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masterxfob

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Originally posted by: friedpie
the length of time matters because of the cultural significance. If only six years of your culture was wiped out, although bad, its not near as bad as hundreds of years, and people wonder why African American's in America are in their current state. This stuff happens over long periods of time and has a cyclical affect of degradation.

Black Americans are the richest blacks in the entire world. Their ancestors suffered but they have been able to reap the benefits of that suffering.

Blacks today only suffer because race hustlers have taught them mental anguish. That's what makes Jesse Jackson rich, keeping blacks angry and distrustful, making whites feel guilty. White guilt is pervasive even though less than 10% of the antebellum south ever owned slaves.

You don't see the Irish bitching about the British trying to starve them to death, do you?

damn, that's a pretty stupid comment right there.

it's really quite unbelievable how some people function :confused:
 

stormbv

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Originally posted by: stormbv
I don't think I could choose between the two. What's the point?

Read the post above yours.... Cooltech already mentioned his idiotic point
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Oh...the point was so a moron could have a reason to spew his hateful ignorance. This isn't the first time...I think Cooltech just sits around hoping that someone creates a thread that he can beautifully dumb down.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: stormbv
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: stormbv
I don't think I could choose between the two. What's the point?

Read the post above yours.... Cooltech already mentioned his idiotic point
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Oh...the point was so a moron could have a reason to spew his hateful ignorance. This isn't the first time...I think Cooltech just sits around hoping that someone creates a thread that he can beautifully dumb down.

He created it himself.... Even worse...

Im actually kinda curious where the ignorant a-hole went? I need to get more proof before i call up my jewish-only hotline to inform my media...
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masterxfob

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
You cant use the US Slavery and Hundreds of years in the same sentence. If you meant Protegual, Spain, Fance and the UK, then yep your right on target.

Heres some facts, the first slave to step in to what now is America was in 1609, when the British started to heavily exploit slavery. In 1790 the US had 500,000 slaves, in 1810 the US had 1.1million slaves, in 1860 the US had 3.9million slaves.

In 1833 Canada, under British control, released their final 783,000 slaves. They had many more that gradually were freed starting in the 1800s. Brazil had slaves until 1888. Hell the first internation slave treaty was in 1885 with a second coming in 1890.

People really need to buy a clue. The US may have been the last modern country to abolish slavery, but it no where wreck massive havoc like Britain, France, Spain and Portegual did.

Anyone want to fvcking mention repartitions to this I say, what about the trillions already given to blacks via welfare and special intrest bills passed by congress. Not to mention less than 1/4 of white men owned slaves.

Blacks just need to get off this fvcking self pity.

Was slavery wrong? Yes. Did America do as much damage as CoolTech tries to say? No. The British did the most damage to african culture, followed by Spain, Porteugal, and France.

No American slavery WAS NOT as bad as the extermination of the jews, gypsies and other ethnic groups in WWII. Now world slavery that dates back from the beginning of man till present yes, its far worse than the holocoust. Id even say the British slave trade was far worse than the holocoust, but thats a result of British Imperilisim.

by any chance, do you attend clandestine events wearing white capes and hats?
 

yellowperil

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
You cant use the US Slavery and Hundreds of years in the same sentence.

If what you said about the first slave reaching in America in 1609 is true, "hundreds of years" is still correct because the 13th Amendment and the end of the Civil War occurred in 1865. The data I got from a BBC website said that the first direct shipment of slaves from Africa to the Americas began in 1518.
 

friedpie

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: friedpie
the length of time matters because of the cultural significance. If only six years of your culture was wiped out, although bad, its not near as bad as hundreds of years, and people wonder why African American's in America are in their current state. This stuff happens over long periods of time and has a cyclical affect of degradation.

Black Americans are the richest blacks in the entire world. Their ancestors suffered but they have been able to reap the benefits of that suffering.

Blacks today only suffer because race hustlers have taught them mental anguish. That's what makes Jesse Jackson rich, keeping blacks angry and distrustful, making whites feel guilty. White guilt is pervasive even though less than 10% of the antebellum south ever owned slaves.

You don't see the Irish bitching about the British trying to starve them to death, do you?

damn, that's a pretty stupid comment right there.

it's really quite unbelievable how some people function :confused:

Which comment do you consider stupid, and why?




 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
by any chance, on weekends do you attend events wearing white capes and hats?

Why? Where do get off calling him racist?

if you don't see the hatred in his post, then you're quite the dolt.

other than that, you're UGLY, you have no say in this :p
 

digitalsm

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If what you said about the first slave reaching in America in 1609 is true, "hundreds of years" is still correct because the 13th Amendment and the end of the Civil War occurred in 1865. The data I got from a BBC website said that the first direct shipment of slaves from Africa to the Americas began in 1518.

The British, Spain, France and Proteguese, controlled what is now america until 1876-laterish. To blame the US for slavery from 1609 - 1775, isnt quite fair, niether is saying Canada freed their last 783,000 slaves in 1833 because, yes they were controlled by the UK.

The four european countries are the ones that wrecked massive havoc on african culture through slavery and imperilism. Not the US, the US continued a British/euro tradition an additional 30 years longer than Britain.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
by any chance, on weekends do you attend events wearing white capes and hats?

Why? Where do get off calling him racist?

if you don't see the hatred in his post, then you're quite the dolt.

other than that, you're UGLY, you have no say in this :p

Ugly people are the most discriminated against in the world (no lie), but back on topic. I must be a dolt because I don't see the hatred at all. Maybe you could point it out to me.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: digitalsm
You cant use the US Slavery and Hundreds of years in the same sentence. If you meant Protegual, Spain, Fance and the UK, then yep your right on target.

Heres some facts, the first slave to step in to what now is America was in 1609, when the British started to heavily exploit slavery. In 1790 the US had 500,000 slaves, in 1810 the US had 1.1million slaves, in 1860 the US had 3.9million slaves.

In 1833 Canada, under British control, released their final 783,000 slaves. They had many more that gradually were freed starting in the 1800s. Brazil had slaves until 1888. Hell the first internation slave treaty was in 1885 with a second coming in 1890.

People really need to buy a clue. The US may have been the last modern country to abolish slavery, but it no where wreck massive havoc like Britain, France, Spain and Portegual did.

Anyone want to fvcking mention repartitions to this I say, what about the trillions already given to blacks via welfare and special intrest bills passed by congress. Not to mention less than 1/4 of white men owned slaves.

Blacks just need to get off this fvcking self pity.

Was slavery wrong? Yes. Did America do as much damage as CoolTech tries to say? No. The British did the most damage to african culture, followed by Spain, Porteugal, and France.

No American slavery WAS NOT as bad as the extermination of the jews, gypsies and other ethnic groups in WWII. Now world slavery that dates back from the beginning of man till present yes, its far worse than the holocoust. Id even say the British slave trade was far worse than the holocoust, but thats a result of British Imperilisim.

by any chance, do you attend clandestine events wearing white capes and hats?

why? those are just the facts. cooltechs the one that needs to don a cape.

 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
by any chance, on weekends do you attend events wearing white capes and hats?

Why? Where do get off calling him racist?

if you don't see the hatred in his post, then you're quite the dolt.

other than that, you're UGLY, you have no say in this :p

Ugly people are the most discriminated against in the world (no lie), but back on topic. I must be a dolt because I don't see the hatred at all. Maybe you could point it out to me.

Blacks just need to get off this fvcking self pity.
that statement alone is enough to make me feel that he doesn't particularly like black people. then there's this all to familiar phrase in American History X that was worded quite similarly.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
that statement alone is enough to make me feel that he doesn't particularly like black people. then there's this all to familiar phrase in American History X that was worded quite similarly.


I'd still like to see you respond to the multiple explanaitons that have been requested of you.
 

UglyCasanova

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that statement alone is enough to make me feel that he doesn't particularly like black people. then there's this all to familiar phrase in American History X that was worded quite similarly.

You are way to fvcking sensitive, good lord. I see nothing racist about it, just his opinion about the issue. People are allowed to have opinions and not be racist, aren't they?
 

yellowperil

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
If what you said about the first slave reaching in America in 1609 is true, "hundreds of years" is still correct because the 13th Amendment and the end of the Civil War occurred in 1865. The data I got from a BBC website said that the first direct shipment of slaves from Africa to the Americas began in 1518.

The British, Spain, France and Proteguese, controlled what is now america until 1876-laterish. To blame the US for slavery from 1609 - 1775, isnt quite fair, niether is saying Canada freed their last 783,000 slaves in 1833 because, yes they were controlled by the UK.

The four european countries are the ones that wrecked massive havoc on african culture through slavery and imperilism. Not the US, the US continued a British/euro tradition an additional 30 years longer than Britain.

As long as slaves were on American soil, I would consider that period part of U.S. slavery, as referenced in the title of this thread. Did all the slave holders prior to 1776 give up their slaves and move back to Europe when the Declaration of Independence was signed? I *think* most of them became Americans.
 

ManSnake

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
If what you said about the first slave reaching in America in 1609 is true, "hundreds of years" is still correct because the 13th Amendment and the end of the Civil War occurred in 1865. The data I got from a BBC website said that the first direct shipment of slaves from Africa to the Americas began in 1518.

The British, Spain, France and Proteguese, controlled what is now america until 1876-laterish. To blame the US for slavery from 1609 - 1775, isnt quite fair, niether is saying Canada freed their last 783,000 slaves in 1833 because, yes they were controlled by the UK.

The four european countries are the ones that wrecked massive havoc on african culture through slavery and imperilism. Not the US, the US continued a British/euro tradition an additional 30 years longer than Britain.

So that makes slavery ok? So that makes what our ancestors did better than what Nazi did in WW2?
 

digitalsm

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if you don't see the hatred in his post, then you're quite the dolt.

Im not racist, those are facts from REAL unbiased sources. I have many friend that are other races. And my comment about black people need to get over it, that goes to race baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and their followers.


And if you are black what do you say about your race, enslaving and eating other humans, specifically pygmies? Huh? An entire group of people will go extinct if the world doesnt step in, which sadly isnt likely, even though the pygmies have tried time and time again.

Also the first shipload of slaves that enter the British colonies came in 1619, there might have been black slaves in other parts of what is now america before then. There were native american slaves well before black slaves, but they largely fought back and the european countries started going after african slaves.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
by any chance, on weekends do you attend events wearing white capes and hats?

Why? Where do get off calling him racist?

if you don't see the hatred in his post, then you're quite the dolt.

other than that, you're UGLY, you have no say in this :p

I agree with his post quite fully, actually. Learn your history before you accept the crap thrown at you by people inundated with white guilt.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
No question, the holocaust.

The US isn't special in having slavery. A good number of current and former powers have had slavery at one point or another.

the question isnt whether other cultures had slavery, its the comparison of U.S. Slavery with the Holocaust. Don't get the question twisted

It's not twisting the question.

your taking the question out of context.

Where would slaver have been without a world Slave trade?? Where would slavery have been without Africans hunting other tribes down so they can capture them and sell them?

If it weren't africans enslaved it would have been another group of people.

What is worse is a relative question.

because slavery was common during the time of american slavery it isn't as heinous an act. Genocide was not as common during the 20th century as slavery was during the 18th century.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
by any chance, on weekends do you attend events wearing white capes and hats?

Why? Where do get off calling him racist?

if you don't see the hatred in his post, then you're quite the dolt.

other than that, you're UGLY, you have no say in this :p

I agree with his post quite fully, actually. Learn your history before you accept the crap thrown at you by people inundated with white guilt.

So what are the facts, the truth. What is incorrect in his post? I'm not saying he is telling the truth, I don't know the numbers so I couldn't tell ya. If you would like to offer some insight on the subject I'm all ears.
 

digitalsm

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So that makes slavery ok? So that makes what our ancestors did better than what Nazi did in WW2?

No it doesnt. Slavery is wrong and is still wrong where its still practiced.

My point is, it was the european countries that wrecked havoc on african culture. The US did too, however, everyone that goes on about how bad US slavery was needs educated, there wouldnt have been slavery in America if it wasnt for those four countries. The British Empire wrecked havoc all over the world, and their slavery was by far worse than any other country, why dont people bash the British's sordid past, or the other three.

Ive seen countless US Slavery threads on here. Never a one about those four countries or Canada, or any other country that was just as bad as the US or gasp WORSE. The african slaves shipped off to the middle east had it far worse than "american" slaves. Why dont we talk about Eygpts slaves, or slaves in what now are other middle eastern countries. They all go up till the mid 1800s too.
 

LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: digitalsm
You cant use the US Slavery and Hundreds of years in the same sentence. If you meant Protegual, Spain, Fance and the UK, then yep your right on target.

Heres some facts, the first slave to step in to what now is America was in 1609, when the British started to heavily exploit slavery. In 1790 the US had 500,000 slaves, in 1810 the US had 1.1million slaves, in 1860 the US had 3.9million slaves.

In 1833 Canada, under British control, released their final 783,000 slaves. They had many more that gradually were freed starting in the 1800s. Brazil had slaves until 1888. Hell the first internation slave treaty was in 1885 with a second coming in 1890.

People really need to buy a clue. The US may have been the last modern country to abolish slavery, but it no where wreck massive havoc like Britain, France, Spain and Portegual did.

Anyone want to fvcking mention repartitions to this I say, what about the trillions already given to blacks via welfare and special intrest bills passed by congress. Not to mention less than 1/4 of white men owned slaves.

Blacks just need to get off this fvcking self pity.

Was slavery wrong? Yes. Did America do as much damage as CoolTech tries to say? No. The British did the most damage to african culture, followed by Spain, Porteugal, and France.

No American slavery WAS NOT as bad as the extermination of the jews, gypsies and other ethnic groups in WWII. Now world slavery that dates back from the beginning of man till present yes, its far worse than the holocoust. Id even say the British slave trade was far worse than the holocoust, but thats a result of British Imperilisim.

by any chance, do you attend clandestine events wearing white capes and hats?

How do you get that from what he wrote?? he is SUPPORTING JEWS, when is the last time a white cap wearing clandestine meeting individual did that?

Get a fvcking clue before you type moron.