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Muse

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Christ, I'm sorry. I've not been everywhere, but I've never seen anywhere flood like Texas. More than a half inch and the dirt just sloughs it off like concrete.
My DJ DNA...

That's a jaw dropping performance.

Here's a 30 years guitar teacher making a video of his reactions in watching that performance for the first time.

 
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Christ, I'm sorry. I've not been everywhere, but I've never seen anywhere flood like Texas. More than a half inch and the dirt just sloughs it off like concrete.
Depends on where in Texas. I’m on the gulf coast and we can take a foot of rain with just street flooding. But then again we are near sea level and the water doesn’t have far to go.

Up in the hillier country those valleys and rivers flood fast.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Christ, I'm sorry. I've not been everywhere, but I've never seen anywhere flood like Texas. More than a half inch and the dirt just sloughs it off like concrete.
Our storms are crazy here too. My favorite teacher was from the Bay Area and told me I'd have a big culture shock moving to LA for school from San Antonio, but really the only thing that surprised me is there you just get slow all day rain while I was so used to rain mostly coming from violent thunderstorms that would drop 4 inches in an hour easy.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Depends on where in Texas. I’m on the gulf coast and we can take a foot of rain with just street flooding. But then again we are near sea level and the water doesn’t have far to go.

Up in the hillier country those valleys and rivers flood fast.
San Antonio is pretty freaking bad with flooding. Just had a bunch of people killed out here 3-4 weeks ago from a flash flood on Perrin-Beitel Rd right by 410. Heard some of them were swept off the access road on 410.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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Our storms are crazy here too. My favorite teacher was from the Bay Area and told me I'd have a big culture shock moving to LA for school from San Antonio, but really the only thing that surprised me is there you just get slow all day rain while I was so used to rain mostly coming from violent thunderstorms that would drop 4 inches in an hour easy.
Growing up in Los Angeles there used to be maybe one all day steady rainstorm a year. I really liked those because it was different. Average rainfall was maybe 14 inches/year. Those 4 inches an hour thunderstorms are terrific, exciting. We had occasional thunderstorms but they were rare. They're rare here in northern CA too. I have experienced only one big thunderstorm in my life maybe. That was in Montana where we were for just a few days.
 

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San Antonio is pretty freaking bad with flooding. Just had a bunch of people killed out here 3-4 weeks ago from a flash flood on Perrin-Beitel Rd right by 410. Heard some of them were swept off the access road on 410.
I grew up outside of Dallas, we had a lot of flooding during our random spring/fall storms. I've seen storm drain lids thrown in the air, underpasses completely flooded with like 10-15' of water. Bananas.

We even had nearby rivers, the rainwater just couldn't find 'em.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Growing up in Los Angeles there used to be maybe one all day steady rainstorm a year. I really liked those because it was different. Average rainfall was maybe 14 inches/year. Those 4 inches an hour thunderstorms are terrific, exciting. We had occasional thunderstorms but they were rare. They're rare here in northern CA too. I have experienced only one big thunderstorm in my life maybe. That was in Montana where we were for just a few days.
Weird, my experience in LA in the 00s was that half of February would be slow all day drizzle and then almost no rain outside of that time.
 
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So, NOAA gets slashed and burned and the TX forecasts were wildly wrong. Now, TX is expecting an almost non-existent FEMA to come to their aid.

Maybe people should start blaming the policy origins for their horrific results.
 

DZero

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So, NOAA gets slashed and burned and the TX forecasts were wildly wrong. Now, TX is expecting an almost non-existent FEMA to come to their aid.

Maybe people should start blaming the policy origins for their horrific results.
They won't, the issue? as long are not rich, this is game over. The rich ones will overtake ALL the damaged places of the affected ones and if a family is wiped out... it's "free".
 

fskimospy

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So, NOAA gets slashed and burned and the TX forecasts were wildly wrong. Now, TX is expecting an almost non-existent FEMA to come to their aid.

Maybe people should start blaming the policy origins for their horrific results.
Apparently the NOAA forecasts were accurate and Texas officials are just lying about it to cover their asses.

Reminds me of that big freeze a while back where instead of admitting their fossil fuel infrastructure broke they chose to lie instead and blame renewables.
 

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Apparently the NOAA forecasts were accurate and Texas officials are just lying about it to cover their asses.

Reminds me of that big freeze a while back where instead of admitting their fossil fuel infrastructure broke they chose to lie instead and blame renewables.

If there is one constant I recall from my time in TX it is all the lying that happens whenever there is some occurrence that the state or local government dropped the ball on. It's always somebody else's fault. Which I guess is really the core belief of modern day "conservatism".
 
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cytg111

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If there is one constant I recall from my time in TX it is all the lying that happens whenever there is some occurrence that the state or local government dropped the ball on. It's always somebody else's fault. Which I guess is really the core belief of modern day "conservatism".
So. Russia.
 

DZero

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Apparently the NOAA forecasts were accurate and Texas officials are just lying about it to cover their asses.

Reminds me of that big freeze a while back where instead of admitting their fossil fuel infrastructure broke they chose to lie instead and blame renewables.
This is so communist like.
 

Pens1566

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Apparently the NOAA forecasts were accurate and Texas officials are just lying about it to cover their asses.

Reminds me of that big freeze a while back where instead of admitting their fossil fuel infrastructure broke they chose to lie instead and blame renewables.

I haven't seen any info about the forecasts being accurate. Not saying you're wrong. Do you have a link/etc?
 
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fskimospy

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I haven't seen any info about the forecasts being accurate. Not saying you're wrong. Do you have a link/etc?
From what I’ve read NOAA gave repeated flood warnings but it’s true I haven’t seen an authoritative source saying they were right.
 

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Weird, my experience in LA in the 00s was that half of February would be slow all day drizzle and then almost no rain outside of that time.
Then it's gotten drier. My experience was 50s and 60s. Probably close to nothing more than an inch/hour, almost no gigantic thunderstorm action, just once a year all day steady rain, not just a drizzle, you could hear it all day but it was no deluge. I loved that because mostly the weather was pretty monotonously the same, just temperature variation by the season.
 

DZero

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Insane RWNJ politician, says the Texas flood is fake.


"Taylor, whose X bio reads: “Christian. Georgian. MAGA. Jesus, Guns & Babies,” also notes that she’s a candidate for Congress in 2026."
There are 3 big lies on that part. Also, seems that saying that would trigger the republicans. Trumpist thinks that USA is Russia now, but forgets that the republicans are about to show the harsh reality of them.
 
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Apparently the NOAA forecasts were accurate and Texas officials are just lying about it to cover their asses.

Reminds me of that big freeze a while back where instead of admitting their fossil fuel infrastructure broke they chose to lie instead and blame renewables.
Some people on social media have pointed out that Texas officials are huge fans of "blue alerts", dramatically overuse them, and likely leads to people turning off cellular alerts.

From reading the NOAA/NWS accounts, it does seem like the local people are trying to pass the buck for their slow response:

“The Weather Service was on the ball,” Vagasky says. “They were getting the message out.”

But as local outlet KXAN first reported, it appears that the first flood warnings posted from safety officials to the public were sent out on Facebook at 5am, hours after the NWS issued its warning.
 

dank69

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To reiterate why....
This is the "break glass in case of climate tipping point" moment for the planet. Additional human contribution is no longer needed for a Green House earth.

this process could double current atmospheric CO₂ concentrations
Choo choo motherfuckers.
 

hal2kilo

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Weird, my experience in LA in the 00s was that half of February would be slow all day drizzle and then almost no rain outside of that time.
Lived real close to the Santa Ana river for a while, behind the Orange County Jail is a golf course that straddles that river (basically a 30ft wide by about 15 feet deep cement paved drain) I saw it completely flooded 2 years in a row in 2000 and 2001.
 
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To reiterate why....
This is the "break glass in case of climate tipping point" moment for the planet. Additional human contribution is no longer needed for a Green House earth.

this process could double current atmospheric CO₂ concentrations
At some stage Musk will have a point, cause it WILL be easier to terraform Mars than Earth.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Some people on social media have pointed out that Texas officials are huge fans of "blue alerts", dramatically overuse them, and likely leads to people turning off cellular alerts.

From reading the NOAA/NWS accounts, it does seem like the local people are trying to pass the buck for their slow response:

Yeah those are bullshit

 
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