Anti-ACORN filmmaker arrested

[WhipperSnapper]

Rofl-lmao!

 

[WHAMPOM]

ALL of you lefties will defend anybody if it helps your cause.

So are you in the "some" that can be fooled all the time?
Congrats on 2000 posts on nothing. :wub:

 

[Zargon]

why is the title so misleading?

shouldnt it say 'anti-pork-belly-govt-spending-advocate"

or american patriot?

 

[rudder]

Someone watched too much Mission Impossible.

 

[soundforbjt]

How's smart does this make the 40 or so (R) Senators who gave them some sort of special award or mention?

 

[Pens1566]

This is amusing. I'm waiting to see when they roll over on who's been behind them.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

"NEW ORLEANS—JOSEPH BASEL, age 24; ROBERT FLANAGAN, age 24; JAMES O’KEEFE, age 25; and STAN DAI, age 24, were charged in a criminal complaint with entering federal property under false pretenses for the purpose of committing a felony, announced the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Louisiana".

Purpose of committing a felony, hmmm, and just what purpose would that be? Other than maybe a couple of screwdrivers, I highly doubt they had any type of real wire tapping, or bugging equipment. These young boys probably couldn’t get around a small office phone system, let alone the main trunk of a building this size. Do any of them have experience with phone systems? Would not the prosecution have to prove intent? If the crime is so egregious, why was their bail so low?



"They requested access to the main telephone at the reception desk. FLANAGAN and BASEL then *manipulated* the telephone system. FLANAGAN and BASEL next requested access to the telephone closet because they needed to perform work on the main telephone system".

So, the receptionist says they fiddled with her phone. Me thinks they pretended to look like they knew what they were doing, but in fact, did nothing at all. Though young and daring, these boys aren’t stupid, they knew the risks going in, and the risk was minimal, ( determined, perhaps by their handlers?). Had they pulled this off, the story may have fetched a pretty penny, heck, it still might down the road. Their crime, IMHO isn’t much worse than that guy who got past the TSA, and kissed his girl friend goodbye at the airport, and nowhere near as bad as that TSA agent that planted white powder on a young girl.
Just my two cents, talk amongst yourselves.

 

[hal2kilo]

This is amusing. I'm waiting to see when they roll over on who's been behind them.

I'm buying a case of popcorn!

 

[Craig234]

How's smart does this make the 40 or so (R) Senators who gave them some sort of special award or mention?

The 40 R's deserve enormous blame for their immoral behavior, but they can't be blamed for the bad behavior of these guys.

 

[Craig234]

This is amusing. I'm waiting to see when they roll over on who's been behind them.

In my opinion, it's likely no one was behind them. For the most part the way the game is played is, 'get away with it, and you get big rewards, but no ties and sponsorship before that.'

Get caught and there's no direct link.

There's always the rare exception, like the 'investigators' who were out for part of Richard Mellon Scaife's $50 million "get Clinton" fund, but usually not.

THere have been some 'dirty tricks' paid for by the national RNC but they seem pretty careful.

They very likely wouldn't begin to take the chance of getting caught by any direct support for these sort of amateurs against a US Senator. They remember Watergate.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Could be posing as a pimp wasn't acting.

lol

 

[HomerJS]

I'm waiting for the spin on O'Really and InSanity tonite, and Beck's chalkboard on this tomorrow.

Surprise. They didn't even mention it. I guess Roger Ailes has to get his talking points first.

 

[Zebo]

10 yrs seems a little harsh and I'm a law and order type. Hell you can kill someone and get less than 10 yrs (just make sure it's second degree)

 

[Zebo]

This is amusing. I'm waiting to see when they roll over on who's been behind them.

Very perceptive! You don't do shit like this without a financier.

 

[marincounty]

How does that crow and Acorn pie taste dumbasses? I kept telling you this was crap and you kept defending these clowns.
O'Keefe's arrest "is further evidence of his disregard for the law in pursuit of his extremist agenda," ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis said in a statement. The organization's Twitter feed commented on the news: "Couldn't have happened to a more deserving soul."
I couldn't have said it any better.

 

[Patranus]

For those who thing this is part of some vast right wing conspiracy I would like to point out that BREITBART (the man who was behind the syndication ACORN videos) said that he had ZERO involvement and would essentially sue anyone for slander if they linked him in print to this crime.

http://hughhewitt.com/blog/print.aspx?guid=3c0f68ec-ee51-42ae-b9ce-a170d352c202

and he has also been putting this story on all of his sites.
http://biggovernment.com/
http://www.breitbart.com/

Oh look, this is also on FNC home page
http://www.foxnews.com/
(FNC also had coverage on its NEWS programs all afternoon)

Not really sure what people want other than total disclosure.

 

[werepossum]

How does that crow and Acorn pie taste dumbasses? I kept telling you this was crap and you kept defending these clowns.
O'Keefe's arrest "is further evidence of his disregard for the law in pursuit of his extremist agenda," ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis said in a statement. The organization's Twitter feed commented on the news: "Couldn't have happened to a more deserving soul."
I couldn't have said it any better.

Wow. It must be nice to be totally ideologically driven, saving all the time that the rest of us spend thinking.

 

[Zstream]

How does that crow and Acorn pie taste dumbasses? I kept telling you this was crap and you kept defending these clowns.
O'Keefe's arrest "is further evidence of his disregard for the law in pursuit of his extremist agenda," ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis said in a statement. The organization's Twitter feed commented on the news: "Couldn't have happened to a more deserving soul."
I couldn't have said it any better.

Are you honestly saying ACORN is not corrupt? How left wing are you? I mean who in the right mind would defend ACORN's actions... Regardless of who exposed them or who found out about the corruption.

Kind of sad you are so ideological in your thinking

 

[Moonbeam]

Are you honestly saying ACORN is not corrupt? How left wing are you? I mean who in the right mind would defend ACORN's actions... Regardless of who exposed them or who found out about the corruption.

Kind of sad you are so ideological in your thinking

Exposed by criminals? How do we know the exposure was real? They may have paid the Acorn person to perform.

 

[HumblePie]

Exposed by criminals? How do we know the exposure was real? They may have paid the Acorn person to perform.

QFT... Although I highly doubt it.

Here's my take and it's like the shoe being on the foot with this situation.

First off, any big organization of people is going to have a statistical sampling of the human populace. Meaning you are going to have some people who are on the good side, and some on the bad side. Just because I know there have been incidents of 16 year old kids working for McDonalds who have teabagged their nuts into your McRib sauce doesn't mean I think McDonalds as a whole should be put out of business for health violations due to the actions of a few disgrunted employees. I still get my mail through USPS despite some of them going "postal" over the years and I am not afraid of every postal worker attempting a drive by on my route.

So now that the shoe is on the other foot, I don't believe every public republican out there has their hands behind these kids committing crimes in the attempt to "prove" something. Only someone with a hidden agenda, or lacking common sense, or just plain stupid would make those correlations.

Did ACORN have some employees working for them that needed to be ousted? Hell yah they did. Does this guy O'Keefe need to also be sent to jail for breaking the law? Hell yah he does. Do I draw the line there? Yep, because that is what common sense tells me. The whole organization of ACORN doesn't need to be brought down because of the actions of a few, just like the whole Republican party doesn't need to be brought down because of the actions of these kids.

 

[DealMonkey]

This just proves that conservative activists are only capable of shooting themselves in their own foot and looking like f'ing idiots as a result.

 

[Craig234]

Are you honestly saying ACORN is not corrupt? How left wing are you? I mean who in the right mind would defend ACORN's actions... Regardless of who exposed them or who found out about the corruption.

Kind of sad you are so ideological in your thinking

Yes, you're not the ideologue for saying the thousands of ACORN employees are a bad because while most sent the people away, a few wrongly tried to help the people who werw entrapping them.

 

[Moonbeam]

QFT... Although I highly doubt it.

Here's my take and it's like the shoe being on the foot with this situation.

First off, any big organization of people is going to have a statistical sampling of the human populace. Meaning you are going to have some people who are on the good side, and some on the bad side. Just because I know there have been incidents of 16 year old kids working for McDonalds who have teabagged their nuts into your McRib sauce doesn't mean I think McDonalds as a whole should be put out of business for health violations due to the actions of a few disgrunted employees. I still get my mail through USPS despite some of them going "postal" over the years and I am not afraid of every postal worker attempting a drive by on my route.

So now that the shoe is on the other foot, I don't believe every public republican out there has their hands behind these kids committing crimes in the attempt to "prove" something. Only someone with a hidden agenda, or lacking common sense, or just plain stupid would make those correlations.

Did ACORN have some employees working for them that needed to be ousted? Hell yah they did. Does this guy O'Keefe need to also be sent to jail for breaking the law? Hell yah he does. Do I draw the line there? Yep, because that is what common sense tells me. The whole organization of ACORN doesn't need to be brought down because of the actions of a few, just like the whole Republican party doesn't need to be brought down because of the actions of these kids.

Who cares what you doubt. The reality at Acorn or anywhere else is what that reality is. That what is there is a cross section of what is elsewhere is probable but not guaranteed. Even what is probable, however, looses all meaning when criminals point the finger. A witness who lies is useless as a witness. A criminal looses all credibility as a witness.

 

[Lemon law]

My reaction is that they will not really dump on these idiots with a full 10 year sentence, but their days of playing games are over for the rest of their lives. If they ever get busted again for illegal activity, they are going to have a long time aquitaine with being put in iron cages and being fed bad food.

Meanwhile, as Moonbeam points out, their credibility has gone down the toilet for life.

 

[skyking]

I don't think there is any conspiracy whatsoever, it is all about the money. Separate all the players and each will tell a story about making money somehow, some way off the fame. It is all about the "buzz", much like the White House party crashers. I hope they get some jail time 'buzz kill' as well.