Any of you hippies protest at Wall Street?

[feralkid]

It's one thing to have an opinion; quite another to actually express it. Crush them into the dirt for standing up and blaming Wall Street for fucking us all.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

You do know that you are all fucked by wall street even though you may have a job now you and your children will be paying to clean up the mess they left for decades to come. If that doesn't enrage you then I have to assume you don't actually understand anything at all.

Personally, not including the inflation, additional taxes and all the other intangible costs....I've lost more than 50% of my retirement since 2008. I have a job. I'm still fucking pissed though.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Far too many people that expect far too much for doing for too little, or just simply have too high of expectations. That VAST majority of america >90% don't have problems finding modest work, saving a modest amount of money, and LIVING WITHIN THEIR MEANS.

This coming from a high school drop out earning ~ 52K, by himself, ~ 80K household income, with a child and a wife with just a high school education.

Too many people think they can or have the right to live in Manhattan (sp? fuck it), making 250K, drinking martinis every night.

That's great you have an education, but I guess that doesn't make you smart.

Your numbers are off. While unemployment figures are technically below 10%, that doesn't necessarily mean the "employment rate" is over 90%. Unemployment numbers don't cover people who have given up looking for work. They also don't cover underemployment, in which someone IS working but still doesn't make enough to support themselves. The underemployment rate is nearly 20% right now, and those people are most certainly not able to save a modest amount of money. Even living within your means is hard when paying for groceries, rent, and gas eats up all your money and simply buying necessary items or taking care of unexpected costs as they come up wipes out your finances for the month.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Great example.

"i am over $250,000 in debt
house $160,000 car $5,000 student loans $100,000
(for me and my husband )
we spend over $18,000 a month paying down debt
We have $100 or less for food each month
this needs to change!"

People are so damn stupid. How can anyone run up that much debt (there is a lot of debt they're conveniently forgetting to mention if they're paying $18K a month) and then try to blame others or society for their stupidity?

Reminds me of that CNN article a few months ago about school loans and two schmucks ran up $250K in school loans getting degrees in social work and were whining about it. I just wanted to reach through the screen and punch them for being so dumb.

 

[GotIssues]

You do know that you are all fucked by wall street even though you may have a job now you and your children will be paying to clean up the mess they left for decades to come. If that doesn't enrage you then I have to assume you don't actually understand anything at all.

Personally, not including the inflation, additional taxes and all the other intangible costs....I've lost more than 50% of my retirement since 2008. I have a job. I'm still fucking pissed though.

1. You aren't required to invest. You chose to.
2. If you've lost 50% of your retirement since 2008, that means you pulled your money out at the lowest point and missed the rally or you picked really bad funds to invest in. Sure, if you left your money in index funds (which are better than nearly all actively managed funds in the long run) you'd be down, but nowhere near 50%. To top it off, being down doesn't matter unless you are planning on retiring soon, in which case you should have adjusted your asset allocation to protect against declines, which would be again your fault. How are your bad decisions someone else's fault?

Why take responsibility for your actions when you can be pissed about it and blame someone else, right?



Some of these people had a raw deal or in a bad situation. Some of these people are whiners looking for someone else to take responsibility for their poor decisions. The whiners make the whole lot of them look bad.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

How are your bad decisions someone else's fault?

It all starts in school with the "curve".

 

[Paul98]

Is this going to be the tea party for the left?

 

[trollolo]

america has always been about the big business, anyone who thinks otherwise need only go look at our first few presidents

 

[Ninjahedge]

You are mixing messages.

Hippies are like flies, they will find the right shit and buzz incessantly around it.

BUT IT IS STILL SHIT.

Wall Street, meaning the guys in charge, not the peons they booted out when they declared bankruptcy so they did not have to pay them any severance or benefits as was written in their contracts, is a joke. They are basic shills and sheisters looking for someone to fleece at the "open market".

Now, stopping people from getting across the Brooklyn Bridge? Stupid. Protesting in mass numbers at places like Goldman Sacs, smart. Unfortunately most of these flies do not want to use the PATH train to Jersey City because a protest there would not be cool.

 

[Arkaign]

How bout these hippies :

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/1...-coming-to-protect-protesters-on-wall-street/

 

[LookBehindYou]

Your numbers are off. While unemployment figures are technically below 10%, that doesn't necessarily mean the "employment rate" is over 90%. Unemployment numbers don't cover people who have given up looking for work. They also don't cover underemployment, in which someone IS working but still doesn't make enough to support themselves. The underemployment rate is nearly 20% right now, and those people are most certainly not able to save a modest amount of money. Even living within your means is hard when paying for groceries, rent, and gas eats up all your money and simply buying necessary items or taking care of unexpected costs as they come up wipes out your finances for the month.

You tryin to make me look bad? Dick.

I fail at almost all my posts and end up being wrong half the time. People should just take what I post as opinion that means nothing. You'll be better off.

 

[Thebobo]

Is this going to be the tea party for the left?

Who will be their Sarah Palin or Michael backman?

 

[Thebobo]

How bout these hippies :

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/1...-coming-to-protect-protesters-on-wall-street/

Send in the marines!

 

[PingSpike]

Many of the protesters are likely rubes but that doesn't mean Wall Street isn't a bunch of assholes that fucked everything up big time and then bribed our politicians into shafting us with the bill.

Great example.

"i am over $250,000 in debt
house $160,000 car $5,000 student loans $100,000
(for me and my husband )
we spend over $18,000 a month paying down debt
We have $100 or less for food each month
this needs to change!"

So, even assuming they count living expenses as debt that means they are spending 18,000 x 12 = $216,000/year. In order to pay that they'd have to earn that. So they're making some pretty serious bank there. Either they're paying that off really fast or they're leaving some details out....because just going by gut reaction it doesn't seem like they have more than $2-3,000 of monthly debt obligations from what they listed. And they're obvious both employed in high income positions.

 

[GotIssues]

Who will be their Sarah Palin or Michael backman?

You only hear the name on the radio, don't you?

And I pray that there is no leftist version of the Tea Party. One set of useless idiots grinding congress to a halt is bad enough

 

[preslove]

Many of the protesters are likely rubes but that doesn't mean Wall Street isn't a bunch of assholes that fucked everything up big time and then bribed our politicians into shafting us with the bill.

This. If I lived within easy travel distance to NYC I'd take a week off and be there. The deregulation of the banking sector is primarily what got us into our current economic catastrophe. Social action is needed to convince washington to reregulate and shrink wall street.

 

[gorcorps]

You tryin to make me look bad? Dick.

I fail at almost all my posts and end up being wrong half the time. People should just take what I post as opinion that means nothing. You'll be better off.

Then don't post random bullshit you pulled out of the air and pass it off as fact. Somebody will catch it and usually have proof.

 

[GotIssues]

Many of the protesters are likely rubes but that doesn't mean Wall Street isn't a bunch of assholes that fucked everything up big time and then bribed our politicians into shafting us with the bill.



So, even assuming they count living expenses as debt that means they are spending 18,000 x 12 = $216,000/year. In order to pay that they'd have to earn that. So they're making some pretty serious bank there. Either they're paying that off really fast or they're leaving some details out....because just going by gut reaction it doesn't seem like they have more than $2-3,000 of monthly debt obligations from what they listed. And they're obvious both employed in high income positions.

Not to mention that they'll be completely debt free in less than 2 years at that rate. Sounds like they made a mistake but they are correcting it with a vengence.

 

[AstroManLuca]

This. If I lived within easy travel distance to NYC I'd take a week off and be there. The deregulation of the banking sector is primarily what got us into our current economic catastrophe. Social action is needed to convince washington to reregulate and shrink wall street.

That is true, and Obama has done even less to go after Wall Street than Bush did. Of course there's no way a Republican president would EVER try to be tough on Wall Street, so there's basically no hope for an economic recovery in the next decade. Whoever wins, we lose.

 

[Ns1]

i love my corporate overlords

#OccupyLA

 

[lxskllr]

That is true, and Obama has done even less to go after Wall Street than Bush did. Of course there's no way a Republican president would EVER try to be tough on Wall Street, so there's basically no hope for an economic recovery in the next decade. Whoever wins, we lose.

That's because we have inverted fascism here. The government is owned by the corporations. They need to keep their handlers happy.

 

[dainthomas]

The impression I'm getting from this thread is that it's patriotic to protest the government for "stealing my money", but only dirty smelly un-American hippies protest the government's overlords who are doing the ACTUAL stealing.

 

[PimpJuice]

1. You aren't required to invest. You chose to.
2. If you've lost 50% of your retirement since 2008, that means you pulled your money out at the lowest point and missed the rally or you picked really bad funds to invest in. Sure, if you left your money in index funds (which are better than nearly all actively managed funds in the long run) you'd be down, but nowhere near 50%. To top it off, being down doesn't matter unless you are planning on retiring soon, in which case you should have adjusted your asset allocation to protect against declines, which would be again your fault. How are your bad decisions someone else's fault?

Why take responsibility for your actions when you can be pissed about it and blame someone else, right?



Some of these people had a raw deal or in a bad situation. Some of these people are whiners looking for someone else to take responsibility for their poor decisions. The whiners make the whole lot of them look bad.

Iceberg got owned

 

[IcePickFreak]

Far too many people that expect far too much for doing for too little, or just simply have too high of expectations. That VAST majority of america >90% don't have problems finding modest work, saving a modest amount of money, and LIVING WITHIN THEIR MEANS.

This coming from a high school drop out earning ~ 52K, by himself, ~ 80K household income, with a child and a wife with just a high school education.

Too many people think they can or have the right to live in Manhattan (sp? fuck it), making 250K, drinking martinis every night.

That's great you have an education, but I guess that doesn't make you smart.

That first comment sums up Wall Street (minus the grammatical error, they're all geniuses there.)

 

[Miramonti]

Protesting the unchecked wall street turds is retarded.

Look into the reasons they are unchecked, and one might find a few things worth protesting.