Bush drops to new low in Poll's

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

In other words, "WAAAA! WAAAAA! Reality's picking on me! WAAAAAA!". I understand why you avoid it.

:roll:

:roll: Get a clue and try reading for once. The media clearly creates "news" with these sorts of polls -no? If not - then who is creating the poll news?
If the media wants a certain outcome - would they not pick a sample that reflects that? Would they also not ask questions they want to use to create a better "story"?

Wake up bowfinger - your hate has lulled you into an irrational sleep.

CsG

"WAAAAAAAAA! I'll get you, Reality, and your little dog too! WAAAAAAA!" Get help.

One by one, Americans are snapping out of their trance. Bush's flock is dwindling, his so-called "political capital" evaporating. Those are the facts. Deal with it.

Woot - avoid the question - your specialty.

"The media clearly creates "news" with these sorts of polls -no? If not - then who is creating the poll news?"

CsG

Edit to fix your formatting

Yes it creates the news as surly as it creates the polls. Though both were somones idea, meaning someone wanted to do a poll and put it on tv, does that make the poll wrong?

Nope, I didn't say that.

CsG

 

[Stunt]

CAD's mom: "CAD!!, if you keep rolling your eyes, they'll stay like that" :laugh:

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I did not claim it was not "valid". That's where you and the others are arguing against something that doesn't exist.
Asking for demographics and actual poll questions is not claiming that they aren't valid. But hey - twist away! :roll:

CsG

You are totaly discretiding its vality by calling it a media created story. That without knowing anything about how the poll was conducted, yet now, you know the questions that were asked. Tell me, lets start from the beginning, is it a valid poll?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Ah yes, another media poll to have a story. :roll:

If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much. Bad samples and even worse questions.

But hey- you Bush haters can lap up the "news" created by these "news" organizations if it helps you sleep...

CsG

Ah, did I strike a nerve?

Here's a from a severe Bush hater for you to enjoy. Have fun!

Nope - just calling them like I see them. Seems I hit the nail right on the head though from what I'm seeing...

CsG

Yea, like you see them in that distorted and confused mind... or whatever is left of it...

TaB

Seeing them from reality. ie: not blinded by hatred.
Try some critical thinking for once instead of just lapping up the story the media wants to tell.

CsG

So instead of believing the bad news, you choose to beleive what? From where are you cross checking these facts?
Reading the bull sh!t off your toilet paper agian?
This is what im talking about.

They aren't "facts" -they are polls. Which means opinions. IF the sample is within reason and the questions are clear and aren't leading then the poll's results should be taken for what they are - opinions. If people don't like Bush - fine - I have never said everyone should like Bush. It also is irrelevant due to Bush not having to be re-elected. He can and will lead without "polls" to tell him which way to go like some politicians need.

CsG

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Stunt
CAD's mom: "CAD!!, if you keep rolling your eyes, they'll stay like that" :laugh:

That made me laugh

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I did not claim it was not "valid". That's where you and the others are arguing against something that doesn't exist.
Asking for demographics and actual poll questions is not claiming that they aren't valid. But hey - twist away! :roll:

CsG

You are totaly discretiding its vality by calling it a media created story. That without knowing anything about how the poll was conducted, yet now, you know the questions that were asked. Tell me, lets start from the beginning, is it a valid poll?

HELLO!!! Have you not read a word I've posted? I said "If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much."

Without having had the time to read and fully analyse the poll's numbers(instead of the story sound bites) - one can't make claims for or against it - which I have not done but some of you have.

From the beginning - "If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much."

CsG

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I did not claim it was not "valid". That's where you and the others are arguing against something that doesn't exist.
Asking for demographics and actual poll questions is not claiming that they aren't valid. But hey - twist away! :roll:

CsG

You are totaly discretiding its vality by calling it a media created story. That without knowing anything about how the poll was conducted, yet now, you know the questions that were asked. Tell me, lets start from the beginning, is it a valid poll?

HELLO!!! Have you not read a word I've posted? I said "If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much."

Without having had the time to read and fully analyse the poll's numbers(instead of the story sound bites) - one can't make claims against it - which I have not done.

From the beginning - "If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much."

CsG

yes that is what you said before you knew the questions since you doubted the questions being neutral enough, now that you know the questions, is it valid?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Seeing them from reality. ie: not blinded by hatred.
Try some critical thinking for once instead of just lapping up the story the media wants to tell.

CsG

Wow, what an insightfull reply. It must have taking some use of that amazing device thats in your head.

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: BBond

Bush sux.

:thumbsup:

Yep, deeply thought and insightful replies abound in here, eh?

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Seeing them from reality. ie: not blinded by hatred.
Try some critical thinking for once instead of just lapping up the story the media wants to tell.

CsG

Wow, what an insightfull reply. It must have taking some use of that amazing device thats in your head.

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: BBond

Bush sux.

:thumbsup:

Yep, deeply thought and insightful replies abound in here, eh?

Your sarcasm detection meter is broken

 

[Stunt]

So you were being sarcastic about Bush sucking?...wierd way of pushing that...

 

[Engineer]

Like I said in the first post, the Bush worshippers would state that these polls don't count. I'm sure that if the poll numbers would have been reversed, their opinions would have changed. They'll deny this, but we all know that is the fact....

Bush and crew are falling like a rock. Probably time for a new terror alert or some other Bushshit idea to fear the people back in line.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Stunt
So you were being sarcastic about Bush sucking?...wierd way of pushing that...

Well, more of the first one...

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I did not claim it was not "valid". That's where you and the others are arguing against something that doesn't exist.
Asking for demographics and actual poll questions is not claiming that they aren't valid. But hey - twist away! :roll:

CsG

You are totaly discretiding its vality by calling it a media created story. That without knowing anything about how the poll was conducted, yet now, you know the questions that were asked. Tell me, lets start from the beginning, is it a valid poll?

HELLO!!! Have you not read a word I've posted? I said "If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much."

Without having had the time to read and fully analyse the poll's numbers(instead of the story sound bites) - one can't make claims against it - which I have not done.

From the beginning - "If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much."

CsG

yes that is what you said before you knew the questions since you doubted the questions being neutral enough, now that you know the questions, is it valid?

"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

 

[Engineer]

And your degree in "statistics" qualifies you to state that this is a fair poll or not?

I think several around here have a few degrees...

BS - Bushshit

MS - More of the same

PHd - Piled higer and deeper

You don't care whether the poll is right or not. The numbers didn't go your and Bush's way and you don't like it - PERIOD!

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

In other words, "WAAAA! WAAAAA! Reality's picking on me! WAAAAAA!". I understand why you avoid it.

:roll:

:roll: Get a clue and try reading for once. The media clearly creates "news" with these sorts of polls -no? If not - then who is creating the poll news?
If the media wants a certain outcome - would they not pick a sample that reflects that? Would they also not ask questions they want to use to create a better "story"?

Wake up bowfinger - your hate has lulled you into an irrational sleep.

CsG

"WAAAAAAAAA! I'll get you, Reality, and your little dog too! WAAAAAAA!" Get help.

One by one, Americans are snapping out of their trance. Bush's flock is dwindling, his so-called "political capital" evaporating. Those are the facts. Deal with it.

Woot - avoid the question - your specialty.

"The media clearly creates "news" with these sorts of polls -no? If not - then who is creating the poll news?"

CsG

Edit to fix your formatting

Yes it creates the news as surly as it creates the polls. Though both were somones idea, meaning someone wanted to do a poll and put it on tv, does that make the poll wrong?

Nope, I didn't say that.

CsG

No you didnt but you are infuring that it is wrong or bias. Read the post with the questions on it.
On another note all you lefties shouls give CAD some credit. Though you do think his posts are wrong, He is keeping up with posts, or a good amount of them. Props for sticking up for what you believe.
Though i do know what your talking about, in this case i think the lefties are right. Polls are going down. Nuff said.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
"time to read and fully analyze the poll's numbers"

sample and questions take more than a glance to Analise. When I have time - I'll read them. Until then - I am not going to claim they are valid or invalid which I have yet to do while others here just assume and lap it up.

CsG

The questions there are very easy to read there, shouldnt take more than a few seconds, hell I have read them and have wasted far more time replying and reading this thread than it took me to find the questions and read them. So I'll give you what.. 10 minutes from now to read the questions and give a propper answer, I think the forum demands that after 3-4 hours since this thread was posted.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Ah yes, another media poll to have a story. :roll:

If this poll is anything like the Washington Post-ABC News poll a couple days ago it doesn't mean much. Bad samples and even worse questions.

But hey- you Bush haters can lap up the "news" created by these "news" organizations if it helps you sleep...

CsG

Ah, did I strike a nerve?

Here's a from a severe Bush hater for you to enjoy. Have fun!

Nope - just calling them like I see them. Seems I hit the nail right on the head though from what I'm seeing...

CsG

Yea, like you see them in that distorted and confused mind... or whatever is left of it...

TaB

Seeing them from reality. ie: not blinded by hatred.
Try some critical thinking for once instead of just lapping up the story the media wants to tell.

CsG

So instead of believing the bad news, you choose to beleive what? From where are you cross checking these facts?
Reading the bull sh!t off your toilet paper agian?
This is what im talking about.

They aren't "facts" -they are polls. Which means opinions. IF the sample is within reason and the questions are clear and aren't leading then the poll's results should be taken for what they are - opinions. If people don't like Bush - fine - I have never said everyone should like Bush. It also is irrelevant due to Bush not having to be re-elected. He can and will lead without "polls" to tell him which way to go like some politicians need.

CsG

Granted, but then whats your point?

 

[Genx87]

Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Like I said in the first post, the Bush worshippers would state that these polls don't count. I'm sure that if the poll numbers would have been reversed, their opinions would have changed. They'll deny this, but we all know that is the fact....

Bush and crew are falling like a rock. Probably time for a new terror alert or some other Bushshit idea to fear the people back in line.

Just as you would do the same. I dont agree with cad, but now your making acusations that are both obvious and hypocritical.

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Engineer
And your degree in "statistics" qualifies you to state that this is a fair poll or not?

I think several around here have a few degrees...

BS - Bushshit

MS - More of the same

PHd - Piled higer and deeper

You don't care whether the poll is right or not. The numbers didn't go your and Bush's way and you don't like it - PERIOD!

Thank you for that. I dont think any of us realized. But good job captian obvious.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Our government officials in Canada are polling very low as well. I think people are getting sick of the partisanship in governments...time to start building bridges people...49% of the electoral cannot be considered completely wrong.

I thought they were considered traitors?

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Stunt
Our government officials in Canada are polling very low as well. I think people are getting sick of the partisanship in governments...time to start building bridges people...49% of the electoral cannot be considered completely wrong.

I thought they were considered traitors?

Who are traitors?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: Genx87
Here is a hint,

this isnt Nov 2004, it is June 2005.

You lost, get over it, opinion polls dont mean squat for him anymore.

I disagree. If he was elected to serve the people and the people aren't happy...this is a very important issue. That being said, there's nothing to do about it, if the people pick him, they have every right to b!tch him out, at the same time live with the consequences, of course there is only one poll that counted.

I agree and my point is are we going to have a thread every week a new poll comes out?
Talking about Bush's low opinion numbers means squat since he won the election and wont be running again.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Topic Title: Bush drops to new low in Poll's

Yeah for the Republican's God


I get a kick out of the Talk show heads like Savage, Boortz, Baker complkaining about Bush now when they were rabid to re-elect him.

At least the Republicans in here stick by his side every step of the way as they jump off the bridge for him that he sold them.