Anti-ACORN filmmaker arrested

[CitizenKain]

LOL


http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0110/OKeefe_decries_journalistic_malpractice.html

Good job MSNBC. I can see why your ratings are what they are....

Its hilarious you believe him. Sure, this guy has spent his entire life lying, but THIS time he's telling the truth.

 

[Craig234]

Its hilarious you believe him. Sure, this guy has spent his entire life lying, but THIS time he's telling the truth.

Even on whqat he's infamous for - the press led people to believe he went to ACORN posing as a pimp and got them to help him with his tax planning.

The reports I've seen say he told ACRON he was the girl's friend, and she portrayed herself as a hooker. All his ridiculous pimp outfit video was spliced in, while much of what they really said to ACORN was dubbed.

 

[monovillage]

Being accused isn't the same as being guilty.... presumption of innocence and all that. I guess it's different for those posters on the left when it's a Righty.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Even on whqat he's infamous for - the press led people to believe he went to ACORN posing as a pimp and got them to help him with his tax planning.

The reports I've seen say he told ACRON he was the girl's friend, and she portrayed herself as a hooker. All his ridiculous pimp outfit video was spliced in, while much of what they really said to ACORN was dubbed.

Ok, I'll bite, links to said reports? Whats next? don't tell me let me guess, he hired actors to portray ACORN personal, and the whole story is a fraud. Seems a bit far fetched on a story this old. Understand Craig234 I have an open mind, and if what you say is true, prove it. it would not be the first time I've eaten crow.

 

[EXman]

Is this as bad as Sandy berger filling his pants with secret document from the national archive and destroying them?

This young guy was probably showing off to another way hot conservative pin-up girl.

 

[EXman]

Oh let's not forget Acorn does offer free advice on how to turn children sex slaves from other countries into "dependants" on taxes. Or Hookers clothes/condoms could be tax deductable as business supplies.

 

[Ozoned]

If nothing else, a lawyer for one of the accused is kiting a defense that these men were just trying to embarrass the Senator by showing video of her staff not answering the phone.

Gets a little hard to swallow when they may also be involved with a denial of service attack that tied the phones up in the first place.

But here is the link and lets see how long cover story #1 lasts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100129/ap_on_re_us/us_senator_s_office_arrests

Actually they documented a phone call that was made to the Senators phone that was routed somewhere besides the senators phone.

 

[Craig234]

Oh let's not forget Acorn does offer free advice on how to turn children sex slaves from other countries into "dependants" on taxes. Or Hookers clothes/condoms could be tax deductable as business supplies.

Yes, let's not forget that the US military shot killed its own people when a few membersdid that.

Let's not forget the Republican party cheated on their wives when a few (ok, more) did that.

Let's not forget that Wall Street ripped off billions from people in Ponzi schemes when Madoff and a few others did that, Wall Street is for criminal Ponzi schemes!

ACORN did not do what you say. While most employees turned this woman away, a few people - out of many thousands who did nothing wrong - did try to help her wrongly. Not ACORN, a few people did wrong.

There's no ACORN policy to do this. It was bad behavior by a few people who were removed for it.

Isn't it funny how so many people who hate a group attribute the wrongs of an member to the group, but for a group they like however much wrong it does it's 'bad apples'.

Abu Ghraib was no reflection on the military. it was 'bad apples'.

 

[Craig234]

Ok, I'll bite, links to said reports? Whats next? don't tell me let me guess, he hired actors to portray ACORN personal, and the whole story is a fraud. Seems a bit far fetched on a story this old. Understand Craig234 I have an open mind, and if what you say is true, prove it. it would not be the first time I've eaten crow.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-atlas/acorn-is-back-in-the-news_b_438324.html

 

[EXman]

ACORN did not do what you say. While most employees turned this woman away, a few people - out of many thousands who did nothing wrong - did try to help her wrongly. Not ACORN, a few people did wrong.

This guy didn't go to thousands of Acorn offices. He went to a few and in that few some of them who are agents of ACORN went crazy on tape. Did Acorn sign up thousands of people to vote? Yes. Were they caught buying voters more or less yes. Did Acorn try to sign up Mickey Mouse and many other people fraudulently to voter rolls? Yes.
Did Congress revoke future monies that was supposed to reach them? Yes. Did a judge usurp congress? Yes. Did an Acorn founder embezzle over a million dollars that some of which was tax payer dollars and didn't move against him to recover it? Yes. They got money from another Lib group to replace that money so Acorn was still a viable entity to get tax payer dollars to help them continue business as usual.

Many people have made light of Acorn and act as their actions are not criminal. Should this guy who broke in be punished yes! Should it let Acorn off the hook for anything? Hell no. One's a slime ball Group the other is a slime ball that was being a dumbass kid.

I am just stating that they are both slimeballs. Both deserve punishment. Capiche?

 

[caddlad]

Fraudulent registrations were vetted and reported by ACORN as required by law.

Capiche?

 

[EXman]

Fraudulent registrations were vetted and reported by ACORN as required by law.

Capiche?

Were their frauds on their books? Yes. Did they vet their workers who thought this was acceptable? Nope... And the registrations were not vetted as much as they didn't think they could get away with Mickey mouse and NBA players names. They were not that stupid. It is an organization with cheats and frauds working from top to bottom. That is Fact smart ass.

You're standing up for a turd that has wasted taxpayer dollars. If you are an American first and not a partisan you should be pissed. If you are standing up for this turd still we see you call yourself an American Second.

 

[Craig234]

This guy didn't go to thousands of Acorn offices. He went to a few and in that few some of them who are agents of ACORN went crazy on tape. Did Acorn sign up thousands of people to vote? Yes.

Yes. Good.

Were they caught buying voters more or less yes.

What, they got people to *register*? What's next, the "paid people to watch C-SPAN scandal"? What are y you talkng about?

Did Acorn try to sign up Mickey Mouse and many other people fraudulently to voter rolls? Yes.

No.

Did Congress revoke future monies that was supposed to reach them? Yes.

Yes, the right-wing's noise machine that's against democracy targetted ACORN for registering people to vote who don't vote the rich agenda, and created a media spectacle that got this unconstitutional vote.

Yay for the rich whipping up the mob and defeating the constitution and what's right.

Did a judge usurp congress? Yes.

Listen, criminal, the judge enforced the constitution. What the oath says to do, what good Americans want judges to do. It was black and white unconstitutional.

At least you're not so ignorant you didn't know it happened.

Did an Acorn founder embezzle over a million dollars that some of which was tax payer dollars and didn't move against him to recover it? Yes.

Haven't looked at this one in detail, but did the organization cooperate with authorities against a person doing wrong? Was this a systemic wrong or one person doing wrong?

Compared to, say, Scooter Libby clearly acting on behalf of the vice president?

They got money from another Lib group to replace that money so Acorn was still a viable entity to get tax payer dollars to help them continue business as usual.

Many people have made light of Acorn and act as their actions are not criminal.

What *ACORN* actions are criminal? A handful of people do wrong, the agency deals with it approrpiately.
Is there some ENRON (Bush biggest donor) systemic corruption here?

Should this guy who broke in be punished yes![/quuote]

Yes. Should we condemn the Republican party as a criminal organzation for these four people?

Should it let Acorn off the hook for anything? Hell no. One's a slime ball Group

You're a slimeball poster who blames thousands of people for the bad behavior of a handful.

the other is a slime ball that was being a dumbass kid.

I am just stating that they are both slimeballs. Both deserve punishment. Capiche?

Ya, so the guy at ACORN who commited a crime should be punished, and the Republican party should be punished. Both are slimeballs. Right?

 

[caddlad]

That is Fact smart ass.

WTF are you babbling about?

Were their frauds on their books?

Yes, then vetted and removed.

You teabaggers need to put your spittle guards on.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Watching these fringe leftists trying to defend and deflect from ACORN is hilarious.

 

[caddlad]

Watching these fringe leftists trying to defend and deflect from ACORN is hilarious.

Almost as funny as the apoplectic right pitching a fit whenever you mention "voter registration".

BTW, I'm not "fringe", I pretty much look like Red Forman and my service jacket tags me as "dues paid".

 

[CitizenKain]

Watching these fringe leftists trying to defend and deflect from ACORN is hilarious.

Watching the fringe teabaggers make things up constantly is ever better.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Watching the fringe teabaggers make things up constantly is ever better.

deflect from ACORN

Hmmm....

 

[EXman]

Watching the fringe teabaggers make things up constantly is ever better.

The United States Senate voted to exclude ACORN from federal funding on September 14 and the House of Representatives voted to eliminate Federal funding to ACORN on September 17, 2009.


I guess you can wear my teabag now.

 

[PJABBER]

I now read the resident "progressive" kooks at ATP&N believe the fired ACORN employees were actors hired by O'Keefe and Giles to work at ACORN and then get busted and fired and exposed on national TV. Wonder how much the kids payed them on a budget of a couple of hundred dollars to take the fall?

I am not surprised at the leftward spinning tops here defending ACORN, ignoring the inculpatory statements proudly made by founder Wade Rathke, the documented history of criminal malfeasance, the extraordinary abuse of the poor that they are supposedly advocates of, the now admitted $5 million, not the $1 million previously reported, in leadership embezzlement, the list goes on, not by exception but in definition.

But why defend an organization that works so diligently to do wrong?

The defense we read above is that ACORN registers Democrat voters. Hundreds of thousands of such "registrations" are subsequently deemed fraudulent, with dozens of States engaged in prosecuting both junior and senior ACORN staff for their criminal actions. Good job there!

ACORN advocates for low income home ownership, like providing enthusiastic advice on setting up houses of prostitution that are to be used for the sexual exploitation of minor Salvadoran girls in not one, not two, but seven national offices in some of the largest cities in the United States (Baltimore, Washington, DC, New York, San Bernadino, San Diego, Philadelphia and Los Angeles ). They advocate for illegal immigration. They advocate for tax evasion. Good job there!

Oh, those are great platforms to tar yourself with, oh great defenders of Democratic Party liberalism; it is actually terrific that ACORN is 100% on your side.

I particularly love the reference to the "knowledge" gained from the authoritative, make that authoritarian, HuffingtonPost, the bastion of accuracy, the unquestioned arbiter of truth, except when it is required, the go-to source for the last word of the liberal lemming.

Why not answer to the actual charges made?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2044080

Posts #19 and #20. Feel free to address the facts. In the meantime, the shilling is meaningless.

Spouting opinion without actually having viewed the video recordings or reading the transcripts? Why bother, you are just repeating someone else's spin. You can easily view all the published materials here -

http://biggovernment.com/acorn/

 

[Ozoned]

The United States Senate voted to exclude ACORN from federal funding on September 14 and the House of Representatives voted to eliminate Federal funding to ACORN on September 17, 2009.


I guess you can wear my teabag now.

A judge overturned that. Unconstitutional the way congress did it. It was set to expire anyway.

 

[PJABBER]

James O'Keefe came out with a statement yesterday -

http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/29/statement-from-james-okeefe/

Statement from James O’Keefe

by James O'Keefe

The government has now confirmed what has always been clear: no one tried to wiretap or bug Senator Landrieu’s office. Nor did we try to cut or shut down her phone lines. Reports to this effect over the past 48 hours are inaccurate and false.

As an investigative journalist, my goal is to expose corruption and lack of concern for citizens by government and other institutions, as I did last year when our investigations revealed the massive corruption and fraud perpetuated by ACORN. For decades, investigative journalists have used a variety of tactics to try to dig out and reveal the truth.

I learned from a number of sources that many of Senator Landrieu’s constituents were having trouble getting through to her office to tell her that they didn’t want her taking millions of federal dollars in exchange for her vote on the healthcare bill. When asked about this, Senator Landrieu’s explanation was that, “Our lines have been jammed for weeks.” I decided to investigate why a representative of the people would be out of touch with her constituents for “weeks” because her phones were broken. In investigating this matter, we decided to visit Senator Landrieu’s district office – the people’s office – to ask the staff if their phones were working.

On reflection, I could have used a different approach to this investigation, particularly given the sensitivities that people understandably have about security in a federal building. The sole intent of our investigation was to determine whether or not Senator Landrieu was purposely trying to avoid constituents who were calling to register their views to her as their Senator. We video taped the entire visit, the government has those tapes, and I’m eager for them to be released because they refute the false claims being repeated by much of the mainstream media.

It has been amazing to witness the journalistic malpractice committed by many of the organizations covering this story. MSNBC falsely claimed that I violated a non-existent “gag order.” The Associated Press incorrectly reported that I “broke in” to an office which is open to the public. The Washington Post has now had to print corrections in two stories on me. And these are just a few examples of inaccurate and false reporting. The public will judge whether reporters who can’t get their facts straight have the credibility to question my integrity as a journalist.

 

[EXman]

A judge overturned that. Unconstitutional the way congress did it. It was set to expire anyway.

Still A fact. Just because a activist judge wants to fund a partisan group that is not a shock. This is something that both the Dems and Repubs agreed on. They didn't agree on much but they did agree that Acorn does not deserve any funds.

Since you are a partisan and think Acorn should waste our tax money why bother debating anything with you?

 

[Craig234]

Still A fact. Just because a activist judge wants to fund a partisan group that is not a shock. This is something that both the Dems and Repubs agreed on. They didn't agree on much but they did agree that Acorn does not deserve any funds.

Since you are a partisan and think Acorn should waste our tax money why bother debating anything with you?

You are a dishonest partisan who attacks the constitution when violatong it gives you the benefit of fewer Americans voting who disagree with you. You are an enemy of democracy.

THe constitution clearly bans the targetting of ACRON funding as Congress did it. Your constitutional argument: sice both parties did the political benefical thing, that proves it's constitutional.

You would make a find mob leader, but you are not a follower of the constitution. You don't care what it says, uneless it's on your side.

A judge properly enforces the constitution and blocks a congress ignoring the constitution for politics, and you call them not a good judge but an 'activist'.

You are highly partisan, and you call doing what the constitution says 'partisan'? You sure have that backwards. Acorn wasting money? To you, yes, you are against some Americans voting.

As someone who doensn't want the 'wrong Americans' voting you are against any programs that serves democracy unless it's for your political allies.

 

[Craig234]

I now read the resident "progressive" kooks at ATP&N believe the fired ACORN employees were actors hired by O'Keefe and Giles to work at ACORN and then get busted and fired and exposed on national TV. Wonder how much the kids payed them on a budget of a couple of hundred dollars to take the fall?

I haven't seen one person make this claim - only a righty make a straw man suggesting ACORN supporters might say it, because he couldn't make his own argument.

This would make you a liar once again.

Feel free to link me the ACORN supprters making that claim and I'll withdraw the claim. But as far as I've seeen, you're lying again.