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Glad to see that Presidential pivot lasted all of the 2 minutes of his speech on election night. Actually had some twinkling of hope that he'd pack up the crazy and put it in a box. Nooooooope.
 

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The next president of the most powerful country on the entire planet Earth, ladies and gentlemen:

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Oh, and we've got nukes too!

This is such an embarrassment. The US is now a country by illiterate morons, for illiterate morons, run by the ultimate illiterate moron. How did we go from Obama to this? This guy probably hasn't opened a book since he was a child. Very small, weak mind.
 

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Hey Moonbeam what happened to your avatar?
This is such an embarrassment. The US is now a country by illiterate morons, for illiterate morons, run by the ultimate illiterate moron. How did we go from Obama to this? This guy probably hasn't opened a book since he was a child. Very small, weak mind.
Illiteratepeople#Sad!
 

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Someone has hacked his Twitter account and he just doesn't know about it. Right? Right? There can't be any other explanation. (Still in denial)
 

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Trump can get mad all he wants to at SNL's portrayal of him but how quickly the right wing religious fanatics forget how they also poked fun at his predecessor many times.
 

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This is such an embarrassment. The US is now a country by illiterate morons, for illiterate morons, run by the ultimate illiterate moron. How did we go from Obama to this? This guy probably hasn't opened a book since he was a child. Very small, weak mind.

I don't think anyone still in doubt that we now live in a post-literate world.
 
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Dude he's some kind of really smart person who just has a real hard time understanding simple things like: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Balance_fallacy
You and Jhhnn are so wrapped up in your talking points aimed at Trump supporters you don't have the first clue what I said. You only believe what you think I said. I never, ever stated that "They are just as bad." Those are words both of you stuffed in my mouth.

What I am saying is that they both suck. Oooh, Hillary sucks slightly less? So what? Is that supposed to motivate me or anyone else to vote for her?

I refused to vote for sucky Trump and refused to vote for sucky Clinton. You two can have your slightly less sucky candidate.

Are we fucking clear now little boys? Go foist your lame arguments and poorly aimed logical fallacies on someone else.
 

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You and Jhhnn are so wrapped up in your talking points aimed at Trump supporters you don't have the first clue what I said. You only believe what you think I said. I never, ever stated that "They are just as bad." Those are words both of you stuffed in my mouth.

What I am saying is that they both suck. Oooh, Hillary sucks slightly less? So what? Is that supposed to motivate me or anyone else to vote for her?

I refused to vote for sucky Trump and refused to vote for sucky Clinton. You two can have your slightly less sucky candidate.

Are we fucking clear now little boys? Go foist your lame arguments and poorly aimed logical fallacies on someone else.

Bragging about not understanding simple concepts only makes you look about as dumb as parroting GOP talking points while proclaiming to be independent.

To be clear, Trump/gop doesn't need low-infos' vote for them to benefit, just not show up for the sane/qualified candidate while his reliable "both sides" propagandists always do for theirs.

You get easily played and remain proud of it.
 

Jhhnn

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You and Jhhnn are so wrapped up in your talking points aimed at Trump supporters you don't have the first clue what I said. You only believe what you think I said. I never, ever stated that "They are just as bad." Those are words both of you stuffed in my mouth.

What I am saying is that they both suck. Oooh, Hillary sucks slightly less? So what? Is that supposed to motivate me or anyone else to vote for her?

I refused to vote for sucky Trump and refused to vote for sucky Clinton. You two can have your slightly less sucky candidate.

Are we fucking clear now little boys? Go foist your lame arguments and poorly aimed logical fallacies on someone else.

What part of "It was a shitstorm of slime from both sides." doesn't mean "they're just as bad!"?
 
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Bragging about not understanding simple concepts only makes you look about as dumb as parroting GOP talking points while proclaiming to be independent.

To be clear, Trump/gop doesn't need low-infos' vote for them to benefit, just not show up for the sane/qualified candidate while his reliable "both sides" propagandists always do for theirs.

You get easily played and remain proud of it.
Typical Jhhnn. So busy sucking on Clinton's teat he can't see the forest for the trees.

There was nothing to be proud of in this election from either candidate. Your absolute refusal to acknowledge that Clinton sucked as a candidate is your problem, not mine. The same refusal by your fellow Democrats to recognize that Hillary sucked lost you the election. Stop trying to blame Trump supporters or anyone else that didn't vote for Clinton. It's your own damn fault. Own it.
 
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What part of "It was a shitstorm of slime from both sides." doesn't mean "they're just as bad!"?
Maybe it's the part where you're a partisan tool for one side where I don't care about either of them? You see only what you want to see.

btw, that comment addresses their political ads, in case you've forgotten the context. Most of their ads were basically nothing but sliming the other side. Nothing less could have been expected from Trump and his ilk but at least Clinton could have taken the high road. After all, according to you she was the better candidate. She didn't take the high road. She jumped right in the mud with Trump.
 

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Typical Jhhnn. So busy sucking on Clinton's teat he can't see the forest for the trees.

There was nothing to be proud of in this election from either candidate. You absolute refusal to acknowledge that Clinton sucked as a candidate is your problem, not mine. The same refusal by your fellow Democrats to recognize that Hillary sucked lost you the election. Stop trying to blame Trump supporters or anyone else that didn't vote for Clinton. It's your own damn fault. Own it.

You're so smart you can't even figure out who you're replying to much less defend against professional agitprop.

Maybe it's the part where you're a partisan tool for one side where I don't care about either of them? You see only what you want to see.

btw, that comment addresses their political ads, in case you've forgotten the context. Most of their ads were basically nothing but sliming the other side. Nothing less could have been expected from Trump and his ilk but at least Clinton could have taken the high road. After all, according to you she was the better candidate. She didn't take the high road. She jumped right in the mud with Trump.

"I'm not sheep easily influenced by PR except when I base my entire decision on PR approach". LOL
 
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You're so smart you can't even figure out who you're replying to much less defend against professional agitprop.
You're both partisan tools so your comments all blur together. After all, you're both using the very same talking points.

"I'm not sheep easily influenced by PR except when I base my entire decision on PR approach". LOL
Please try to form a proper sentence and that might make a modicum of sense. Though, considering the source, it's highly unlikely.
 

agent00f

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You're both partisan tools so your comments all blur together. After all, you're both using the very same talking points.

Blaming everyone else for insufficient mental acuity only looks bad. And just because they're all telling you 2+2=4 and not 22 doesn't mean you're smart for not getting it.

Please try to form a proper sentence and that might make a modicum of sense. Though, considering the source, it's highly unlikely.

Let's try some spoon feeding: just previously you claimed not to fall for the superficial aspects of politics; and just now you admit to predicating your decision on the clinton campaign strategy (of replaying what trump says). Ponder that for while and maybe you too can figure out why those with some acuity might think you're gullible.
 

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Maybe it's the part where you're a partisan tool for one side where I don't care about either of them? You see only what you want to see.

btw, that comment addresses their political ads, in case you've forgotten the context. Most of their ads were basically nothing but sliming the other side. Nothing less could have been expected from Trump and his ilk but at least Clinton could have taken the high road. After all, according to you she was the better candidate. She didn't take the high road. She jumped right in the mud with Trump.

You mean when she whupped him in 3 debates over actual policy? When she kept campaigning on actual programs & initiatives? When drilling down into her website at all revealed a lot of concrete plans? When she said he wasn't fit to serve & played back all the shitty things he said?

It just didn't matter cuz you can't trust Hillary over her freaking email, over Benghazi, over all they horrible things she never said about women who were screwing her husband. Over hacked DNC & Podesta emails. Over the slime attack on the Clinton Foundation. Over any scurrilous bit of innuendo & outright lies they threw at her.

But they could somehow trust Trump, cuz he tells it the way it is, or more accurately the way they want to hear it. It's a dream like state of delusion.
 
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You mean when she whupped him in 3 debates over actual policy? When she kept campaigning on actual programs & initiatives? When drilling down into her website at all revealed a lot of concrete plans? When she said he wasn't fit to serve & played back all the shitty things he said?

It just didn't matter cuz you can't trust Hillary over her freaking email, over Benghazi, over all they horrible things she never said about women who were screwing her husband. Over hacked DNC & Podesta emails. Over the slime attack on the Clinton Foundation. Over any scurrilous bit of innuendo & outright lies they threw at her.

But they could somehow trust Trump, cuz he tells it the way it is, or more accurately the way they want to hear it. It's a dream like state of delusion.
There you go again. You have absolutely NO clue how to respond to someone that isn't a Trump supporter because it isn't part of your talking points memo, yet you pretend that I somehow trust Trump. I don't. He's a moron.

You and AgentIdiot just don't seem to grasp the concept.

I will repeat it for you guys again. They both suck. Even though Hillary sucked less it didn't make me want to vote for her because she still sucked. When you can actually be honest and admit that Hillary sucked as a candidate, even though she didn't suck as much as Trump, you might gain some credibility. Until then you both will remain nothing but Democratic party shills.
 
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Blaming everyone else for insufficient mental acuity only looks bad. And just because they're all telling you 2+2=4 and not 22 doesn't mean you're smart for not getting it.
You and Jhhnn are both partisan tools which makes you hard to tell apart. I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of Jhhnn's sock puppet accounts the way you mimic each other.
 

agent00f

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There you go again. You have absolutely NO clue how to respond to someone that isn't a Trump supporter because it isn't part of your talking points memo, yet you pretend that I somehow trust Trump. I don't. He's a moron.

You and AgentIdiot just don't seem to grasp the concept.

I will repeat it for you guys again. They both suck. Even though Hillary sucked less it didn't make me want to vote for her because she still sucked. When you can actually be honest and admit that Hillary sucked as a candidate, even though she didn't suck as much as Trump, you might gain some credibility. Until then you both will remain nothing but Democratic party shills.

I believe I was quite clear that her lack of political charisma was a considerable liability with superficial people. Obama or her husband would've spun the agitprop around much better, which is rather important when that's what the gullible are influenced by.


You and Jhhnn are both partisan tools which makes you hard to tell apart. I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of Jhhnn's sock puppet accounts the way you mimic each other.

That's because you're really quite dumb, like particularly tardy pets who can't tell rather different people apart.
 
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I believe I was quite clear that her lack of political charisma was a considerable liability with superficial people. Obama or her husband would've spun the agitprop around much better, which is rather important when that's what the gullible are influenced by.
So when Obama was elected because of his political charisma you were bent out of shape because "superficial" people voted for him?

Take your baloney and foist it on someone else. It doesn't work on me and I am more than happy to expose your lame retorts for the poorly thought out responses they are.
That's because you're really quite dumb, like particularly tardy pets who can't tell rather different people apart.
Your previous comments have already proven you to be a embicile. Do everyone a favor and try to graduate high school before you engage adults in political discussions.
 

agent00f

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So when Obama was elected because of his political charisma you were bent out of shape because "superficial" people voted for him?

Take your baloney and foist it on someone else. It doesn't work on me and I am more than happy to expose your lame retorts for the poorly thought out responses they are.

Your previous comments have already proven you to be a embicile. Do everyone a favor and try to graduate high school before you engage adults in political discussions.

Labeling someone dumb is only effective if can be convincingly demonstrated. For example, it's pretty easy to show the "embicile" among us is the one who can't remotely comprehend accurate assessments of opportunistic centrists such as obama or clinton like this.
 

Jhhnn

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There you go again. You have absolutely NO clue how to respond to someone that isn't a Trump supporter because it isn't part of your talking points memo, yet you pretend that I somehow trust Trump. I don't. He's a moron.

You and AgentIdiot just don't seem to grasp the concept.

I will repeat it for you guys again. They both suck. Even though Hillary sucked less it didn't make me want to vote for her because she still sucked. When you can actually be honest and admit that Hillary sucked as a candidate, even though she didn't suck as much as Trump, you might gain some credibility. Until then you both will remain nothing but Democratic party shills.

You fail to acknowledge any of what I said even as you quote me. It seems perfectly clear that the propaganda efforts I mentioned have affected you along with a lot of other people.

If Hillary lacks charisma, how did she win the popular vote?

See if you can reconcile that with what you've offered.
 

Genx87

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I was never in doubt before he was elected. He is only helping confirm it by his actions since winning. I will give Clinton credit that she would only be a shit storm. Those can be cleaned up from much easier.
 
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You fail to acknowledge any of what I said even as you quote me. It seems perfectly clear that the propaganda efforts I mentioned have affected you along with a lot of other people.
When you put words in my mouth I really could not care less what you say. Maybe if you learn to discuss issues without stuffing things down people's throats that they never said, as well as removing your perception bias glasses, we might get somewhere? Until then, it's unlikely we will agree.

If Hillary lacks charisma, how did she win the popular vote?

See if you can reconcile that with what you've offered.
Hillary won the popular vote because of her charisma? That's the funniest joke I've heard in a long time. What's that old saying? Oh yeah, "Causation does not equal correlation."

Many Democrats are going to vote for a Democrat no matter what. The Independents who voted for Hillary did so not because of any "charisma" but because they felt she was less icky than Trump. Charisma was not a factor and trying to imply anything of the sort is ridiculous. If she had charisma the Dems, and Independents, would have come out on droves like they did for Obama. That didn't happen. That's why Hillary and the Dems lost the election, because Hillary sucked as a candidate, something you continually turn a blind eye too and refuse to admit. You don't need to admit it though, the results speak for themselves. Your refusal to admit that is nothing but pure, unadulterated denial.