Atlantic Ocean getting hot as hell - could be monstrous hurricane season

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dank69

dank69

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pmv said:
Next: alligators being blown into people by tornados. Allig-nado.
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Think about how much Trump memorabilia just got destroyed. Trump campaign about to get a nice influx of cash from all the replacements. Democrats losing 4D chess over here by making this Hurricanado and directing it at Florida.
 
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Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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While I've yet to see daytime reports of damage, from what we saw last night the collapsing Hurricane and final track spared Florida from a worst case scenario.
Water was pushed out of Tampa bay for a small period as the northern eyewall passed over the bay itself. Backside was apparently still intact and causing stormsurge / damage, but we'll need to see just how bad that was now that the storm has passed. Initial assessment, despite the damage, they did not see the worst case.
 
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Zorba

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Stokely said:
Been through a lot of these storms, and while it's expected to have possible hurricanes in the outer bands, I don't recall it being like this.

For one thing, I think any tornadoes are expected to be lesser ones. And maybe most were. But a couple I saw on vid were the wider wedge kind that you don't normally see. Scary as hell. The big one in St Lucie county had some kind of big debris circling it way, way off the ground... The met on the stream I was watching isn't from FL and said for that type/size of tornado, you need to get underground. Unfortunately, here there is no underground.
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Most of Oklahoma has no underground. Outside of the core of an EF-5 the typical sheltering advice works very well. The EF-5 in Moore in 1999 (fastest wind speeds ever recorded), not a single person properly sheltering in their house was killed. Many were killed after leaving their house looking for different shelter.
 
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ksheets

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i drove 1200 miles and 28 hours back to Ohio to escape a drizzle essentially...ugh..I might have the car shipped back and fly home :)
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Zorba said:
Most of Oklahoma has no underground. Outside of the core of an EF-5 the typical sheltering advice works very well. The EF-5 in Moore in 1999 (fastest wind speeds ever recorded), not a single person properly sheltering in their house was killed. Many were killed after leaving their house looking for different shelter.
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I mean, that's just luck though. An EF3 can pull a home down on your head. A 5 will tear the studs out of the concrete. Sheltering underground is the only place you're actually safe, everything else is rolling a d20.
 
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eelw

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Is it because there isn’t a safe place to sail to, but why not undock and ride out the hurricane in smoother waters?
 
Indus

Indus

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pmv said:
Next: alligators being blown into people by tornados. Allig-nado.
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I wouldn't mind Burmese Python carrying tornados to end up on properties of MaraLago, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Pythonados would be awesome to see!
 
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eelw said:
Is it because there isn’t a safe place to sail to, but why not undock and ride out the hurricane in smoother waters?
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Not a boat owner currently (nor ever have I owned anything large) but those storms are huge, with weather effects way outside the core of the storm. I know they recorded a 28-foot wave in Milton from one buoy. Plus there's always uncertainty about where they are going even with modern science getting better with prediction. You might set sail to get out of harm's way and end up right in its path.
 
pcgeek11

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Having ridden out hurricane / typhoon on a ship (US Navy on a Submarine Tender) off the coast of Australia.

A small boat / ship anywhere near a hurricane / typhoon is NOT where anyone with a functioning brain cell would want to be.
 
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Zorba

Zorba

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[DHT]Osiris said:
I mean, that's just luck though. An EF3 can pull a home down on your head. A 5 will tear the studs out of the concrete. Sheltering underground is the only place you're actually safe, everything else is rolling a d20.
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People died in basements in Joplin. Statistics show that sheltering in a small interior space works. I have personally seen the damage of multiple EF-5s and the vast majority of homes retained small interior rooms, even when the outside walls had their anchor bolts pulled out of the slab. In 2013 there were only a few houses that were left as a truly bare slab.

Yes a storm shelter is best. But the vast vast majority of people that take shelter in a small interior room of a sturdy building/house (non-moble home) will be fine. However, every major tornado people get killed by leaving a sturdy structure looking for shelter elsewhere.
 
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Dave_5k

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Zorba said:
People died in basements in Joplin. Statistics show that sheltering in a small interior space works. I have personally seen the damage of multiple EF-5s and the vast majority of homes retained small interior rooms, even when the outside walls had their anchor bolts pulled out of the slab. In 2013 there were only a few houses that were left as a truly bare slab.

Yes a storm shelter is best. But the vast vast majority of people that take shelter in a small interior room of a sturdy building/house (non-moble home) will be fine. However, every major tornado people get killed by leaving a sturdy structure looking for shelter elsewhere.
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Don't know the actual statistics, but growing up in the Midwest, all of the multiple-death tornadoes I can recall were from mobile trailer parks getting hit. Even direct hits on well built homes were pretty rare to have folks killed, whether or not they had a basement.
 
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kage69

kage69

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Lt Dan survived. Should probably go buy some lottery tickets.

I'm fine.



“Is the water coming back in or is it still going out?” he asked the news anchor.

“It’s going out,” O’Donnell told him. “You hang in there.”

“Alright, I appreciate that. I’ll see you tomorrow,” Malinowski responded.

Many people turned to the comments section to express how excited they were that “Lieutenant Dan” had survived the storm.

“He survived Milton on a boat he earned a promotion to Captain Dan,” one comment read.
 
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Zorba

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Dave_5k said:
Don't know the actual statistics, but growing up in the Midwest, all of the multiple-death tornadoes I can recall were from mobile trailer parks getting hit. Even direct hits on well built homes were pretty rare to have folks killed, whether or not they had a basement.
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Yeah, mobile homes are the real state bird of Oklahoma.
 
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iRONic

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The large cranes I saw used offshore required another crane as big or bigger to assemble and disassemble them. It was a big job and it took quite a few days.

@skyking could probably shed some light on that question.
 
skyking

skyking

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iRONic said:
The large cranes I saw used offshore required another crane as big or bigger to assemble and disassemble them. It was a big job and it took quite a few days.

@skyking could probably shed some light on that question.
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tower cranes go up and down over the course of weeks as the building goes up. I am thinking it was a typical gamble that the crane would survive the storm. They can take a whole lot of weather. Also, the storm path is really vague so that adds to the gamble.
 
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