Besides, it's politican AND news, so it was posted.

Comments on other threads (not you stunt)

Oh, and on the hyprocritcal remark (a page or two ago), I never said that I wouldn't be doing the same if the polls were reversed. I can't stand the bastard in the White House and never will. He had my support right after 9/11, but Iraq and the lie threw it away. Nobody on this green earth will change my opinion of that, period. Thanks for playing though.

Oh, and a for the Captain ovious remark.

You are giving me a cookie?!
After I defended the reasoning to post polls like this...

Screw you

No the cookie is for me!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: ntdz
In other news, Kerry isn't the subject of polling anymore since he LOST in the biggest poll of them all to Bush.

I have covered your post in the OP this morning. Start your own thread if you want to talk about Kerry. We're talking about POLLING numbers and approval of the Shrub, thank you very little.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort
No the cookie is for me!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I realize that, now. How is it

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

The questions there are very easy to read there, shouldnt take more than a few seconds, hell I have read them and have wasted far more time replying and reading this thread than it took me to find the questions and read them. So I'll give you what.. 10 minutes from now to read the questions and give a propper answer, I think the forum demands that after 3-4 hours since this thread was posted.

Again, I'll decide how much time I will take to analyze the numbers and samples - not you.

CsG

I'm just trying to help you try to get your point across, but you didnt seem to have any point so why all the trolling?

My point wasn't wasn't a claim of invalidity(or validity) - my statement was that it shouldn't just be lapped up. I'll look at this poll when I have time to sit and analyze it. I'm not going to do that while still here at work.

CsG

but why troll?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

The questions there are very easy to read there, shouldnt take more than a few seconds, hell I have read them and have wasted far more time replying and reading this thread than it took me to find the questions and read them. So I'll give you what.. 10 minutes from now to read the questions and give a propper answer, I think the forum demands that after 3-4 hours since this thread was posted.

Again, I'll decide how much time I will take to analyze the numbers and samples - not you.

CsG

I'm just trying to help you try to get your point across, but you didnt seem to have any point so why all the trolling?

My point wasn't wasn't a claim of invalidity(or validity) - my statement was that it shouldn't just be lapped up. I'll look at this poll when I have time to sit and analyze it. I'm not going to do that while still here at work.

CsG

but why troll?

I'm not. Having to defend myself against ignorant/obtuse attacks is not trolling.

CsG

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

The questions there are very easy to read there, shouldnt take more than a few seconds, hell I have read them and have wasted far more time replying and reading this thread than it took me to find the questions and read them. So I'll give you what.. 10 minutes from now to read the questions and give a propper answer, I think the forum demands that after 3-4 hours since this thread was posted.

Again, I'll decide how much time I will take to analyze the numbers and samples - not you.

CsG

I'm just trying to help you try to get your point across, but you didnt seem to have any point so why all the trolling?

My point wasn't wasn't a claim of invalidity(or validity) - my statement was that it shouldn't just be lapped up. I'll look at this poll when I have time to sit and analyze it. I'm not going to do that while still here at work.

CsG

but why troll?

I'm not. Having to defend myself against ignorant/obtuse attacks is not trolling.

CsG

Defend yourself?

"But hey- you Bush haters can lap up the "news" created by these "news" organizations if it helps you sleep... "