2 NYPD cops ambushed, shot in head

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Svnla

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If your excuse for police arrests of minorities at rates much greater than their propensity to commit crimes is "well they were there anyway", I hope you realize what a horrible excuse that would be.

African-Americans were the subjects of 56% of the stops and were 65% of the violent-crime suspects identified by alleged victims, according to the NYPD data. Hispanics were the subjects of 30% of stops and were 27% of violent-crime suspects......

Mr. Kelly said African-Americans represented 53% of those stopped by the NYPD. "So really, African-Americans are being under stopped in relation to the percentage of people being described as being the perpetrators of violent crime," Mr. Kelly said. "The stark reality is that crime happens in communities of color. They are being disproportionately victimized."

Darn Asians, not keeping it real in da hood, yo.

I am pretty sure blacks and hispanics are not 65% and 27% of New York population.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323372504578467361507997492
 
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bshole

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Tell me you condemn this horrible murder without any buts or ifs. Tell me you are horrified by this completely unjustified murder of two people who have completely fucking zero to do with michael brown amd eric garner..
I will do that gladly. Unfortunately incidents like this are not all that surprising given the injustice with regards to the choke killing of an unarmed man. In this sick man's mind, he felt he was righting an injustice. Unfortunately justice is never served by killing two innocent men, it just isn't.
 

ivwshane

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I'm guessing sharpton, crump, and jesse will be absent in the criticizations.

Well what do you know!

In a statement, activist the Rev. Al Sharpton said the Garner family was outraged by news of the shootings.

"Any use of the names of Eric Garner and Michael Brown, in connection with any violence or killing of police, is reprehensible and against the pursuit of justice in both cases," the statement said. "We have stressed at every rally and march that anyone engaged in any violence is an enemy to the pursuit of justice for Eric Garner and Michael Brown..."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/20/us/new-york-police-officers-shot/index.html?c=&page=0


It's funny when I search for something on the internet and a talking point like the above poster made can be found on almost every right wing, pro gun, pro police, conspiracy nut website.
 
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TreVader

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Wow that is fucked up. Gotta say I am not surprised at all. When that white guy ambushed two cops and killed one I thought "this won't be the last"...



It's sad, but certainly not surprising considering the way cops act.


How many times did the cops think they could beat and abuse and murder the public, before they fight back with violence ?


I say sucks for him. Then I change the channel
 

mizzou

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Wow that is fucked up. Gotta say I am not surprised at all. When that white guy ambushed two cops and killed one I thought "this won't be the last"...



It's sad, but certainly not surprising considering the way cops act.


How many times did the cops think they could beat and abuse and murder the public, before they fight back with violence ?


I say sucks for him. Then I change the channel

Boy we need to start tagging domestic terrorists here apparently. Someone dying (even negligently)while resisting arrest is reason to murder innocent and completely unrelated people. What the fuck?
 

TreVader

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Boy we need to start tagging domestic terrorists here apparently. Someone dying while resisting arrest is reason to murder innocent and completely unrelated people. What the fuck?


Hey all I gotta say is you LEOs favorite saying when you murder people:



Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! And what a stupid prize these cops won.
 

Svnla

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Hey all I gotta say is you LEOs favorite saying when you murder people:



Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! And what a stupid prize these cops won.

Maybe I missed the stories about LEOs walked up and blew up people brain for no reason as the guy in this thread did. Care to post a few links?
 

mizzou

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Doesn't feel too nice when it's your side of the fence getting pounded, does it ;)

That's equivalent to saying someone should murder someone of your family because someone in your distant family tree who you have absolutely no clue who they are, other then you share the same name...shit, you may not even be related to them, that it's OK to murder your entire family and then say "Ahh fuck it, they had it coming"

I'll give you the opportunity to tell me you are trolling.
 

TreVader

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That's equivalent to saying someone should murder someone of your family because someone in your distant family tree who you have absolutely no clue who they are, other then you share the same name...shit, you may not even be related to them, that it's OK to murder your entire family and then say "Ahh fuck it, they had it coming"



I'll give you the opportunity to tell me you are trolling.


Trolling?



To a degree. But maybe next time when some baby gets its face blown off and brain damage by a SWAT team you don't say that their parents "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"?


Because you are just as insensitive as I am being now. But you aren't trolling, you're just an asshole.
 

LegendKiller

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Wow that is fucked up. Gotta say I am not surprised at all. When that white guy ambushed two cops and killed one I thought "this won't be the last"...



It's sad, but certainly not surprising considering the way cops act.


How many times did the cops think they could beat and abuse and murder the public, before they fight back with violence ?


I say sucks for him. Then I change the channel


This is the fucking problem.

99% of cops are fine.
 
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shira

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The media didn't kill these officers, just like an evil gun didn't kill these officers. A murderous POS did. I understand your comment as it applies to MB but EG? What lies did the "media" put forth? People were able to generate their own opinions bases on the video. I'm sure if you were a black man you'd feel completely different about the worsening relations between black men and LEOs the past umpteen years. It certainly doesn't justify or excuse his actions but you have never looked out of the eyes of a black person nor walked a mile in one's shoes.

RIP
I think it would have been a lot more difficult for that "murderous POS" to have killed with a knife BOTH of these officers.
 

Shargrath

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It's a sad state of affairs.

On one hand, the majority of police is the enemy of the free citizen. Most people think police are there to protect them, in truth, they are there to defend the government and the wealthy. Their official purpose is to "maintain law and order", not to work for the good of the people.

In America, the police have a license to kill and do what they want to do, as long as they don't hurt someone in the upper class, or one of their own (case and point, Dorner). Regular people get shot, killed, and assaulted by police on a regular basis in America and an officer is almost never convicted of any wrong-doing no matter what they do to a civilian.

The culture of police in America promotes a "shoot first - ask questions later" culture and a definitive policy of shooting to kill, so that they don't have to worry about lawsuits later. Police know if they shoot and kill a person, the chapter is over and there will never be any real investigation.

In an animal-farm esque manner, all people are equal, but police are more equal to others. If the Mike Brown incident was between two civilians, the cop would've almost certainly had been convicted of manslaughter. But because he's a cop, and they are above the law, he had no charges brought up. If the Eric Garner incident was between Eric and another civilian, the killer would've been convicted of murder, no questions asked. Again, it was a cop, so he was above the law.

Why is this culture prevalent? The wealthy want to make sure they are protected from any possible revolt from the lower classes. That's why police have their hands untied and can do practically anything they want. This is done to keep the public in fear. Police are suppose to be feared, even if you are a law abiding citizen.

I live in New York and I'm more afraid of encountering cops than criminals...because cops can do anything they want. The vast majority of cops here in NYC are extremely nasty, treat people with disdain and disrespect, and abuse citizens on a regular basis.

Now, comes the question, was this justified? Of course not. As luck would usually have it, these two cops were probably the "good ones", because it's always the good guys who lose. However, the motive of the killer is perfectly understandable. Regardless of the circumstances, I feel absolutely no sympathy for cops. As a free citizen, they work against my interests, and would not hesitate to kill me if the chance arose.

And I am a law-abiding, non violent citizen, who follows the law...there is no reason I should fear the police.
 

Sulaco

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Trolling?



To a degree. But maybe next time when some baby gets its face blown off and brain damage by a SWAT team you don't say that their parents "play stupid games, win stupid prizes"?


Because you are just as insensitive as I am being now. But you aren't trolling, you're just an asshole.

You are a piece of human filth and an intellectual derelict.

Someone needed to say it.
 

mizzou

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Now, comes the question, was this justified? Of course not. As luck would usually have it, these two cops were probably the "good ones", because it's always the good guys who lose. However, the motive of the killer is perfectly understandable. Regardless of the circumstances, I feel absolutely no sympathy for cops. As a free citizen, they work against my interests, and would not hesitate to kill me if the chance arose.

And I am a law-abiding, non violent citizen, who follows the law...there is no reason I should fear the police.

You should probably be more specific in...oh, I don't know...everything you say. Dude what the fuck are you talking about?

I would also like an IPAD
 

shady28

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This is the fucking problem.

99% of cops are fine.

Not credible, and that's not the fucking problem (unless you're a cop).

Here's an example of what the problem is :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPQLTrttjwo#t=39

"He suspected that Duenez had a knife and shouted at him to drop it and put his hands up.

As Duenez was exiting the vehicle over the passenger seat, he tripped and turned around which provoked the officer to fire 13 shots in just 4.2 seconds. Duenez was shot once in the head, eight times in the body and two times in the extremities and died from wounds to his chest and abdomen.

It was later discovered that Duenez had his foot stuck in the seat belt which is probably why he had turned around, trying to set his foot loose.
"

The city had to pay 2.2 million.

The DA refused to prosecute. No wrong doing by the officer was found...


That last statement is what removes any credence from statements that 99% of cops are fine. There are so many videos of police beating and killing people, and then having DA's and other cops covering for them.

And I guarantee you, for every video out there, there are at least 100 instances where no video was available.

You want more? Go here :

http://www.policebrutality.info/category/videos/page/8

Hundreds of videos there.

Here's another :

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/ray-rice-video-elevator-incident-wife-27730042


And here, +2 judges who were sending teens to jail for money (EDIT : that's after the part where the cop slams a teenagers into a concrete bench and breaks her face):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy1z8lWdaKk

This is classic. Cop turns off camera, woman winds up with 2 broken teeth 2 black eyes and cuts to her face. The cops attorney says she fell....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyv4CCEArs4


Oh and here's your 99% cops. Hand gestures before planting evidence, look around 1:10s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAhHd6M2Sjg


I mean really. These guys are sophisticated enough to have hand gestures to plant evidence.

And you think 99% of cops are ok. Yeah, right.

Just wait until grand juries start refusing to indict people who kill cops in self defense.
 
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