Boehner being reported as resigning.

[brycejones]

The selection of a new Speaker should be fun. We might see a bipartisan pick as the few not-batshit-crazy Reps join with the Dems to pick a Speaker. The batshit crazy Reps don't have the votes to install one of their own.

I'm not sure I see that happening. The not-crazy GOP members would primaried out the ass in 2016 if they did that.

 

[CitizenKain]

This will be fun. I guess any hope of the rightwing ever figuring out how to accomplish anything is gone.

 

[K1052]

Obama has sat around with nothing to veto for FAR too long.

So instead of not passing legislation that Obama would veto we could move up to passing legislation that he will veto that majority party lacks the votes to override.

Sounds like progress to me.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

With who to replace him and to what end?

Most of the reasonable people wouldn't want those jobs.

WTF? Does it ever occur to you that your extreme bias may be seriously affecting your ability to be reasonably rational?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

only in liberal narrative land.

The fact that they have been the least productive for a few years kind of supports the bat shit crazy theory.

 

[Blackjack200]

i tend to agree with him though

any man regularly crying in public at his job in front of thousands of people (and on TV) is a baby

he obviously never learned to control his emotion, which is something every man should have done by the time he turned 10

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/toxic_masculinity_is_killing_men_the_roots_of_male_trauma_partner/

 

[Jaskalas]

So instead of not passing legislation that Obama would veto we could move up to passing legislation that he will veto that majority party lacks the votes to override.

Sounds like progress to me.

Yes, make the President explain on national TV why he killed the Budget.
That'll be a nice start.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/toxic_masculinity_is_killing_men_the_roots_of_male_trauma_partner/

I hate to admit but this is kind of true

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/toxic_masculinity_is_killing_men_the_roots_of_male_trauma_partner/

I've never understood the stigma associated with men crying. The world would probably be a better place if more people were comfortable doing that.

 

[K1052]

WTF? Does it ever occur to you that your extreme bias may be seriously affecting your ability to be reasonably rational?

After watching the current leadership struggle mightily (and to little effect I might add) to wrangle the GOP caucus into accomplishing something this is a serious question. What good is leading a near historic level majority if you're unable to wield it?

 

[K1052]

Yes, make the President explain on national TV why he killed the Budget.
That'll be a nice start.

This is delusional.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Oops

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, make the President explain on national TV why he killed the Budget.
That'll be a nice start.

If you're a conservative that would be playing right into Obama's hands.

I mean conservatives have already lost this sort of battle of refusing to pass a budget that doesn't include some pet policy preference of theirs twice. All Obama will do is the same thing he did the previous two times: say "Send me a clean budget and I'll sign it today".

Not sure why you think doing the same thing that has already failed twice will lead to a better outcome this time.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

i tend to agree with him though

any man regularly crying in public at his job in front of thousands of people (and on TV) is a baby

he obviously never learned to control his emotion, which is something every man should have done by the time he turned 10

I hate to admit but this is kind of true

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

i tend to agree with him though

any man regularly crying in public at his job in front of thousands of people (and on TV) is a baby

he obviously never learned to control his emotion, which is something every man should have done by the time he turned 10

I get it that Boehner is more emotional than most, but your idea of what it means to be a man is much different than mine...compassion is a desirable human attribute in my world.

 

[TheSlamma]

As much as I don't like him the reasons for him getting pushed out are scary. The demands will be for a hard liner that will vote to stop finding for planned parenthood.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

After watching the current leadership struggle mightily (and to little effect I might add) to wrangle the GOP caucus into accomplishing something this is a serious question. What good is leading a near historic level majority if you're unable to wield it?

Hence his apparent resignation. Hopefully, his replacement can be much more effective.

 

[Blackjack200]

As much as I don't like him the reasons for him getting pushed out are scary. The demands will be for a hard liner that will vote to stop finding for planned parenthood.

I wonder if this wasn't a deal to keep the government open. 'Pass an appropriations bill without defunding PP, and I'll step down'.

Edit: Called it.

The shocking move means there’s unlikely to be a government shutdown next week. Following Boehner’s announcement, House Republicans said there was agreement to pass a clean spending bill to avert a government shutdown. Several members of the Freedom Caucus, the conservative group which led the revolt against Boehner’s leadership, said they will now support the spending bill without demands to defund Planned Parenthood attached to it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/09/25/boehner-resigns/

 

[sportage]

What is going on ???
Well, Boehner wanted to avoid a government shutdown.
In the house, the Ted Cruz organization of the party wanted/wants a full blown fight.
And a government shutdown.
This time, Boehner was told to either go along with the Ted Cruz dictators, or face political death.
So Boehner is doing the only thing he can do, commit political suicide. Fall on his sword.

What does this all mean?
The Ted Cruz's of the party have taken over.
They will have their government shutdown and this time it will be a long hard one.
This will not go good for the country by no means, and will ignite an infernal hell fire within the republican party like never before.

As far as the republican party goes, as we know it today, that Ronald Reagan conservative party, could easily implode spewing the ruminates of conservative republican establishment candidates all over the political landscape.
Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Rubio, Christie, Graham, Walker, Pataki, and certainly John Kasich.

When the smoke clears the republican party will solely consist of extreme right wing religious fundamentalist militants.
Carson, Huckabee, Cruz, Santorum will emerge as the new republican party.
The new leadership of the republican party.
The inevitable destruction of the republican party.
Et tu, Brute? Et tu?

 

[Jaskalas]

If you're a conservative that would be playing right into Obama's hands.

I mean conservatives have already lost this sort of battle of refusing to pass a budget that doesn't include some pet policy preference of theirs twice. All Obama will do is the same thing he did the previous two times: say "Send me a clean budget and I'll sign it today".

Not sure why you think doing the same thing that has already failed twice will lead to a better outcome this time.

Obama has never been sent a Budget to veto before.
Much as you pretend, this would be the first time he has killed it.

 

[K1052]

Hence his apparent resignation. Hopefully, his replacement can be much more effective.

I really want to know the rationale behind that hope.

How would new leadership be more effective? What exactly would they do?

 

[waggy]

I actually am a Boehner fan. Despite clearly not agreeing with his policy preferences I think he's done a reasonably good job in an almost impossible situation. The hard right has been trying to oust him for years now, and my strong suspicion is that they have succeeded.

I wonder what the final straw was?

I was not a fan but i do respect the man for his work. he was in a shitty situation. being the head of the GOP as it goes fucking insane has to be hard.

The threat of a government shutdown over PP baffles me. Is this something they want to shut the government down over?

My parents are Republicans and they think it's nuts. This is the one of the few times i have seen them go off on the GOP. though i admit its been the last 10 years lol. as the GOP slides farther into insanity the more willing they are to jump ship.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I don't think this was political, I think it was this man's church leader calling him out as a failure with nearly every word of his speech.

 

[waggy]

I really want to know the rationale behind that hope.

How would new leadership be more effective? What exactly would they do?

nothing. anyone who thinks whoever is in charge next has a fucking chance to get shit passed with the GOP as it is now are nuts.

the GOP is so fractured something major has to change.

 

[fskimospy]

Obama has never been sent a Budget to veto before.
Much as you pretend, this would be the first time he has killed it.

What's your point? Republicans will still lose.