Another record profit for Apple

[Munky]

Why should any consumer care about how much products Apple or any other company sold? More sales does not make it a better product, in case you didn't know. I don't see the point of these sales figures arguments that people like to throw out so much.

 

[cheezy321]

Why should any consumer care about how much products Apple or any other company sold? More sales does not make it a better product, in case you didn't know. I don't see the point of these sales figures arguments that people like to throw out so much.

The more iphones out there = more developers creating great apps for us. I care about their sales because it results in a very healthy app store with apps for virtually anything I need.

Apple has an app store that Google envies. It is because Apple has a huge engaged user base that actually spends money on apps.

 

[Patranus]

The more iphones out there = more developers creating great apps for us. I care about their sales because it results in a very healthy app store with apps for virtually anything I need.

Apple has an app store that Google envies. It is because Apple has a huge engaged user base that actually spends money on apps.

I think units sold is only one part of the equation to developers, the other is profitability.

 

[Munky]

The more iphones out there = more developers creating great apps for us. I care about their sales because it results in a very healthy app store with apps for virtually anything I need.

Apple has an app store that Google envies. It is because Apple has a huge engaged user base that actually spends money on apps.

Yeah, like a separate app for every website you visit because your browser doesn't support text reflow. For some people, all those apps aren't important.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Yeah, like a separate app for every website you visit because your browser doesn't support text reflow. For some people, all those apps aren't important.

it doesn't just have to do with text reflow. mobile apps make a more usable version.

for example, flipboard makes reading the news easier. No need to visit cnn.com, etc etc.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I guess the best analogy for me is Honda motorcycles, I avoided Hondas for years, then one day I saw the sales figures for Hondas versus the other bikes and realized why all the cool accessories were available for Hondas and not the other bikes, it's because 3rd parties can make stuff for a high volume consumer product and make a ton of cash, so everyone flocks to the high sales item.

iPhone cases, docks, speakers, etc come immediately to mind. Just when the 3rd party manufacturers start to support a non Apple phone, it's EOL'd by the manufacturer.

Meh, I get tired of being an Apple apologist here, Anandtech is a subset of a subset.

For instance, I love the Galaxy Note concept, but why in the hell did they give it capacitive buttons and not put ICS on it? Where's the Verizon LTE version? Why in the hell did they put a stylus in it? Why the slow intro into the US market?

 

[Phynaz]

Why should any consumer care about how much products Apple or any other company sold? More sales does not make it a better product, in case you didn't know. I don't see the point of these sales figures arguments that people like to throw out so much.

Current product sales finance the development of new products.

Also, large amounts of products sole drives infrastructure around those prodcuts - How many cars come with Zune docks built into them?

High sales also gives people confidence in the platform. Most people aren't going to want to invest in something if they don't think the company is going to be around.

 

[goog40]

Apple continues its dominance in the enterprise. In the last quarter, iPads accounted for 94.7% of tablet activations, and the 3GS still has close to double the # of activations as the most popular Android phone (SGS2; 3.3% versus 1.7%). These numbers only include iOS and Android, as explained in the methodology. Also, the article headline is wrong, iOS actually accounted for 65.4% of smartphone activations recorded.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._phones_in_good_mobile_enterprise_study_.html

 

[Pliablemoose]

Holy shit.

Just wait till the iP5 comes out.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Why should any consumer care about how much products Apple or any other company sold? More sales does not make it a better product, in case you didn't know. I don't see the point of these sales figures arguments that people like to throw out so much.

So feel free to echo this statement every time our resident Android Propaganda Machine posts some iOS vs Android sales figure or Android marketshare numbers. Who cares right? It doesn't matter at all.

 

[Zaap]

^ Actually it doesn't.

At the heart of it, some people just have too much of their own self-worth tied up in being a fan of some product. "If the product I'm a fan of does well, it must mean I'm a swell person cause my self image is tied up in it! Yay me!"

Personally I think it's a form of insanity, but whatever. To each his own.

 

[Patranus]

So feel free to echo this statement every time our resident Android Propaganda Machine posts some iOS vs Android sales figure or Android marketshare numbers. Who cares right? It doesn't matter at all.

Apple has an actual ecosystem which is why they are selling so many phones.
Volume of sales impacts the products available in that ecosystem.
I find almost anything with "made for iPod".

 

[postmortemIA]

Troubling news. Apple pretty much re-released iPhone 4 and it is selling as cakes. Looks like hardware specs do not nearly matter as much as user experience. Google and partners have been very slow with ICS, which was supposed to be an answer.

 

[Patranus]

Troubling news. Apple pretty much re-released iPhone 4 and it is selling as cakes. Looks like hardware specs do not nearly matter as much as user experience. Google and partners have been very slow with ICS, which was supposed to be an answer.

The 4S destroys the competition in benchmarks and you are saying they simply rereleased the 4? LOL.

 

[Oyeve]

The 4S destroys the competition in benchmarks and you are saying they simply rereleased the 4? LOL.

But the average consumer doesnt know this, all they know is that it has siri.

 

[smartpatrol]

Troubling news. Apple pretty much re-released iPhone 4 and it is selling as cakes. Looks like hardware specs do not nearly matter as much as user experience. Google and partners have been very slow with ICS, which was supposed to be an answer.

Except the 4S is easily the most powerful smartphone out there. A5's GPU destroys the Android competition. . . it's literally about twice as fast as its nearest competitor, the Mali 400 in the Galaxy S2.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2

Sure apple just re-used the same external design. I'd hardly call it a minor upgrade though.

 

[Bateluer]

Except the 4S is easily the most powerful smartphone out there. A5's GPU destroys the Android competition. . . it's literally about twice as fast as its nearest competitor, the Mali 400 in the Galaxy S2.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2

Sure apple just re-used the same external design. I'd hardly call it a minor upgrade though.

Clarification, the GPU in the A5 isn't an Apple designed part. Its PowerVR's SX543MP2, available for any manufacturer to use. The A5 itself is competing on the same level as OMAP4, Exynos, etc. The CPUs perform within ~10% of each other usually.

 

[MrX8503]

Troubling news. Apple pretty much re-released iPhone 4 and it is selling as cakes. Looks like hardware specs do not nearly matter as much as user experience. Google and partners have been very slow with ICS, which was supposed to be an answer.

Troubling news? lol, this isn't the coming of the Apocalypse.

The 4S was easily the most powerful phone when it was released and it still is currently.

 

[Pliablemoose]

LOL, I was convincing a friend Apple stock was a good buy, we walk into our pre op area and immediately see someone using an iPad, and 2 people walked up using their iPhones... I think he believed me

 

[Puddle Jumper]

For instance, I love the Galaxy Note concept, but why in the hell did they give it capacitive buttons and not put ICS on it? Where's the Verizon LTE version? Why in the hell did they put a stylus in it? Why the slow intro into the US market?

They didn't give it ICS for obvious reasons, the software necessary to support the stylus takes time to integrate into Android and they obviously didn't have time to do that and launch the phone on schedule. Besides the phone is excellent on Gingerbread anyways.

The reason it has a stylus should be pretty clear, it is called the Note after all. Besides the stylus was one of the features people like most about it, despite what Steve Jobs thought a stylus can be a great tool to improve productivity.

Surely you of all people know how the U.S. cell market works, there won't be a Verizon LTE version unless Verizon wants one.

Troubling news? lol, this isn't the coming of the Apocalypse.

The 4S was easily the most powerful phone when it was released and it still is currently.

The gpu is fast but the cpu and ram are quite mediocre. I'm surprised the gpu matters so much to Apple fans, becase if so you all must have thought the iPhone 4 was severely underpowered since the Galaxy S had a considerably faster gpu.

 

[smartpatrol]

Clarification, the GPU in the A5 isn't an Apple designed part. Its PowerVR's SX543MP2, available for any manufacturer to use.

Sure, but only Apple has used it so far. No other smartphone (or tablet, for that matter) has even come close to that level of GPU performance. Whether it's because Apple were able to get their SOC into production more quickly, or maybe other SOC manufacturers didn't want to pay the licensing fee for PowerVR's more advanced GPU designs, I don't know. But I still give credit to Apple for putting a ridiculously powerful SOC in their smartphone.

The A5 itself is competing on the same level as OMAP4, Exynos, etc. The CPUs perform within ~10% of each other usually.

The "A5 itself" is a system-on-a-chip, which includes the CPU AND GPU (as well as a bunch of other stuff like radios, IO controllers, etc.)

 

[MrX8503]

The gpu is fast but the cpu and ram are quite mediocre. I'm surprised the gpu matters so much to Apple fans, becase if so you all must have thought the iPhone 4 was severely underpowered since the Galaxy S had a considerably faster gpu.

The overall performance margin from the Galaxy S/iPhone4 wasn't nearly as large as the iPhone 4S. Aside from that, real world performance of the Galaxy S....was...mediocre.

I was impressed by the Hummingbird, don't get me wrong on that. However, people spreading fud about how the 4S not having powerful hardware is completely false

 

[Pliablemoose]

They didn't give it ICS for obvious reasons, the software necessary to support the stylus takes time to integrate into Android and they obviously didn't have time to do that and launch the phone on schedule. Besides the phone is excellent on Gingerbread anyways.

The reason it has a stylus should be pretty clear, it is called the Note after all. Besides the stylus was one of the features people like most about it, despite what Steve Jobs thought a stylus can be a great tool to improve productivity.

Surely you of all people know how the U.S. cell market works, there won't be a Verizon LTE version unless Verizon wants one.

Samsung has enough muscle to do whatever they want.

 

[ponyo]

The overall performance margin from the Galaxy S/iPhone4 wasn't nearly as large as the iPhone 4S. Aside from that, real world performance of the Galaxy S....was...mediocre.

I was impressed by the Hummingbird, don't get me wrong on that. However, people spreading fud about how the 4S not having powerful hardware is completely false

Galaxy S sgx540 was twice as fast as sgx535 in iPhone4. Similar to how it's now except the situation is reversed in Apple's favor.

As for performance, it really only matters in games. And high Res.

Same with screen resolution. Apple had the highest resolution on a phone. Now they don't. What good is all that gpu without the increase resolution? Apple now need bigger screen with higher res to take advantage of that awesome gpu.

 

[Bateluer]

Sure, but only Apple has used it so far. No other smartphone (or tablet, for that matter) has even come close to that level of GPU performance. Whether it's because Apple were able to get their SOC into production more quickly, or maybe other SOC manufacturers didn't want to pay the licensing fee for PowerVR's more advanced GPU designs, I don't know. But I still give credit to Apple for putting a ridiculously powerful SOC in their smartphone.


The "A5 itself" is a system-on-a-chip, which includes the CPU AND GPU (as well as a bunch of other stuff like radios, IO controllers, etc.)

I was referring to just the CPU in the A5 with my statement.

Not sure why others aren't licensing PowerVR's better GPU designs though. Samsung licenses ARM's designs, which are pretty respectable. Hope to see wider licensing and adoption of Nvidia's Tegra 3 part though.