Attention Bernie Bros

[sandorski]

That's your retort? To equate letting something be imperfect to excusing multiple instances of incompetence as the same thing?

I don't recall your posting history being filled with such pointless posts as you have had in the past year. What is wrong with you?

Srsly, why?

 

[ivwshane]

We also can’t crater the economy indefinitely to prevent a pandemic that is able to spread asymptomatically.

Why would we need to crater the economy indefinitely? I mean I get that this doesn't seem like something that we can fix/address because we have the most incompetent president in charge but we are and will continue to make progress in spite of trump not because of trump.

 

[Blackjack200]

I wonder why health corp stocks love Biden so much.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1249797247971340289

 

[ivwshane]

I wonder why health corp stocks love Biden so much.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1249797247971340289

Are you smart enough to figure out the error in his thinking or has your thinking been replaced by people on twitter?

 

[sandorski]

Are you smart enough to figure out the error in his thinking or has your thinking been replaced by people on twitter?

Republican Obstructionism?

 

[ivwshane]

Republican Obstructionism?

Come on! You should have let the twitter bot answer

 

[Moonbeam]

You can call it whatever you want but when someone says two things are similar when the overwhelming consensus and historical record shows otherwise, it's either intellectual laziness or they are being dishonest, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Blame, btw, is useful if one wants to know how we got here and how we can move forward and not repeat the mistakes of the past. Blaming for the sake of blaming or to scapegoat accomplishes nothing.

Now if you want to continuing blaming others because they don't share your feelings of doom about our democracy and call them, essentially programmed sheep, all while giving me shit for pointing out the failures of your generation, well you go ahead but know that hypocrisy isn't a good look for you.

Did I blame someone for being a programmed sheep? Did I blame you for being a Boomer bigot. Please try to see that I am trying to express the notion that we are our world, that how we see things, how we take them when they are reflected to us is a projection of what we already feel and have felt since childhood, how we were made to feel, guilty and ashamed of everything and forced by that to deny to this truth to ourselves by transference to others. You blame yourself, not me. I just showed you a mirror. You created what you saw. We are massively defended against knowing the pain we feel and defended is defensive about everything.

We just witnessed a rare event. Blackjack just considered the possibility he could be wrong.

 

[ivwshane]

Did I blame someone for being a programmed sheep? Did I blame you for being a Boomer bigot. Please try to see that I am trying to express the notion that we are our world, that how we see things, how we take them when they are reflected to us is a projection of what we already feel and have felt since childhood, how we were made to feel, guilty and ashamed of everything and forced by that to deny to this truth to ourselves by transference to others. You blame yourself, not me. I just showed you a mirror. You created what you saw. We are massively defended against knowing the pain we feel and defended is defensive about everything.

We just witnessed a rare event. Blackjack just considered the possibility he could be wrong.

How do you know I didn’t show you a mirror?

 

[Moonbeam]

How do you know I didn’t show you a mirror?

I’m sure you did because what I saw was beauty untold.

 

[cytg111]

On the basis of full social distancing thru May, which isn't actually happening in a lot of places. Might as well say everybody gets a pony.

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.

covid19.healthdata.org

Notice the cone of uncertainty in the bottom graph.

Bucky reply : Still not hundreds of deaths.

 

[cytg111]

We also can’t crater the economy indefinitely to prevent a pandemic that is able to spread asymptomatically.

This has got to be paid content.

Anyway.
"The economic benefits of social distancing outweigh the pandemic's hit to U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) while also saving more than a million lives, according to a soon-to-be published study from the University of Wyoming. "

Economic benefits of social distancing outweigh GDP losses by $5.2T: analysis

The economic benefits of social distancing outweigh the pandemic’s hit to U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) while also saving more than a million lives, according to a soon-to-be publish…

thehill.com

Back to HQ for new talking points again. Bye bye.

 

[TheVrolok]

All of the "no difference between Republican and Democrat" nonsense, going back to 2000, is why we're where we're at right now.

Voting for Nader, or Stein, or the SpaceJesus/ZombieWashington ticket is a vote not going to the clearly less evil candidate, which obviously helps put in the more evil candidate in office. And no, that's how it works in a first-past-the-post system. It doesn't give a fuck about how much better your ethics, principles and morals are. It doesn't give a fuck about the purity party you throw yourself by voting for a hampster, or staying home because you're above the fray.

The "heighten the contradictions" crowd sure as shit are heightening the contradictions, and then wondering why the people in charge keep getting worse and worse and worse.

They need to figure out how the first-past-the-post election system works, and stop helping the more evil candidates win. Otherwise, just vote directly for the most evil candidate so you can "bring the system down" or whatever, instead of pretending like you're doing something else when voting for a candidate that can only ever spoil the less evil candidate from getting in and preventing or at least slowing the descent into open right-wing authoritarian fascism.

Indeed. We need ranked choice voting.

 

[TheVrolok]

Come on! You should have let the twitter bot answer

That's only part of it, don't forget that the ACA raised the minimum coverage requirements (shit plans that didn't cover anything were disallowed), so while premiums may not have fallen, the coverage for the money improved. You'd think a Bernie Bro would understand that.

 

[dank69]

I wonder why health corp stocks love Biden so much.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1249797247971340289

ACA primary goal was not to reduce average premiums. You may as well be crying about how the ACA didn't solve global warming. Stop doing Republicans' work for them.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Bucky reply : Still not hundreds of deaths.

yawn. My post was in the context that we will be quite fortunate should the death toll remain order of magnitude equivalent to a bad flu season.

This has got to be paid content.

Anyway.
"The economic benefits of social distancing outweigh the pandemic's hit to U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) while also saving more than a million lives, according to a soon-to-be published study from the University of Wyoming. "

Economic benefits of social distancing outweigh GDP losses by $5.2T: analysis

The economic benefits of social distancing outweigh the pandemic’s hit to U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) while also saving more than a million lives, according to a soon-to-be publish…

thehill.com

Back to HQ for new talking points again. Bye bye.

Leave the poor straw people alone. Social distancing measures. while effective, are a temporary measure. We will see what happens as some nations open their economies and experience flare ups.

You’re TDS must be acting up again.

 

[cytg111]

yawn. My post was in the context that we will be quite fortunate should the death toll remain order of magnitude equivalent to a bad flu season.

Leave the poor straw people alone. Social distancing measures. while effective, are a temporary measure. We will see what happens as some nations open their economies and experience flare ups.

You’re TDS must be acting up again.

"You're" ?
Please refrain from social interaction. You are spreading the stupid.
Get new talking points plz.

 

[Blackjack200]

ACA primary goal was not to reduce average premiums. You may as well be crying about how the ACA didn't solve global warming. Stop doing Republicans' work for them.

The "Affordable Care" Act.

 

[dank69]

The "Affordable Care" Act.

Yeah, affordable for people who couldn't get affordable healthcare previously. Also notice that the ACA did actually lower inflation slightly in 2010, which is when Americans in their infinite wisdom gave the House and many Governorships back to Republicans who proceeded to immediately start dismantling it, getting inflation right back on track in 2011. Go ahead and blame Democrats though.

 

[Blackjack200]

Making healthcare affordable to people that couldn't afford it before by (checks notes) allowing premiums to continue to balloon.

 

[Brainonska511]

Making healthcare affordable to people that couldn't afford it before by (checks notes) allowing premiums to continue to balloon.

So we should ignore the part that gave millions Medicaid coverage that couldn't qualify before? Or the parts where health insurance, when sold, could no longer be absolute shit with things like lifetime caps and coverage holes you could drive a truck through?

And that's not even considering that the Republicans have done everything in their power to hobble the rollout of the law so that its benefits are never fully realized in many areas.

There are still lots of problems, and arguably, the law didn't go far enough, but it's a hell of a lot better than what existed before. What's the solution to get a single-payer, UHC implemented in the US, considering that the ACA barely passed through Congress?

 

[Blackjack200]

So we should ignore the part that gave millions Medicaid coverage that couldn't qualify before? Or the parts where health insurance, when sold, could no longer be absolute shit with things like lifetime caps and coverage holes you could drive a truck through?

And that's not even considering that the Republicans have done everything in their power to hobble the rollout of the law so that its benefits are never fully realized in many areas.

There are still lots of problems, and arguably, the law didn't go far enough, but it's a hell of a lot better than what existed before. What's the solution to get a single-payer, UHC implemented in the US, considering that the ACA barely passed through Congress?

Medicaid expansion and the things they did fix about coverage (preexisting conditions etc.) were good! No argument there. But I'm not going to ignore that the bill did not solve the cost problem, and that health care companies continued to expand their profits without much of a bump, which was the point of my original post.

 

[dank69]

Medicaid expansion and the things they did fix about coverage (preexisting conditions etc.) were good! No argument there. But I'm not going to ignore that the bill did not solve the cost problem, and that health care companies continued to expand their profits without much of a bump, which was the point of my original post.

And remember, the reason that it didn't fix healthcare prices is not the fault of Republicans, who have obstructed any changes all along the way, it is the fault of the Democrats, many of whom have been fighting for the changes you want but cannot get it through because of some shitty Democrats and all Republicans. So don't vote for either party, which will not result in more Republicans winning.

 

[eelw]

So don't vote for either party, which will not result in more Republicans winning.

Let’s hope for a record breaking landslide win where every Republican loses. Popular vote win, not by 3 million but 30 million.

 

[Starbuck1975]

"You're" ?
Please refrain from social interaction. You are spreading the stupid.
Get new talking points plz.

Irony

 

[Jhhnn]

And remember, the reason that it didn't fix healthcare prices is not the fault of Republicans, who have obstructed any changes all along the way, it is the fault of the Democrats, many of whom have been fighting for the changes you want but cannot get it through because of some shitty Democrats and all Republicans. So don't vote for either party, which will not result in more Republicans winning.

Pure bullshit. The GOP has controlled at least one house of congress since the 2010 election, rendering Dems impotent. You're also begging for a repeat of 2016 with he last sentence.