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Geosurface

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If anyone cares to see Theodore Wafer get arraigned, it's live streaming here

and should be starting any minute.
 

SheHateMe

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That multicultural societies are fundamentally flawed and don't work?

Sorry, you aren't sending me back to Africa. This is my home, I was born here.



Lets see Theodore was sleeping peacefully in his bed.

Renisha was out driving drunk(which given the door of cars she trashed she had likely done before), crashing into cars, fleeing the scene of an accident...


Renisha was 19. She obviously made some dumb mistakes involving DUI, but that doesn't mean she "had it coming". AFAIK, she was a nonviolent person other than the drunk driving. She could have gotten a chance at redemption. Theodore took that way from her.
 
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bshole

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Wasn't Zimmerman acquitted by an all non-white jury?

ROFLMFAO!!! You kidding right?

Five of the women were white and one was Hispanic. He had no chance of losing with that kind of racial makeup on the jury.
 

Geosurface

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Sorry, you aren't sending me back to Africa. This is my home, I was born here.

How about breaking up the US into smaller countries?

Do you have any fundamental problem with the type of white people you can't stand (spidey, myself, the gun nuts, Mitt Romney, whatever...) having their own nation where they can be boring and non-diverse indefinitely?

I feel like we could solve a lot of problems by letting liberals and conservatives go their separate ways.
 

SheHateMe

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How about breaking up the US into smaller countries?

How about no?

Do you have any fundamental problem with the type of white people you can't stand (spidey, myself, the gun nuts, Mitt Romney, whatever...) having their own nation where they can be boring and non-diverse indefinitely?

Sure....I wouldn't mind that. Doesn't mean you can try and turn the US into that, though. Although.....there are some PLEs popping up in states with low populations compared to other states.

You guys could go there.

Also, I chuckled at the notion of "the type of white people you can't stand". I guess we could figure out where to send the types of my own people I can't stand, too. :p


I feel like we could solve a lot of problems by letting liberals and conservatives go their separate ways.

Sure, no problem dude. But, you aren't making that decision for everyone.
 

nehalem256

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Renisha was 19. She obviously made some dumb mistakes involving DUI, but that doesn't mean she "had it coming". AFAIK, she was a nonviolent person other than the drunk driving. She could have gotten a chance at redemption. Theodore took that way from her.

How many cars did she trash again? :confused:
 

SheHateMe

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How many cars did she trash again? :confused:

And? If she hadn't caused any deaths or injuries to others up to that point, she had a chance for redemption. She could have been charged for the DUI, done some jail time, and perhaps court ordered evaluation. Again, she was 19, she could have turned her life around.


Keep trolling.
 

Geosurface

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To your point, SheHateMe, Wafer had a couple of drinking and driving offenses 20 years ago.

So Maybe Renisha could've become the one blowing someone away at her porch 20 years from now.
 
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I believe the lack of any real evidence had more to do with the acquittal than the makeup of the jury.


This is bshole you're talking about. They're in the same boat as SHM and classy.

It's ALWAYS about race. ALWAYS. It's never about what the person did, or the important facts of the case.

Situations, in their minds anyway, are always decided due to racial hatred.
 

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Worthy wouldn't reveal what investigators believe McBride was doing during the more-than-three-hour lapse between her crash at 12:57 a.m. and shooting.

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a reasonable explanation for what she was doing for more than 3 hours between her accident and the shooting. Until then, I will consider this claim that she was knocking on someone's door 'looking for help' to be highly questionable.
 

SheHateMe

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They're in the same boat as SHM and classy.

It's ALWAYS about race. ALWAYS. It's never about what the person did, or the important facts of the case.

Situations, in their minds anyway, are always decided due to racial hatred.

Sure. Except I didn't make a peep about this being racially motivated. Never said anything about Wafer shooting her over racial hatred.


Nope nope nope.
 
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Sure. Except I didn't make a peep about this being racially motivated.


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SheHateMe

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That gif is so tired.


That's just your way of backtracking.




How about, don't bring my name up saying that I accused the guy of shooting her over racial motivation if you can't actually quote me as saying such?
 

Jaskalas

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The woman broke at least 4 laws which resulted in her death

(1) Underage drinking
(2) Smoking pot
(3) Driving drunk
(4) Fleeing the scene of an accident

The homeowner didn't just "open the door and shoot her in the face". She was banging around on his porch at ungodly hours. Now given her state of intoxication and highness do you think she was maybe doing that in a way that would freak someone out inside?

Or do you think she was just politely knocking and screaming "help!"

I would want evidence that she "broke in" or was causing damage to the property. Unless you think it's okay for someone to die over making noise. I don't.
 
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I would want evidence that she "broke in" or was causing damage to the property. Unless you think it's okay for someone to die over making noise. I don't.


People die over noise all the time.

"Let me in or I'm going to fucking kill you" = good shoot.



At this point we have very little evidence. But from what evidence we have, there's no way charges should be filed except due to pressure from the lynch mobs.
 

SheHateMe

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It's your MO. You shouldn't be defending this DUI loser who got herself killed by trying to break in to some old man's home.

Hey, stupid. The Wayne Country prosecutor already made an official statement saying that there were no signs of forced entry or any attempts of forced entry to his home.

In fact, his screen door was locked.



I guess your MO is entering threads towards the end and not bothering to read any posts.


People die over noise all the time.

"Let me in or I'm going to fucking kill you" = good shoot.


Ya, that's what happened.


People die over noise all the time.
At this point we have very little evidence. But from what evidence we have, there's no way charges should be filed except due to pressure from the lynch mobs.

Charges were filed today. Late to the punch again. Probably because you're just here to troll at this point.




http://abcnews.go.com/US/renisha-mcbrides-alleged-shooter-charged-murder/story?id=20899735


Evidence suggested that she knocked on Wafer's locked screen door and that he opened his front door and was inside the house when he fired a shot through the open door, but a still closed and locked screen door, the prosecutor said.

There was no evidence of forced entry to the home, Worthy said.

The prosecutor said that in Michigan someone who claims lawful self defense must have "honest and reasonable belief of imminent death or imminent great bodily harm" to themselves or another person and that the use of force must be necessary to prevent that.

Worthy said her office "obviously" did not feel that the defendant acted in lawful self defense.
 
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Geosurface

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I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a reasonable explanation for what she was doing for more than 3 hours between her accident and the shooting.

My guess? She tries to get the people at the scene of her wreck to drive her home by saying "I just want to go home" but when she realizes they're calling cops, she panics and doesn't want to be around to be breathalyzed.

She comes back to scene of wreck after hiding somewhere nearby 40 minutes later, they call 911 again, she flees for the same reason again.

This time, she heads toward Wafer's house.

I think she hides in someone's back yard, or along the side of their house. I think she likely falls asleep in someone's bushes, or somewhere like that.

She wakes up around the time of the shooting, and she's still wasted, confused, maybe doesn't even remember where she is or how she got there... and she is cold. She starts loudly slamming on someone's door, impatiently wanting help.

Only question is, did she cross the line into actions which could put someone in reasonable fear in so doing? I have no idea.
 
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And... just like the trayvon situation.....


The more of these that happen, the more likely it is that a murder that is truly due to race gets ignored.

I don't understand what certain segments of our society pick losers like this girl and trayvon martin to martyr.
 
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It's your MO. You shouldn't be defending this DUI loser who got herself killed by trying to break in to some old man's home.

Yet it's perfectly reasonable for an idiot with a shotgun to shoot a disoriented, inebriated, wounded woman who was knocking on the door. Was there proof of a break in or are you just trying to repeat the same lie over and over hoping it will stick, a la turdblossom?