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Are you going to watch Rio Olympic?

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She's a prodigy, considered the future of USA swimming, who won gold in the 2012 Olympics at only age 15 and is 19 now.
You've completely ignored the (honest) question I asked.

As I said in another thread, we'd be more surprised if Usain Bolt is clean rather than "juiced" the way he's decimated all of his competitors, many of whom have gotten caught within the past decade. Having said that, now imagine if Bolt was the best in the world from 200m to 3000m.

That's more or less where Katie Ledecky is currently, although you could argue swimming and running are sufficiently different that this isn't a perfect comparison.
 
You've completely ignored the (honest) question I asked.
Is Katie Ledecky for real? She's the freestyle world record holder from 1500m to 400m, a "stud" in the 200m and great enough to anchor the silver medalists in the 4x 100m relay?

She's a prodigy, considered the future of USA swimming, who won gold in the 2012 Olympics at only age 15 and is 19 now.

I thought it was implied that IMO she not dirty.

However, from my limited understanding of logic, it's not possible to prove a negative (and therefore its not likely possible to prove this supposition. 😉)
 
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Thanks for the update



I feel the same way. At some point, we have to hit a wall that humans will simply no longer be able to break, right? There are physical limitations that biology won't allow--A human isn't going to be swimming faster than a dolphin, for example. So, considering how most of the pros are generally within 10s of seconds of each other, I wonder when we will hit that time wall where no one will ever be able to swim or run faster at that specific distance? Even being juiced?

I agree there's a wall, but the wall is shifting slowly over time I feel because of advances around technology, nutrition, training methods, etc
Even if there are no general improvements over time, I think that records will still be broken. Think about a bell curve that we keep repeating over time. Even if the curve isn't shifting, the extreme cases at the tail end that are expected to occur very rarely will eventually occur just through passage of time.
 
You know my stance on this. That reminds, did you ever buy that place in PS? I need a place to stay in March. Thx.

I had (another) change of heart and decided I can't actually live in a place with a median temperature of 110 in the summer.
 
USA rugby broke my heart.

Poor coaching, IMO. They got fitness, size and speed. What they lack is effective planning and training.

Danny Barrett was gassed in the second half and should've been replaced by Durutalo. Rucking and support in general was weak.

We already have the athletic talent to play at a higher level. We need a coaching staff that can give the team a successful method of applying our strengths.
 
I got bored and started watching tonight. Tuned in at 10:30. It's now 11:00. In the past 30 minutes, there has been 1 minute and 55 seconds of swimming. Aren't there other sports they could put on in between, rather than continuing with inane banter?
 
I got bored and started watching tonight. Tuned in at 10:30. It's now 11:00. In the past 30 minutes, there has been 1 minute and 55 seconds of swimming. Aren't there other sports they could put on in between, rather than continuing with inane banter?
There were some swimming finals before and after the half hour you watched.
Primetime led off with a fantastic beach volleyball match, the highlight of tonight's broadcast IMO. U.S. just barely avoided a huge upset.
 
I particularly like how some 90% of these athletes come from the best coast.
Except the two most dominant/legendary athletes in the Olympics (presumably in Olympic history):

Phelps & Ledecky. Both from Maryland. Those 2 account for, well, everyone else. 😀

(Ledecky will likely be up there with "best in history" because it seems she's actually more dominant than Phelps...which is nuts.)
 
I agree there's a wall, but the wall is shifting slowly over time I feel because of advances around technology, nutrition, training methods, etc
Even if there are no general improvements over time, I think that records will still be broken. Think about a bell curve that we keep repeating over time. Even if the curve isn't shifting, the extreme cases at the tail end that are expected to occur very rarely will eventually occur just through passage of time.

Oh for sure--but you do realize that it is entirely impossible for an actual human to ever out-swim a dolphin, right? So, there will be a time wall that is physically impossible for humans to break.
 
USA rugby broke my heart.

Poor coaching, IMO. They got fitness, size and speed. What they lack is effective planning and training.

Danny Barrett was gassed in the second half and should've been replaced by Durutalo. Rucking and support in general was weak.

We already have the athletic talent to play at a higher level. We need a coaching staff that can give the team a successful method of applying our strengths.

So, do like the soccer team did and poach an international coach and some of their athletes and call them "Americans"? 😛
 
(Ledecky will likely be up there with "best in history" because it seems she's actually more dominant than Phelps...which is nuts.)
Ledecky was just unreal last night in the 4 x 200 medley. She was a second behind Australia going in and finished way out in front.
 
Am I misremembering or did the prime time show in the past do a bit more of a daily recap? Seems all it does now is play 3 sports (swimming, gymnastics, volleyball) for 4 hours. Personally I'd really like to see a daily recap of the events, even if it wasn't "team USA winning everything".

Granted I can pretty much see it all online, but that site is kind of a pain in the ass to navigate and I don't want to watch 100 hours of everything.
 
I agree there's a wall, but the wall is shifting slowly over time I feel because of advances around technology, nutrition, training methods, etc
Even if there are no general improvements over time, I think that records will still be broken. Think about a bell curve that we keep repeating over time. Even if the curve isn't shifting, the extreme cases at the tail end that are expected to occur very rarely will eventually occur just through passage of time.

No, it's not a bell curve. It's a logistics curve where we approach a number that represents what is humanly possible. We get closer and closer to that number as conditioning, training, and equipment get better.
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In this example, the curve is approaching 1 assymptotically. Thus, you could argue that there will always be room for improvement to get closer and closer to that absolute maximum possible value. However, that ignores that values are measured in discrete increments, for instance, 1 thousandth of a second intervals. Thus, if someone reaches within half of a thousandth of a second of the absolute maximum value, then no one will be able to improve on their time unless we start measuring to the nearest 10 thousandth of a second (and consider previous Olympic records to end in a repeating string of zeros.)
 
Am I misremembering or did the prime time show in the past do a bit more of a daily recap? Seems all it does now is play 3 sports (swimming, gymnastics, volleyball) for 4 hours. Personally I'd really like to see a daily recap of the events, even if it wasn't "team USA winning everything".

Granted I can pretty much see it all online, but that site is kind of a pain in the ass to navigate and I don't want to watch 100 hours of everything.
Yes, it was much better before NBC decided "plausibly live" and tons of pre-recorded human interest pieces were all we really wanted.

It used to be that the producer kept switching venues based on where the action was ... It was great, like channel surfing without ever lifting a finger.

The past few days, I've realized I can watch a full Cubs baseball game @7p, then switch to the last hour of olympics coverage ... And basically miss nothing.
 
Several articles recently trashing the NBC coverage. So far all NBC has said in response is everything is streamed live, cause suboptimal quality Internet stream favorably compares to broadcast quality viewing.


Did watch the final swimming relay this morning online. Found it rather odd as it was not a repeat of the TV broadcast but seemed to be separate broadcasters and with more limited graphics. Also noticed they used a lot more underwater shots than during tv coverage. Was kinda odd watching like that after watching all the rest on tv.
 
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