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2018 mid-term forecast

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umbrella39 said:
The left doesn't have to buy poor people off. Poor people seldom vote in the first place and in the rare instance that they do of course they would vote for the party of exclusion and hatred who at every turn rubs their face in the fact they are poor!

No... the poor oppressed white, male, conservative, Christians.... They are the TRUE victims. We must make them a protected class before they all melt.

It's amazing they can even type out their whimpers with the limp wrists God has blessed them with...
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I'm not a conservative Christian and I'm not a fan of conservative Christians. But despite the conservative Christians flaws, today the left is the side that has jumped the shark. If you would have asked me 10 years ago, I'd say the conservative Christians WERE the problem. But then the liberals had a "hold my beer" moment once Trump won and their bubble came crashing down on them.
 
SlowSpyder said:
I'm not a conservative Christian and I'm not a fan of conservative Christians. But despite the conservative Christians flaws, today the left is the side that has jumped the shark. If you would have asked me 10 years ago, I'd say the conservative Christians WERE the problem. But then the liberals had a "hold my beer" moment once Trump won and their bubble came crashing down on them.
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The left has jumped the shark....

So, what do you call organizing and marching on monuments to slavery wielding tiki torches and chanting Nazi slogans of racial purity? What do you call constant and unapologetic violence, purposefully murdering protesters with your car because you, the actual winners of this whole election thing, still consider yourselves the eternally-threatened victims?

that is actually the right, today. What do you call that?
 
zinfamous said:
The left has jumped the shark....

So, what do you call organizing and marching on monuments to slavery wielding tiki torches and chanting Nazi slogans of racial purity? What do you call constant and unapologetic violence, purposefully murdering protesters with your car because you, the actual winners of this whole election thing, still consider yourselves the eternally-threatened victims?

that is actually the right, today. What do you call that?
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and don't forget that the president was tacitly supporting these groups.
 
zinfamous said:
The left has jumped the shark....

So, what do you call organizing and marching on monuments to slavery wielding tiki torches and chanting Nazi slogans of racial purity? What do you call constant and unapologetic violence, purposefully murdering protesters with your car because you, the actual winners of this whole election thing, still consider yourselves the eternally-threatened victims?

that is actually the right, today. What do you call that?
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How big are these Nazi groups, how much damage are they causing compared to Antifa? Today it seems Antifa is the real Nazis. I can be anti-Nazi and anti-Antifa, it isn't binary. That doesn't change how far gone the left, generally speaking, has become.
 
SlowSpyder said:
How big are these Nazi groups, how much damage are they causing compared to Antifa? Today it seems Antifa is the real Nazis. I can be anti-Nazi and anti-Antifa, it isn't binary. That doesn't change how far gone the left, generally speaking, has become.
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you make statements of certainty without any real numbers. Do you honestly think antifa is the real threat, that their numbers are greater?

prove it, dickhole. Let's see, how many people have antifa killed? How about your nazis? How many have they killed?
 
zinfamous said:
you make statements of certainty without any real numbers. Do you honestly think antifa is the real threat, that their numbers are greater?

prove it, dickhole. Let's see, how many people have antifa killed? How about your nazis? How many have they killed?
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Provide the numbers, let's compare. How many neighborhoods have been looted and windows broken between the two hate groups? How many violent acts? Are there any numbers that capture that? I doubt there is anything accurate. But it seems to me today that the bigger threat is Antifa.

And once again you show how today's liberals communicate. Don't agree with someone? Call them a dickhole. This is because your positions are issues are emotionally held and not based on logic. When you hold a position on emotion, any challenge to it is seen as an attack on who you are. You are basically holding on to liberalism like religion.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Provide the numbers, let's compare. How many neighborhoods have been looted and windows broken between the two hate groups? How many violent acts? Are there any numbers that capture that? I doubt there is anything accurate. But it seems to me today that the bigger threat is Antifa.

And once again you show how today's liberals communicate. Don't agree with someone? Call them a dickhole. This is because your positions are issues are emotionally held and not based on logic. When you hold a position on emotion, any challenge to it is seen as an attack on who you are. You are basically holding on to liberalism like religion.
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This stuff has been tirelessly posted for you, over and over and over and over again. But you don't give a shit. You really don't.

It's all fake news to you. Confirmation bias is all you care about. ignore the actual numbers, because only feels matter. When you can't win on feels, you demand numbers. When the numbers upset you, you return to feels.

Again. here are the numbers.

....again. Read, you ignorant sockpuppet.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/CR_5154_25YRS RightWing Terrorism_V5.pdf
https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255619/fact-check-is-left-wing-violence-rising
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year
http://www.newsweek.com/homegrown-terrorism-rising-threat-right-wing-extremism-619724
https://www.thenation.com/article/why-does-the-far-right-hold-a-near-monopoly-on-political-violence/


wow, 300 attacks by your people, per year? I doubt antifa has that kind of rage. Fact is, you have to go back to the 1970s to find any real significant data and acts of leftists terrorist groups. What you have is your daily pants-shitting over the legitimate anger that your childish decisions have dragged this country into. Of course people are angry, but leftists still aren't killing people like you are. That's a fucking fact, and you constantly avoid this. So like, 4 recent months of rising anger on the left, to you, is suddenly an epidemic of leftwing violence. Ignore the decades of constant threats and terror by your chosen hate groups, point to the provoked anger and legal protests of the majority left-leaning people in this country, and the negligible handful of antifa nutbags.

One thing is certain: you will refuse to read and educate yourself, as always, preferring instead the comforting warmth of the piss pooling up and running down your pants legs. This is what an enlarged amygdala has done for you. Critical thinking is just way too hard. Fear is the instant gratification that you crave--as long as your dear leaders keep you fed.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Yea, the left is so peaceful. You have words, I have video of the left doing these things. And Nazis are not "my people". Both Antifa and Nazis are ignorant hate groups and should be treated as such.

More.

More.

More.

More.

More.
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I have numbers. I don't have words. I have numbers. Data

You don't have data. Data actually matters. It's quantitative. You have video. Video is demonstrably irrelevant when trying to make an argument of quantification. The only way for you to jump into this argument is to change the rules. To deny the time-tested methods and rules of evidence-based argument.

You define these methods as "Stacked against you" for some nonsense reason, then move forward. This is why you are in the minority, and this is why you shit your pants every day. You simply don't understand how facts work. How evidence works.

When confronted with evidence, you responded with incidentals. You refuse to understand how worthless that is. You utterly refuse. Until you have actual data, you have nothing.

How about a video of Timothy McVeigh wiping out 200+ people in one go? How about that? Hell, there's a video that wipes out all of your individual videos, but I didn't post it. Why? Because it isn't really quantified data.
 
bshole said:
Actually a better form of argumentation is through data. You are using anecdotes which is among the least valid forms of argumentation. Statistics matter.
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He's clearly demonstrated he has no understanding of statistics.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Some people have been fooled by the left into a perpetual situation of treading water, living off the government, treated like they cannot make it on their own so the left tries to buy their votes with social programs. The left is the real racists, handicapping some races for the sake of others. The left is saying some people are inferior and need government help. The left has become the new conservatives. Holding on to outdated racist policies, the counter culture cannot be mainstream, too.
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You simultaneously whine that whites have it harder because they don't get equal access to these programs while simultaneously baselessly claiming these programs are holding minorities back. Make up your mind. Are whites disadvantaged because they don't get access to these programs but are superior to blacks and so they overcome that systematic bias or are blacks disadvantaged because of these programs, and these programs further increase the societal barriers faced by blacks. You really should figure out your position on this.
 
mect said:
You simultaneously whine that whites have it harder because they don't get equal access to these programs while simultaneously baselessly claiming these programs are holding minorities back. Make up your mind. Are whites disadvantaged because they don't get access to these programs but are superior to blacks and so they overcome that systematic bias or are blacks disadvantaged because of these programs, and these programs further increase the societal barriers faced by blacks. You really should figure out your position on this.
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Where did I say white people don't have access to these programs? There are plenty of white peopled duped into this lifestyle too. But it seems some minorities have been pushed into this dead end direction by the left in large numbers. The left is effectively saying some demographics are lesser people and need a handicap.
 
mect said:
He's clearly demonstrated he has no understanding of statistics.
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I understand statistics just fine. But you guys have tunnel vision and think things happen in a vacuum. Let's talk about things since Trump got elected by the people of America, when Hillary Clinton was rejected. Since then leftist violence has gone through the roof. A year plus long temper tantrum by toddlers.

By the way, do we agree second hand smoke kills significantly more innocent people (roughly 5x as many) than guns? That's what the statistics say.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Where did I say white people don't have access to these programs? There are plenty of white peopled duped into this lifestyle too. But it seems some minorities have been pushed into this dead end direction by the left in large numbers. The left is effectively saying some demographics are lesser people and need a handicap.
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50% of home health care/child care/fast food workers are on public assistance. A growing percentage of the total available jobs are McJobs that are impossible to live on. If you really care about this issue, support raising the minimum wage.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Where did I say white people don't have access to these programs? There are plenty of white peopled duped into this lifestyle too. But it seems some minorities have been pushed into this dead end direction by the left in large numbers. The left is effectively saying some demographics are lesser people and need a handicap.
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No they’re saying some demographics have not had the same advantages that others have had for decades, they’re trying to makeup for this. Of course someone else will lose in this “correction”, not everyone “wins”.
 
soundforbjt said:
No they’re saying same demographics have not had the same advantages that others have had for decades, they’re trying to makeup for this. Of course someone else will lose in this “correction”, not everyone “wins”.
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Right, the left is supporting racism to combat racism, then cannot comprehend how there is backlash for that and it isn't really working.
 
bshole said:
50% of home health care/child care/fast food workers are on public assistance. A growing percentage of the total available jobs are McJobs that are impossible to live on. If you really care about this issue, support raising the minimum wage.
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Then what happens when minimum wage raises? Prices of everything that use minimum wage workers raises. Minimum wage might be an outdated idea today.

My company has had dozens of technical jobs open for months looking for candidates. In many cases people want to coast through life and not work to achieve. Good paying jobs are just a CCNA away, you can train for that on Youtube for free.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Let's talk about things since Trump got elected by the people of America, when Hillary Clinton was rejected. Since then leftist violence has gone through the roof. A year plus long temper tantrum by toddlers.
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What was the left wing violence statistics before Trump was elected and what are they now? You need to know that assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Assertions are not evidence.
 
bshole said:
What was the left wing violence statistics before Trump was elected and what are they now? You need to know that assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Assertions are not evidence.
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Before Trump was elected, how many stories of Antifa destroying neighborhoods were there? I'm not jumping through AT P&N's hoops. Especially today when it seems every source and media outlet has an agenda.
 
SlowSpyder said:
I understand statistics just fine. But you guys have tunnel vision and think things happen in a vacuum. Let's talk about things since Trump got elected by the people of America, when Hillary Clinton was rejected. Since then leftist violence has gone through the roof. A year plus long temper tantrum by toddlers.

By the way, do we agree second hand smoke kills significantly more innocent people (roughly 5x as many) than guns? That's what the statistics say.
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So where are your statistics for Antifa, coward?
 
SlowSpyder said:
I've had friends on Facebook post things saying if you voted for or support Trump they'll no longer be friends with you on FB or in real life. People I've known for years. Many Trump supporters keep quiet about it. On just this very board I've been called many insulting names and labeled a racist for supporting Trump and disagreeing with leftist totalitarian policies.
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Well that's a reflection of how awful a person you have to be to vote for a goddamned reality TV star who also happens to be a pathological liar that puts ordinary politicians to shame when it comes to dishonesty. I love my parents dearly but I will never forgive them for voting for this trash. Doesn't mean I won't talk to them or anything but they are blood. Unknown riff raff on fucking facebook? Nope.
 
soundforbjt said:
Where’s the backlash except from conservatives? And who says it really isn’t working?
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You are surprised that those who benefit from programs like affirmative action aren't speaking out against it? I've literally been picked over for less qualified people because I am a white male. I am a victim of institutionalized racism (or in this case sexism, I guess). But no one cares if people are racist to me, that is the social norm. What good will complaining do?
 
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