Boehner being reported as resigning.

[CitizenKain]

Hence his apparent resignation. Hopefully, his replacement can be much more effective.

But his replacement pretty much won't be. The hardline tea partiers won't back anyone that isn't as stupid as they are, anyone who they will back will be ignored by everyone else.

 

[Brainonska511]

Obama has never been sent a Budget to veto before.
Much as you pretend, this would be the first time he has killed it.

The budget doesn't matter at all. It's just a piece of paper to wave around at your opponents. The bills that matter and actually authorize the expenditure of money are the appropriations bills. The budget is political theatre.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Who will lead these open items?
- lawsuit (and hopefully imprisonment) of the President
- follow up to undo the deal with Iran (and hopefully imprisonment of the President)
- ACA reversal (and hopefully imprisonment of the President)
- PP being shut for ever and ever (and hopefully imprisonment of the President)
- bully the Smithsonian for displaying art Christians do not approve of (and,.. hey, why not; hopefully imprisonment of the President)

 

[Jaskalas]

The threat of a government shutdown over PP baffles me. Is this something they want to shut the government down over?

This baby was born at 5 months.
Do you buy Democrat propaganda that the living baby is just a clump of cells?
Nearly a month after being premature, I'm sure PP would love to sell his parts.

 

[K1052]

Obama has never been sent a Budget to veto before.
Much as you pretend, this would be the first time he has killed it.

He's already laid down his marker that he will veto any budget that defunds Planned Parenthood. He has said flat out, multiple times, that he would veto any legislation or budget that defunded Obamacare. This presumes that any such legislation could make it out of the Senate which is a dubious proposal at best.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I really want to know the rationale behind that hope.

How would new leadership be more effective? What exactly would they do?

For Republicans to lead effectively and actually get things done, the majority leader needs push issues that unite moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats and basically shove out the extremists at both ends of the political spectrum. Tax reform is a perfect example of an issue that both parties should be able to reasonably deal with...why this hasn't been addressed is beyond me.

 

[TheSlamma]

i tend to agree with him though

any man regularly crying in public at his job in front of thousands of people (and on TV) is a baby

he obviously never learned to control his emotion, which is something every man should have done by the time he turned 10

Anyone that didn't cry in the first 10 minutes of the movie Up! has no EQ and probably struggles in all social situations and doesn't even know it.

 

[fskimospy]

For Republicans to lead effectively and actually get things done, the majority leader needs push issues that unite moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats and basically shove out the extremists at both ends of the political spectrum. Tax reform is a perfect example of an issue that both parties should be able to reasonably deal with...why this hasn't been addressed is beyond me.

My guess is because Boehner would be removed as speaker if he began doing that.

It might be possible for him to briefly run the House as speaker with a coalition of Democrats and moderate Republicans electing him speaker over an attempted effort to oust him but he would have lost his next primary election in his district.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

He's already laid down his marker that he will veto any budget that defunds Planned Parenthood. He has said flat out, multiple times, that he would veto any legislation or budget that defunded Obamacare. This presumes that any such legislation could make it out of the Senate which is a dubious proposal at best.

Let him veto and then give him a budget with his precious PP funding in order to avoid government shutdown. Democrats need to go on record on this issue and we need to see that this President is willing to shut down the government over this issue as well...not Republicans. It's high time for Republicans to be the adults in the room.

 

[Blackjack200]

My guess is because Boehner would be removed as speaker if he began doing that.

It's like there's no recognition of political reality.

Chris Christie is polling at <4% after being hyped as the future of the party four years ago.

Is it because of the mismanagement of the Hurricane Sandy recovery? Is it because his administration closed entrance ramps to a major Hudson River crossing to take political revenge? Is it because he failed on his promise to repair the pubic pension fund? Is it because he shut down a multi-billion dollar Hudson River tunnel that the state badly needs?

No.

It's because he hugged President Obama. That's why he's radioactive now. That's what I mean by batshit insane. The very act of cooperation or compromise with the Democrats on any issue is seen as treasonous.

 

[fskimospy]

Let him veto and then give him a budget with his dear PP funding in order to avoid government shutdown. Democrats need to go on record on this issue and we need to see that President is willing to shut down the government over this issue as well...not Republicans. It's high time for Republicans to be the adults in the room.

The president is already on the record on this issue.

If Republicans want to be the adults in the room the way to do that is clear, which is to not try and take budget hostages yet again. They want to defund Planned Parenthood? Go ahead and pass a bill that does that. Since they can't get enough votes to do that though, they are considering taking the federal budget hostage again. Some people never learn. (or never grow up, haha)

As has been said in all the previous threats like this, taking hostages and refusing to pay the ransom for the hostages are not the same thing. If the Republicans are so foolish as to do this stupid dance again, Obama will win again. Then we can watch conservatives blame the media for their loss instead of accepting that it was a stupid tactic to begin with.

 

[BxgJ]

I was not a fan but i do respect the man for his work. he was in a shitty situation. being the head of the GOP as it goes fucking insane has to be hard.

The threat of a government shutdown over PP baffles me. Is this something they want to shut the government down over?

My parents are Republicans and they think it's nuts. This is the one of the few times i have seen them go off on the GOP. though i admit its been the last 10 years lol. as the GOP slides farther into insanity the more willing they are to jump ship.

This.

A number of republicans that I have talked to, especially the ones my age (37) and younger, have expressed extreme frustration with the craziness in the party. A few have said they are just done with it. Some of these people I know, because they have told me in past election cycles, are the 'walk in and check straight-R ticket' types. Now they are, at least privately, saying they are sitting out or voting for the dems?

I know it's a small sample, but I can't shake the feeling that it is a trend, which of course makes sense. The crazier the republican party gets, the more of the non-hardcore people will jump ship.

Shutting down the govt will only make this process go faster.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

But his replacement pretty much won't be. The hardline tea partiers won't back anyone that isn't as stupid as they are, anyone who they will back will be ignored by everyone else.

I'll basically guarantee that the new Speaker won't be a hardliner and I highly doubt they will get much Tea Party support. Moderates will be electing the new Speaker.

 

[JEDI]

so the repub party is now for the batshit insane.

what party will the moderate repubs form?
Federalists?

heck, lets call them Moderates or Centralists.
and have both repubs and Dems.
that way they cant veer far right/left because of their party name. else be criticized by their opponents and the public

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The president is already on the record on this issue.

If Republicans want to be the adults in the room the way to do that is clear, which is to not try and take budget hostages yet again. They want to defund Planned Parenthood? Go ahead and pass a bill that does that. Since they can't get enough votes to do that though, they are considering taking the federal budget hostage again. Some people never learn. (or never grow up, haha)

As has been said in all the previous threats like this, taking hostages and refusing to pay the ransom for the hostages are not the same thing. If the Republicans are so foolish as to do this stupid dance again, Obama will win again. Then we can watch conservatives blame the media for their loss instead of accepting that it was a stupid tactic to begin with.

I want the Democrats in Congress to go on record as well...elections are coming soon.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Who will lead these open items?
- lawsuit (and hopefully imprisonment) of the President
- follow up to undo the deal with Iran (and hopefully imprisonment of the President)
- ACA reversal (and hopefully imprisonment of the President)
- PP being shut for ever and ever (and hopefully imprisonment of the President)
- bully the Smithsonian for displaying art Christians do not approve of (and,.. hey, why not; hopefully imprisonment of the President)

Yeah fuck compromise!

/sarcasm

 

[brianmanahan]

Anyone that didn't cry in the first 10 minutes of the movie Up! has no EQ and probably struggles in all social situations and doesn't even know it.

lol, i have never cried at a movie in my life, even when i was a little kid

(and that includes Up)

 

[Sonikku]

Inb4 Repubs double down on the crazy and pick the most ultra conservative tea party hack there is.

 

[K1052]

For Republicans to lead effectively and actually get things done, the majority leader needs push issues that unite moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats and basically shove out the extremists at both ends of the political spectrum. Tax reform is a perfect example of an issue that both parties should be able to reasonably deal with...why this hasn't been addressed is beyond me.

That's how you get pushed out of the leadership.

The ultra conservatives who are intent on trying to disassemble the President's domestic agenda and defund things like PP live in a fantasy world where this is somehow possible while Obama sits in the White House and they can't see anything but that.

 

[fskimospy]

I want the Democrats in Congress to go on record as well...elections are coming soon.

That's probably more bad news for Republicans, as people generally oppose defunding Planned Parenthood, especially when that defunding effort is tied to a government shutdown.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Inb4 Repubs double down on the crazy and pick the most ultra conservative tea party hack there is.

If anything is crazy, it's your post...not going to happen.

 

[K1052]

Let him veto and then give him a budget with his precious PP funding in order to avoid government shutdown. Democrats need to go on record on this issue and we need to see that this President is willing to shut down the government over this issue as well...not Republicans. It's high time for Republicans to be the adults in the room.

He is on record. Multiple times in fact.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

That's probably more bad news for Republicans, as people generally oppose defunding Planned Parenthood, especially when that defunding effort is tied to a government shutdown.

People won't care unless the government is actually shut down. Republicans can easily leverage this issue to their political advantage.

 

[K1052]

I want the Democrats in Congress to go on record as well...elections are coming soon.

So by forcing the Democrats to back a position a sizable majority of the country agrees with (along with repudiating other unpopular social conservative positions) the GOP will somehow secure an even greater majority via an election where they have so many seats up for grabs and that is demographically unfavorable.

Makes sense to me.

 

[steppinthrax]

He looked very, very uncomfortable during the Pope's speech yesterday. I'm not entirely surprised by this.

He wasn't actually really uncomfortable. Look at Biden's face as well as his face that day. I think the pope was speaking universally. It was really the first time they both agree on something common. He had a crying look etc....