20 Years and it all goes to s*. Climate Change. Hossenfelder.

[nakedfrog]

Not as far as I know. It's an extraordinary amount of work. We're not big on doing extraordinary amounts of work. We'd rather suffer the consequences.

Shareholder value uber alles.
Current shareholders, that is, fuck those guys in a couple decades, we wet the bed, they can lie in it.

 

[Muse]

I know I’m being flippant, but can’t we just plant new trees/vegetation when permafrost melts and offset the greenhouse gases? Trump: “Do that and sweep the floors to prevent wildfires. Problem solved!”

I know a guy (Alex Carlin) who maintains that nurturing ocean algae (plankton) can solve the GWC. He presents at conferences and advocates this (I don't know what he's doing now, I suppose he's still promoting this). Said projects getting this going were being developed. I interviewed him on my college radio show 3 years ago.

Link
He's pretty optimistic. Uh 2025??? Check this out, his projection for 2055:

 

[Muse]

Sobering assessment:

The Tipping Points of Climate Change — and Where We Stand | Johan Rockström | TED - Google Suche

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Record Global Emissions Put Warming on Track for ‘Catastrophic’ 2.6-3.1°C, UN Warns

Governments’ current climate policies and promises have the world on track for “catastrophic” average global warming of 2.6° to 3.1°C, and the odds of limiting global heating to the 1.5°C target in the Paris climate agreement are rapidly shrinking toward zero, the United Nations Environment...

www.theenergymix.com

Summary:

Governments’ current climate policies and promises have the world on track for “catastrophic” average global warming of 2.6° to 3.1°C, and the odds of limiting global heating to the 1.5°C target in the Paris climate agreement are rapidly shrinking toward zero, the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) warns in the latest edition of its annual Emissions Gap Report.

While “it remains technically possible to cut emissions in line with a 1.5°C pathway,” the document adds, delivering on that potential “would require immediate global mobilization on a scale and pace only ever seen following a global conflict.”

The report traces much of the emissions gap to countries that adopted “globally insufficient” emission reduction pledges for 2030, then failed even to meet those targets. Seven of the G20 countries—China, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, and Türkiye—have not yet peaked their emissions, an initial threshold seen as a “prerequisite to reaching net-zero”.

These and other failures add up to a large emissions gap compared to the trajectories that would be needed to hold average global warming to 1.5° or even 2°C, UNEP states.

 

[biostud]

Remember to throw this little bit of fun into the equation when moving to Greenland.

Why is the Atlantic Ocean current collapsing, and can it cause global cooling?

Explore the implications of the weakening Gulf Stream on weather patterns, and how increased freshwater from melting Arctic ice is affecting this crucial ocean current.

www.severe-weather.eu

 

[jdubs03]

Weird how that article came out 2 months after the UNEP report released. Not sure what they were waiting for.

But in terms of content, I wouldn’t expect to see much change in subsequent UNEP reports (or other orgs that release them). The only near term change will be our increased understanding of the climate system (the actual atmospheric/oceanic physics and bio-geochemistry) and how emissions will impact that. I suspect CMIP7 and the IPCC AR7 will be the next milestones for this.

In terms of actually reducing emissions. We’ve got a long way to go. We need to see peak emissions first, then a move to drive it down. It’s the only way we can avoid 2.7C of warming.

 

[jdubs03]

Following up, here’s an article that discusses 2023 and 2024 warming:

Earth shattered heat records in 2023 and 2024: is global warming speeding up?

Nature examines whether the temperature spike is a blip or an enduring — and concerning — trend.

www.nature.com

And here’s a good analysis of longer-term warming based on the various forcings that determine the amount and rate of warming.

Exploring the drivers of modern global warming

By using a simple climate model, we can disentangle greenhouse gases, aerosols, and natural forcings.

www.theclimatebrink.com

 

[hal2kilo]

I know a guy (Alex Carlin) who maintains that nurturing ocean algae (plankton) can solve the GWC. He presents at conferences and advocates this (I don't know what he's doing now, I suppose he's still promoting this). Said projects getting this going were being developed. I interviewed him on my college radio show 3 years ago.

Link
He's pretty optimistic. Uh 2025??? Check this out, his projection for 2055:

Ah, it's like remembering my young fantasy of living on a commune growing algae in shallow tanks to sell to pharmaceutical companies. Acid is a hell of a drug.

 

[Zorba]

It also grows phenomenally fast. It's not quite as good as seaweed for converting atmospheric (well, hydrospheric i guess) co2 into physical form but it's really good. Grow it, till it, compress it into bricks and bake the moisture out, seal it, bury it. Do about 1.5T tons of it and we'll be looking a lot better.

Problem is you have to have a market for it. That market should be driven by massive carbon taxes. But of course, we'd rather watch the world burn than hurt quarterly profits.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Problem is you have to have a market for it. That market should be driven by massive carbon taxes. But of course, we'd rather watch the world burn than hurt quarterly profits.

Ayup. The 'market' has to be the govt paying farmers to do it rather than grow food/corn.

 

[cytg111]

Omfg can we get some good news soon?

 

[sandorski]

There's Grant money in Carbon Capture Research.

 

[Muse]

There's Grant money in Carbon Capture Research.

It looks to be our best hope absent the political will to stop burning fossil fuels. The goddamn asshole who will be sworn in as POTUS in 10 days, often called the most powerful person on earth, is chanting drill baby drill. Heaven forfend. There has to be a bulldozer with his name on it.

 

[cytg111]

Speaking on Greenland and opening trade routes around those paths, at some point there will so heavy investments in the future of climate change that there will be economic forces to prevent anti measures.

 

[MrSquished]

Filing up at $2.69 today. Thanks Trump!

 

[brycejones]

Filing up at $2.69 today. Thanks Trump!

No thank Trump when it’s back to $.38 because the economy has crashed.

 

[Jaskalas]

Not sure the study has any actual new information, but it's a decent recap affirming where we stand.

PSA, the Oceans be cooking, and Climate Change go brrrrr.
Higher, Further, Faster baby.

Finally, an answer to why Earth’s oceans have been on a record hot streak​

A new study finds that the rate of ocean warming has more than quadrupled over the past 40 years — and pinpoints why.​

 

[Muse]

So, Trumpie EO's the USDA to remove all reference to climate change. Farmers' were using that functionality to plan their enterprises. No more.

 

[ch33zw1z]

E&E News: Big banks predict catastrophic warming, with profit potential

Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan and an international banking group have quietly concluded that climate change will likely exceed the Paris Agreement's 2 degree goal.

subscriber.politicopro.com

Oof, big banks planning for the worst

 

[cytg111]

E&E News: Big banks predict catastrophic warming, with profit potential

Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan and an international banking group have quietly concluded that climate change will likely exceed the Paris Agreement's 2 degree goal.

subscriber.politicopro.com

Oof, big banks planning for the worst

Yup. Sad to say I lost hope as well. Best thing we can do now is hope for a carbon capture breakthrough miracle. But even if that was in the cards, I am not convinced that we wouldnt try shut it down cause there be massive investments into that geological future where shit is burning. Probably got something to do with Greenland as well. Capitalism is gonna fuck over everything. Maybe Thanos was right.

 

[DZero]

Now building a bunker will be a must for the richest ones.

 

[cytg111]

Now building a bunker will be a must for the richest ones.

Destabilizing Russia to the point it breaks a part buy cheap land in Siberia for your family's legacy.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Now building a bunker will be a must for the richest ones.

They better have food to last two generations. The way things are going, pretty soon a witchhunt is gonna start worldwide. A rich person who does not give back to the community and instead wants to enslave them, is not a very popular rich person (and won't last too long).

 

[cytg111]

Is AI at a point where we can ask it for solutions? Pretty sure the answer is Thanos.

 

[DZero]

Destabilizing Russia to the point it breaks a part buy cheap land in Siberia for your family's legacy.

Not that easy. China would take that land pretty fast and build tons of weapon factories. The only continent to survive? Antarctica.