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SlitheryDee

Crying over a rapper getting shot is like crying over the head of marlboro's marketing department dying of lung cancer.
 

JM Aggie08

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: spacejamz
and to think that the youth of this nation idolizes this crap and lifestyle...I weep for the future of this country...

Ya...that's probably what your parents were thinking when your generation brought the world aids. Boy were the 80s a blast!

Yeah, it is exactly the same since aids was intentionally created.

I'm sure when the kid woke up, he had full intentions of being shot.

**Edit** Since when does fcking a chimp seem like a well thought out idea??
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: spacejamz
and to think that the youth of this nation idolizes this crap and lifestyle...I weep for the future of this country...

Ya...that's probably what your parents were thinking when your generation brought the world aids. Boy were the 80s a blast!

that's funny...I dont' remember any 80's music glorfying driveby shootings and the graphic level of violence that we have in today's 'rap music'...

The most controversial rap artist back then was Too Live Crew and they are tame compared what is being made today...

If you can't see the difference 80's music and sh1t that Dolla and his like produce, than there is nothing more to say...
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: spacejamz
and to think that the youth of this nation idolizes this crap and lifestyle...I weep for the future of this country...

Ya...that's probably what your parents were thinking when your generation brought the world aids. Boy were the 80s a blast!

that's funny...I dont' remember any 80's music glorfying driveby shootings and the graphic level of violence that we have in today's 'rap music'...

The most controversial rap artist back then was Too Live Crew and they are tame compared what is being made today...

If you can't see the difference 80's music and sh1t that Dolla and his like produce, than there is nothing more to say...

are you serious?

"gangsta rap" STARTED in the 80's, and some of it glorified cop killing.
 

spacejamz

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Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: spacejamz
and to think that the youth of this nation idolizes this crap and lifestyle...I weep for the future of this country...

Ya...that's probably what your parents were thinking when your generation brought the world aids. Boy were the 80s a blast!

that's funny...I dont' remember any 80's music glorfying driveby shootings and the graphic level of violence that we have in today's 'rap music'...

The most controversial rap artist back then was Too Live Crew and they are tame compared what is being made today...

If you can't see the difference 80's music and sh1t that Dolla and his like produce, than there is nothing more to say...

are you serious?

"gangsta rap" STARTED in the 80's, and some of it glorified cop killing.

yeah, you're probably right...i didn't listen to it back then either...

 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: spacejamz
and to think that the youth of this nation idolizes this crap and lifestyle...I weep for the future of this country...

Ya...that's probably what your parents were thinking when your generation brought the world aids. Boy were the 80s a blast!

that's funny...I dont' remember any 80's music glorfying driveby shootings and the graphic level of violence that we have in today's 'rap music'...

The most controversial rap artist back then was Too Live Crew and they are tame compared what is being made today...

If you can't see the difference 80's music and sh1t that Dolla and his like produce, than there is nothing more to say...

are you serious?

"gangsta rap" STARTED in the 80's, and some of it glorified cop killing.

yeah, you're probably right...i didn't listen to it back then either...

yea and that makes your reply to JM Aggie08 sound even more ignorant than it already did.
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: spacejamz
and to think that the youth of this nation idolizes this crap and lifestyle...I weep for the future of this country...

Ya...that's probably what your parents were thinking when your generation brought the world aids. Boy were the 80s a blast!

that's funny...I dont' remember any 80's music glorfying driveby shootings and the graphic level of violence that we have in today's 'rap music'...

The most controversial rap artist back then was Too Live Crew and they are tame compared what is being made today...

If you can't see the difference 80's music and sh1t that Dolla and his like produce, than there is nothing more to say...

are you serious?

"gangsta rap" STARTED in the 80's, and some of it glorified cop killing.

yeah, you're probably right...i didn't listen to it back then either...

yea and that makes your reply to JM Aggie08 sound even more ignorant than it already did.

whatever dude...hope your kids embrace the thug life and everything that comes with it since you seem to think it is all hunky dory...cheers...
 

joesmoke

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Originally posted by: spacejamz

whatever dude...hope your kids embrace the thug life and everything that comes with it since you seem to think it is all hunky dory...cheers...

what a negative... thuggish... thing to say :laugh: were you threatening him?
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: spacejamz
whatever dude...hope your kids embrace the thug life and everything that comes with it since you seem to think it is all hunky dory...cheers...

where did i say i think it is all hunky dory or that i embrace it?
 

WelshBloke

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Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: spacejamz
and to think that the youth of this nation idolizes this crap and lifestyle...I weep for the future of this country...

Ya...that's probably what your parents were thinking when your generation brought the world aids. Boy were the 80s a blast!

Yeah, it is exactly the same since aids was intentionally created.

I'm sure when the kid woke up, he had full intentions of being shot.

**Edit** Since when does fcking a chimp seem like a well thought out idea??

:confused: what

 

rivan

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Clearly you haven't meet most of ATOT:

1) everyone has advanced degrees
2) everyone makes over 100k a year
3) everyone has model kids. They are taught classical music at the age of 4. Anything rap related in shunned.

But seriously PimpJuice, although I agree with you 100%, it's falling on deaf ears.

I don't have an advanced degree, make over 100k per year or have model kids.

I also don't have gangster tattoos and I don't praise the rap/thug/gangster lifestyle. I don't sing about women as if they're just vaginas and I don't call my friends 'niggaz'. I don't carry a chip on my shoulder everywhere I go to show how hard I am.

I also don't live in the hood, because I've worked my entire life to have my nice little life.

Pimpjuice points out one really good thing: not everyone has the same opportunities. However, it's what you DO with your opportunities that defines who you are. When you choose to "get ahead" by being a thug - robbing, dealing, whatever - then you're perpetuating the shithole, condemning the next generation to grow up the same way.

Instead, have a little pride in yourself. Help clean up your neighborhood, stay in school and learn something. Avoid the gangs. It's not easy, but neither is giving in - and giving in has a far higher price.

As for shunning rap - I actually like the flavor of the music, but the culture that surrounds the uglier end of it, I can do without. Not all rap is created equal, and not all of it's offensive. What I've now seen of his is useless.

I said those things tongue in cheek. But I guess making use of opportunities is subjective. Many people, including this guy I imagine, actually WANT to be rappers. To get signed to a major record deal is kind of a big deal. In that sense, I am not ready to jump to the conclusion that he didn't work hard or didn't make use of his opportunities.

I'm not sure how many people can actually chime in with real life experiences about growing up in poverty in the hood. I think it's difficult to evaluate the totality of the circumstances without that perspective.

I know it was somewhat tongue in cheek, but it made a good segue.

As for not understanding the totality of the challenges of living in the hood, no, I don't. I haven't lived it. But that in no way, shape or form means I'm so uninformed as to preclude educated remarks on the matter.

Facts: if you educate yourself, you'll have a better life. If you're involved in your kid's lives, they'll have better lives. If you take pride in and work to maintain your home and your surroundings, your home and your surroundings will be better. There are real reasons 'the hood' is the way it is and some of them are even beyond the control of those that live there. Many others, however, are totally under the control of the people who live there.

Neighbors causing a scene? Call the cops. Cops not helping? Call city hall. See some trash on the sidewalk, pick it up and throw it away. See someone dealing? Call the cops. Know someone's kid who's buying? Call their parents. Parents don't care? call DFS.

There are lots of things people COULD do to help clean up their neighborhoods and improve the next generation's life. Many times too few people do those things, and end up outnumbered by people who, as Pimpjuice put it "do what they have to do to get ahead."
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: rivan
Facts: if you educate yourself, you'll have a better life. If you're involved in your kid's lives, they'll have better lives. If you take pride in and work to maintain your home and your surroundings, your home and your surroundings will be better. There are real reasons 'the hood' is the way it is and some of them are even beyond the control of those that live there. Many others, however, are totally under the control of the people who live there.

Neighbors causing a scene? Call the cops. Cops not helping? Call city hall. See some trash on the sidewalk, pick it up and throw it away. See someone dealing? Call the cops. Know someone's kid who's buying? Call their parents. Parents don't care? call DFS.

There are lots of things people COULD do to help clean up their neighborhoods and improve the next generation's life. Many times too few people do those things, and end up outnumbered by people who, as Pimpjuice put it "do what they have to do to get ahead."

There's a prevalent atmosphere about "snitches" that doesn't help any. But I can't help but wonder how parents feel about that attitude when their six year old gets shot in a drive-by intended for somebody else.
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
I'm sure when the kid woke up, he had full intentions of being shot.

**Edit** Since when does fcking a chimp seem like a well thought out idea??

Where on Earth did the chimp-fucking comment come from?

-EDIT- Oh, from the AIDS thing, gotcha. I thought you were indicating Dolla was shot because he tried to fuck a chimp. Which would be very strange to say the least.
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: rivan
Facts: if you educate yourself, you'll have a better life. If you're involved in your kid's lives, they'll have better lives. If you take pride in and work to maintain your home and your surroundings, your home and your surroundings will be better. There are real reasons 'the hood' is the way it is and some of them are even beyond the control of those that live there. Many others, however, are totally under the control of the people who live there.

Neighbors causing a scene? Call the cops. Cops not helping? Call city hall. See some trash on the sidewalk, pick it up and throw it away. See someone dealing? Call the cops. Know someone's kid who's buying? Call their parents. Parents don't care? call DFS.

There are lots of things people COULD do to help clean up their neighborhoods and improve the next generation's life. Many times too few people do those things, and end up outnumbered by people who, as Pimpjuice put it "do what they have to do to get ahead."

There's a prevalent atmosphere about "snitches" that doesn't help any. But I can't help but wonder how parents feel about that attitude when their six year old gets shot in a drive-by intended for somebody else.

Calling the cops because someone is dealing on the corner isn't "snitching." "Snitching" is being a police informant, which is different. The snitch must be inside the criminal organization; a concerned parent who informs authorities of criminal activity in her neighborhood is not a snitch in this sense.

Contrary to your assumptions, many residents of poor black communities are concerned with gang violence and drug dealing, and do inform the authorities of illegal activity in their neighborhoods. No one likes to live in a dangerous environment, or raise their children in one...not even black people. :roll:
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: rivan
Facts: if you educate yourself, you'll have a better life. If you're involved in your kid's lives, they'll have better lives. If you take pride in and work to maintain your home and your surroundings, your home and your surroundings will be better. There are real reasons 'the hood' is the way it is and some of them are even beyond the control of those that live there. Many others, however, are totally under the control of the people who live there.

Neighbors causing a scene? Call the cops. Cops not helping? Call city hall. See some trash on the sidewalk, pick it up and throw it away. See someone dealing? Call the cops. Know someone's kid who's buying? Call their parents. Parents don't care? call DFS.

There are lots of things people COULD do to help clean up their neighborhoods and improve the next generation's life. Many times too few people do those things, and end up outnumbered by people who, as Pimpjuice put it "do what they have to do to get ahead."

There's a prevalent atmosphere about "snitches" that doesn't help any. But I can't help but wonder how parents feel about that attitude when their six year old gets shot in a drive-by intended for somebody else.

Calling the cops because someone is dealing on the corner isn't "snitching." "Snitching" is being a police informant, which is different. The snitch must be inside the criminal organization; a concerned parent who informs authorities of criminal activity in her neighborhood is not a snitch in this sense.

Contrary to your assumptions, many residents of poor black communities are concerned with gang violence and drug dealing, and do inform the authorities of illegal activity in their neighborhoods. No one likes to live in a dangerous environment, or raise their children in one...not even black people. :roll:

Yes they do. They told me so. So there. Nyah, nyah, nyah.
 

MercenaryYoureFired

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The kid has tatoos and is a rapper, so therefore some of you are glad he died? You guys realize most rappers are just projecting an image, and they're pretty much normal people, right?

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Another dead rapper?

The more the merrier.

yes, I have an intense hatred for rap and the lifestyle it portrays.


Oh look, a 70 year old CC student, GL on your path to nowhere, jackass.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Calling the cops because someone is dealing on the corner isn't "snitching." "Snitching" is being a police informant, which is different. The snitch must be inside the criminal organization; a concerned parent who informs authorities of criminal activity in her neighborhood is not a snitch in this sense.

That's a debateable point among the "stop snitchin'", uh, movement. According to some adherents, ANY aid given to police is snitchin', since they view all police as corrupt.

 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: n yusef
Calling the cops because someone is dealing on the corner isn't "snitching." "Snitching" is being a police informant, which is different. The snitch must be inside the criminal organization; a concerned parent who informs authorities of criminal activity in her neighborhood is not a snitch in this sense.

That's a debateable point among the "stop snitchin'", uh, movement. According to some adherents, ANY aid given to police is snitchin', since they view all police as corrupt.

Is it really? Are grandmothers who call the cops on some corner boys the victims of retaliation? There may be some social pressures for them not to snitch, but there are no violent penalties for civilians (especially parents) "snitching." At least I haven't heard of them.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
The kid has tatoos and is a rapper, so therefore some of you are glad he died? You guys realize most rappers are just projecting an image, and they're pretty much normal people, right?

Unfortunately, these rappers serve as role models. The image they project is a negative one. The image they project has profound negative effects on a portion of our society. We're better off without them. Good riddance.
 

buck

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
The kid has tatoos and is a rapper, so therefore some of you are glad he died? You guys realize most rappers are just projecting an image, and they're pretty much normal people, right?

Unfortunately, these rappers serve as role models. The image they project is a negative one. The image they project has profound negative effects on a portion of our society. We're better off without them. Good riddance.

If I copied sigs, this would be my new one. :thumbsup: