Red Squirrel
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I would try to line something up and quit. Though you have to look at the big picture as the grass it not always greener on the other side.
Though, since you're temp, are you under any kind of conflict of interest agreement? If not, then see if you can start your own business on the side, once that takes off you can quit.
Though, since you're temp, are you under any kind of conflict of interest agreement? If not, then see if you can start your own business on the side, once that takes off you can quit.
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It is hard to get in there when your company is in the way
<3
That's fucking hilarious.
Mean
But hilarious
PenguinPower
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National average is around 40% fully burdened. That includes everything, including required OT.
Of course, in his case, since they aren't even legally compliant, I think 60% more would be on the low end.
PenguinPower
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Not really. In my previous life, I worked in an industry with insane WC costs for a majority of the ee base, European-level leave benefits, profit sharing, annual discretionary bonus, fully vested immediately 100% matching up to 6%, 90/10 employee sponsored medical and we still only hit 46% fully burdened averaged across the entire company.
Ns1
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purbeast0
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then why do you want to work for free and not get paid for it? why don't you just not work once you hit the total hours they are willing to pay you for?
highland145
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So I feel bad because I sounded like I was some super star. I can just do a lot of different things and those skills fit in very well with the company.
My main job is programming and fixing credit card terminals. I can fix nearly everything on them and this saves the company a ton. I also fix random things from cell phones to power supplies to anything small and electronic. I also have a ton of experience in 12 volt, so I have been upgrading some advertising trailers we have. I also am really good at calming down pissed off people, so I take some feisty phone calls. Then I also help IT when shit comes up. I tend to get things done quickly and without complaining like some other people, so I get random stuff thrown my way.
I am replaceable but it would take a few people to fill all my roles.
Here is today's fun:
Because screw wire management!
My main job is programming and fixing credit card terminals. I can fix nearly everything on them and this saves the company a ton. I also fix random things from cell phones to power supplies to anything small and electronic. I also have a ton of experience in 12 volt, so I have been upgrading some advertising trailers we have. I also am really good at calming down pissed off people, so I take some feisty phone calls. Then I also help IT when shit comes up. I tend to get things done quickly and without complaining like some other people, so I get random stuff thrown my way.
I am replaceable but it would take a few people to fill all my roles.
Here is today's fun:
Because screw wire management!
Based off of my experience being a generalist is part of your problem. Without any areas of specialty you don't have a really defined role within the company. As such, your skill set is viewed as easily replaceable.
Once you are the XYZ expert they start to quantify your worth more and value what you bring to the team.
Once you are the XYZ expert they start to quantify your worth more and value what you bring to the team.
He's already tried that. It's one of those hobby things you can make money on the side doing, not a full time money making job. There will always be real companies that will do it faster and cheaper due to scale.
Starting a real company takes capital.
Yup. You would think being a jack-of-all-trades would be a good thing, but it's really not.
It makes you a master of none, and that's not worth anything. They ask themselves "if they're so good at all this stuff, why are they working here for peanuts?".
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That's the credit card machine repair. There is no documentation on it and I am very good at it. It's a big number when you figure all the money I save them. Plus I know the programming inside and out. So when we launch new products, I get to figure out how to make it work. Basically they tell me what is needed and a day later I hand them a machine with what they need. Then they can copy that a million times. Before me, every machine was done by hand. They could only program a few a day. Now they can do 25-30 a day.
That's the part they would have a very hard time replacing. Well at least without spending a butt ton of money.
BoberFett
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My specialty was software (specifically RDBMS based business app) development, but I have very broad IT knowledge from networking to systems to desktop apps.
That IT generalist background, along with the people skills that I throw out the window while posting here on AT, helped me get into IT management where I make plenty of money.
Don't think that IT generalist is necessarily a dead end. The caveat is generalist has a limited lifespan in that particular role. Only specialists can continue to be techs until they retire. Generalists need to move into management, PM or BA, otherwise they're put out to pasture.
That IT generalist background, along with the people skills that I throw out the window while posting here on AT, helped me get into IT management where I make plenty of money.
Don't think that IT generalist is necessarily a dead end. The caveat is generalist has a limited lifespan in that particular role. Only specialists can continue to be techs until they retire. Generalists need to move into management, PM or BA, otherwise they're put out to pasture.
Giving you warm fuzzies when they talk to you does not equate to treating you well. That's how friends and family are measured. These people are your employer, and the measure of how well you're treated is whether you're compensated for the work you do, given proper time off between road trips, and your concerns taken seriously when you bring them up.
By those standards, they are most definitely not treating you well.
I get that you're happy working for them, and like I said before, there is a LOT to be said for that because fun rewarding jobs are one in a million. I've been in positions where I've tolerated a heap of shit simply because I liked the arrangement, a boss, a particular coworker, etc. But call a spade a spade and be honest with yourself.
The others are right: money is precisely what this is about. Hiring you on full-time is hardly a "process," especially given that you already work for them and don't need any true onboarding (orientation, training, ramp-up).
The only caveat to the above is whether they're actually shadier than you think. For instance, do they carry no other full time employees? How are they paying themselves? Do they actually offer benefits packages? Perhaps they're dragging their feet because even the brass at the top are being paid as consultants.
But that's a huge stretch just for argument's sake. In reality, they're just trying to save money on you. Hiring you on FT means +50% overhead on you.
They're in the business of making money, and if they can save that 50% telling you that want to have your babies, they will.
olds
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Paper towel and duct tape FTW.
Just cut the shit out of my hand doing dishes. Oh well...stitches are for pussies right?
highland145
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