Breaking: SCOTUS strikes down Texas abortion restriction

[JD50]

It became a subject of discussion. Liberals are saying they shouldn't feel shame or be shamed for killing their unborn babies. Well, should they feel pride?

They shouldn't feel anything. How they actually do feel is their business. If someone is upset about having an abortion that's fine, but it shouldn't be because other people are shaming them.

 

[dawp]

Yeah, it would have been so much better if all those kids were dead via abortion instead. So much better, and I'm sure they'd agree.

In the 1980s condoms and the pill, although prohibitively expensive, began to become available in Romania – so they were banned altogether.

Do you use birth control?

With the ban in effect it was difficult for them to get. There wouldn't have been near as many abortions as you imply if BC was available and affordable.

The government wanted as many kids as possible and damn the consequences.

Besides, it's not your place to decide if someone gets an abortion. don't like it? Fine don't get one.

 

[jackstar7]

Besides, it's not your place to decide if someone gets an abortion. don't like it? Fine don't get one.

They are advocating for the fetuses.

And they also seem comfortable with the responsibility of then questioning women who suffer miscarriages to make certain they didn't "fall down some stairs" or "drink too much" on purpose and have secret abortions.

These women must be policed.

 

[dawp]

They are advocating for the fetuses.

And they also seem comfortable with the responsibility of then questioning women who suffer miscarriages to make certain they didn't "fall down some stairs" or "drink too much" on purpose and have secret abortions.

These women must be policed.

are they willing to support an unwanted child for 18+ years?

I rarely see these so called pro-life actually be pro-life.

 

[jackstar7]

are they willing to support an unwanted child for 18+ years?

I rarely see these so called pro-life actually be pro-life.

WHOA. Whoa there.

This is only about protecting fetuses from being "murdered".

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Biology is so mysogynist.

This has nothing to do with biology, cocksplat.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

They do have sexual agency equal to men.

Not if you had your druthers.

Do you think that I would let men who father the aborted fetuses off the hook for abortion shaming?

Nobody fathers an aborted fetus, genius. What would you "shame" them for? They don't have any say in the matter. You're a fucking joke.

And plus since men have ZERO SAY on whether women get an abortion or not it's kinda funny you're asking for equality in a situation that has no equality whatsoever.

Dude, go to college or at least read a book or something. The reason why men get no say is the same reason that the state has no say: her body is her own. It completely validates my claim that you think men should have some right to overrule a woman's self-determination. How the fuck do you look yourself in the mirror every day?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Further dehumanization! Sounds like the things people who killed aboriginals said.

Nothing I have said is false, and nothing you have said has refuted me.

Are fetuses human beings in the USA, numbnuts?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I'm pretty sure that driving to Planned Parenthood and paying $700 to lay on a table and vacuum extract your uterus falls into the category of deliberate.

And really folks, you think this is about saying sex itself is irresponsible? This isn't the freaking Middle Ages, if you don't want to become pregnant there's a huge array of means to do so from abstinence to birth control of various flavors all the way up to sterilization. Have all the sex you want because no one cares, just don't be so fucking irresponsible about it that you need to kill to fix your irresponsibility.

What's irresponsible about it?

 

[MrPickins]

This isn't the freaking Middle Ages, if you don't want to become pregnant there's a huge array of means to do so from abstinence to birth control of various flavors all the way up to sterilization. Have all the sex you want because no one cares, just don't be so fucking irresponsible about it that you need to kill to fix your irresponsibility.

You realize that contraception isn't 100% effective right? I know you do, because you've been informed of this fact many times here in P&N.

Additionally, even getting your "tubes tied" can fail.

Even if we're talking 99% success rate (most forms of contraception are lower than this), that's still 1 out of a hundred times that the little swimmers are gonna make it through.

Multiply that by the number of times per day that people have sex nationwide, and we're talking a lot of failures.

 

[buckshot24]

How do you know if it was deliberate? Your misunderstanding is why I asked the question that I did.

Abortions are deliberate actions. They don't happen by accident. Miscarriages have absolutely nothing to do with this and is a red herring.

But again, we come back to how you determine if an action was deliberate or not.

Abortions are unequivocally deliberate actions.

I'm not going to follow your smelly fish around. Abortions are not accidents or naturally occurring incidents.

 

[buckshot24]

are they willing to support an unwanted child for 18+ years?

I rarely see these so called pro-life actually be pro-life.

Unless you are willing to care for everybody who you think deserves legal protection this rings hollow.

 

[buckshot24]

This has nothing to do with biology, xxxx.

Yes it does.

 

[buckshot24]

Nothing I have said is false, and nothing you have said has refuted me.

Are fetuses human beings in the USA, xxxxxx?

You are continuing your campaign of dehumanization so you can continue your barbaric crusade to celebrate the murder of human beings.

 

[Paratus]

Abortions are deliberate actions. They don't happen by accident. Miscarriages have absolutely nothing to do with this and is a red herring.

Abortions are unequivocally deliberate actions.

I'm not going to follow your smelly fish around. Abortions are not accidents or naturally occurring incidents.

Getting pregnant to have a child is not an accident either. Since you know the risks to the fertilized egg you by definition are fine with any natural abortion of a fetus , oops excuse me "baby" that occurs while trying to have a child. And because its something you want you are fine with as many dead "babies" as it takes so you can have a child.

So own it big man. By your own beliefs you are responsible for all those dead babies you made when trying to have kids, assuming those kids you mentioned picking up in another thread are yours.

 

[dawp]

Unless you are willing to care for everybody who you think deserves legal protection this rings hollow.

I already do with my taxes. ever hear of a public defender?

 

[buckshot24]

Getting pregnant to have a child is not an accident either. Since you know the risks to the fertilized egg you by definition are fine with any natural abortion of a fetus , oops excuse me "baby" that occurs while trying to have a child. And because its something you want you are fine with as many dead "babies" as it takes so you can have a child.

So own it big man. By your own beliefs you are responsible for all those dead babies you made when trying to have kids, assuming those kids you mentioned picking up in another thread are yours.

Its funny watching the depth of inanity you need to descend to because of the bankruptcy of your position.

 

[buckshot24]

I already do with my taxes. ever hear of a public defender?

Public defenders? Seriously? They don't "care" for anybody.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

You are continuing your campaign of dehumanization so you can continue your barbaric crusade to celebrate the murder of human beings.

That's just a string of outright lies.

Nothing like good ol' Christian morality to prove how shitty religion makes people.

 

[buckshot24]

That's just a string of outright lies.

Nothing like good ol' Christian morality to prove how shitty religion makes people.

I guess we're supposed to take your word for it. Oh well. I wouldn't trust you to clean my toilets.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Yes it does.

Gainsaying. That's about as close to meaninglessness as one can get.

 

[buckshot24]

Gainsaying. That's about as close to meaninglessness as one can get.

Women have babies, that isn't men's fault. Biology.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I guess we're supposed to take your word for it. Oh well. I wouldn't trust you to clean my toilets.

No, nobody has to wonder in the slightest. They are free to investigate for themselves whether or not fetuses are human beings in the United States. Do you know the answer to that question, you utterly dishonest troglodyte?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Women have babies, that isn't men's fault. Biology.

That isn't material to my point. If you were interested in a good faith discussion instead of total derailment and irrelevance, you'd have gathered that.

But, as we could all easily suppose, your actions are as poorly informed as your beliefs.

 

[buckshot24]

No, nobody has to wonder in the slightest. They are free to investigate for themselves whether or not fetuses are human beings in ghee United States. Do you know the answer to that question, you utterly dishonest troglodyte?

Tough guy, where have I said anything about what the US considers anything to be? No where. I don't have a black robe on and I couldn't care less what a court who said Jim Crow laws were just wonderful considers human beings to be. What you're doing is dehumanizing what everybody knows are people so you can murder them.