Patranus
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- Apr 15, 2007
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I was looking over this 99ers website posted in P&N.
One poster was bitching about their 50k of student debt but then taking a picture in the mirror via an Android smart phone.
Another was 100k in debt and cannot find a job but majored in art or history or something like that.
Another is a 2 time convoked felon and is bitching about the lack of jobs.
99% of these people are bitching about their debt which is from student loans. I really don't get how that is the fault of wall street.
One poster was bitching about their 50k of student debt but then taking a picture in the mirror via an Android smart phone.
Another was 100k in debt and cannot find a job but majored in art or history or something like that.
Another is a 2 time convoked felon and is bitching about the lack of jobs.
99% of these people are bitching about their debt which is from student loans. I really don't get how that is the fault of wall street.
Ns1
No Lifer
- Jun 17, 2001
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He made the mistake of trying to be diplomatic.
Unfortunately the Sheeple spoke and elected a bunch of shills that are just in it for the money. So they fight for "their rights" while somehow convincing the "common man" that they are protecting the American Fairy Tale ending any American can get.
Amazing how they still try to save that $250K "temporary" tax cut and label it as a "tax increase" and that somehow it will negatively effect the "working man".
Joe the Plumber my ass.
IndyColtsFan
Lifer
- Sep 22, 2007
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There are plenty of reasons to be mad at Wall Street, but a bunch of idiots going into six figure debt for Art History degrees isn't one of them.
Patranus,
The problem is not the few that are the bad examples of the many. You can cherry pick a drug using wife beater as an example of why food stamps are bad, OR you can look to the majority of widowed, divorced, or simply underemployed individuals that use them to get the food they need to LIVE.
The key here is not to categorize EVERYONE. Humans are so good at bad type casting. We relate to a few handfulls of relatives and friends, and the rest are "them". Also, somehow people with a differing opinion have to be objected to 100%. Like somehow agreeing with them on something like Education or Health Insurance means that you will be in lock step with every other topic on the planet.
Nice fantasy that the Tea Party is now finding out is root-and-core false.
The only thing that we should realize is that 80% of the people out there are STUPID. Good, bad, ugly, does not matter. Hell, even "smart" people can be incredibly dense when it comes to things like socio-economic issues on a macro/global scale.
Once you realize that, then it is easier to see why we get this. We elect pretty people that speek lots of nice words as our leaders as they are paid by corporations to make all those nice commercials that make us like their niceness even more. And when someone tries to do something different, any closet they have is opened, whether it is theirs or not actually, in order to somehow discount what is being said by mere association rather than substance.
Bottom line? 90% of the protesters are stupid, but so are 90% of the ones objecting to it. They key is to find out what is really f'd up and FIX IT rather than yelling for someone else to do it.
The problem is not the few that are the bad examples of the many. You can cherry pick a drug using wife beater as an example of why food stamps are bad, OR you can look to the majority of widowed, divorced, or simply underemployed individuals that use them to get the food they need to LIVE.
The key here is not to categorize EVERYONE. Humans are so good at bad type casting. We relate to a few handfulls of relatives and friends, and the rest are "them". Also, somehow people with a differing opinion have to be objected to 100%. Like somehow agreeing with them on something like Education or Health Insurance means that you will be in lock step with every other topic on the planet.
Nice fantasy that the Tea Party is now finding out is root-and-core false.
The only thing that we should realize is that 80% of the people out there are STUPID. Good, bad, ugly, does not matter. Hell, even "smart" people can be incredibly dense when it comes to things like socio-economic issues on a macro/global scale.
Once you realize that, then it is easier to see why we get this. We elect pretty people that speek lots of nice words as our leaders as they are paid by corporations to make all those nice commercials that make us like their niceness even more. And when someone tries to do something different, any closet they have is opened, whether it is theirs or not actually, in order to somehow discount what is being said by mere association rather than substance.
Bottom line? 90% of the protesters are stupid, but so are 90% of the ones objecting to it. They key is to find out what is really f'd up and FIX IT rather than yelling for someone else to do it.
Patranus
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zinfamous
No Lifer
- Jul 12, 2006
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zinfamous
No Lifer
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ever since saint Reagan, the distinction between Wall Street and the evil government has become blurred.
continue to praise your saint for confounding the target with which you may aptly place your blame.
Oyeve
Lifer
- Oct 18, 1999
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I literally work on wall street. I do not make millions. I barely make ends meet. these douche-bag protestors make my commute a bitch. Stop whining, go take you shit to the white-house, get a job, and go back to the burbs. I bet half of you mother f***ers will be working for "the man" or will become "the man" once you graduate from your douche colleges. In the meantime, you are wasting MY tax dollars which is also probably paying for your wasted education and you will all become exactly what you are protesting against. And if any of you are truly emo, CUT DEEPER next time. We need to weed out the chaff.
AstroManLuca
Lifer
- Jun 24, 2004
- 15,628
- 5
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Yes, by not doing anything to stop Wall Street from fucking the economy.
I mean come on, we give them a free pass to do basically whatever they want; what do we expect? That they'll just follow the rules on their own because they don't want to be bad? It's like complaining about too-low taxes on the rich - do people expect rich people to just send some of their extra money to the Treasury just because they don't think they're paying enough?
P&N is leaking today. I kind of like it though since we're getting some added perspectives of people that generally avoid that forum.
yhelothar
Lifer
- Dec 11, 2002
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There are a lot of moronic hippies out there whining when they should just work harder to get a job. But some of the issues are legitimate, such as the protests to stop corporate funding to politicians. This is a no-brainer that's LONG overdue. Unfortunately, that's probably not going to get much spotlight when overall, the protest is filled with a bunch of hippie whiners.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
- Jul 3, 2003
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I want to know what's so bad about protesting? People can't get jobs, we are taxed to death yet government spending is at an all time high as is the defecit.
I'd like to see more protesting big corporations/government and less complacency.
We the sheeple...
I'd like to see more protesting big corporations/government and less complacency.
We the sheeple...
Ns1
No Lifer
- Jun 17, 2001
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they choose to do something useful with their lives like brushing up their skills, looking for jobs, starting businesses, etc.
Yes your right I should not have been thinking about my retirement I should be blowing it all now and banking on entitlements.....how irresponsible of me. :roll;
How unreasonable of me to think the government would hold these crooks accountable. :roll;
your right I lost 52% 2008....made 6% back in 2009 ....4% in 2010 and lost 5% in 2011 so net my loss is 45% not 50....that makes a big difference to my point :roll;
I don't have to retire soon luckily, some people may never retire or have to work part time through retirement.
there fault I guess they too should have been holding out for entitlements.
sourceninja
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- Mar 8, 2005
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I said the same thing to the protesters of Egypt and Syria. If these people feel they have a legit beef, I support them and their right to try to change it. It's a founding principle of this country.
not to mention
the dot .com bubble
housing bubble
the no earnings bubble. Its all a scam. The credit default swap almost took the whole world down. Crazy times we live in.
preslove
Lifer
- Sep 10, 2003
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Ns1
No Lifer
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Took us four decades to get to 1 trillion debt and from 2008 to current we incur 13 trillion dollars to a total of 14 trillion. Its scary.
Ns1
No Lifer
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it's the job of a business owner to identify areas of growth/high demand, not government.
time to get out of the $499 Designer Widgets business and get into the $49 Budget Widget business (unless your name is Apple)
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