19 Year Old Girl Shot Looking for Help

[SheHateMe]

and... Just like the trayvon situation.....


The more of these that happen, the more likely it is that a murder that is truly due to race gets ignored.

I don't understand what certain segments of our society pick losers like this girl and trayvon martin to martyr.

lol yeah, lets bring up trayvon martin. The prosecutor contemplated the charges for 19 days. They feel that the evidence they have warrants an arrest and charges. This has nothing to do with her family saying it was racially motivated. The evidence says that a crime was committed.

 

[nehalem256]

I would want evidence that she "broke in" or was causing damage to the property. Unless you think it's okay for someone to die over making noise. I don't.

Except the initial claim was an accidental shot.

You break multiple laws, then stumble drunk and high to someone's doorstep to wake them in the middle of the night don't expect a lot of sympathy when you get accidentally shot.

 

[spidey07]

The prosecution never says anything that would hurt their case and as you've learned leaves out key elements of information and evidence in order to get a conviction.

The victims attorney has said she was attempting to break in that evidence supports this fact and I believe him a lot more than I do the prosecution.

The home invader tried multiple doors to enter including the side door.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Yet it's perfectly reasonable for an idiot with a shotgun to shoot a disoriented, inebriated, wounded woman who was knocking on the door. Was there proof of a break in or are you just trying to repeat the same lie over and over hoping it will stick, a la turdblossom?

Some bloodied person, looking like a burglar, who was probably digging through the screen while probably screaming to let her the fuck in?

Sounds like a break in to me. Do that to an old man and you might end up dead, in this country.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

lol yeah, lets bring up trayvon martin.

This case is yet another example of a racially fueled hate mob screaming racism, and supporting some waste of life dregs of society for racist reasons.

 

[spidey07]

lol yeah, lets bring up trayvon martin. The prosecutor contemplated the charges for 19 days. They feel that the evidence they have warrants an arrest and charges. This has nothing to do with her family saying it was racially motivated. The evidence says that a crime was committed.

Here's a shovel, you can go and dig him up!

Taste the rainbow!

 

[Geosurface]

He got out on 25k bond and I didn't hear anything about a GPS ankle braclet...

if I were him I would be SORELY tempted to run for it.

he better hope for a Dearborn Heights jury.

 

[SheHateMe]

I believe him a lot more than I do the prosecution.

haha, that sounds a lot like your standup routine of a black mother saying her son didn't do anything.


You guys are killing me, I am cracking up right now.

This case is yet another example of a racially fueled hate mob screaming racism, and supporting some waste of life dregs of society for racist reasons.

 

[M0RPH]

Hey, stupid. The Wayne Country prosecutor already made an official statement saying that there were no signs of forced entry or any attempts of forced entry to his home.

In fact, his screen door was locked.

There doesn't have to be signs of forced entry. If he comes to the door and sees a crazed woman trying to open his door, then she's trying to break in. I could see someone being scared enough to shoot. But it's probably not gonna even about whether he was justified in shooting, because the claim is that he fired on accident.

 

[Aegeon]

People die over noise all the time.

"Let me in or I'm going to fucking kill you" = good shoot.



At this point we have very little evidence. But from what evidence we have, there's no way charges should be filed except due to pressure from the lynch mobs.

The law doesn't work the way you seem to think it does.

To my knowledge even in the most permissive home defense law state, you would need more evidence of an effort to break in order to actually shoot unless the homeowner could make a plausible argument that he believed the individual saying that was armed with a gun and about to shoot. (In general a claim about what a dead victim said without sufficient other witnesses is also going to be looked upon with significant suspicion.)

In this case crucially the victim appears to have said no such thing. (And it would be extremely strange if the defense attorney would not have brought it up by now if she had.)

You appear to have a disturbing tolerance for people shooting individuals merely for bothering them when they have other options given your last comment. (It may be a case of manslaughter with an accidental discharge of the gun, or at least that might be all that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court, but if the evidence is as claimed there are very sound reasons for bringing charges.)

 

[SpatiallyAware]

haha, that sounds a lot like your standup routine of a black mother saying her son didn't do anything.


You guys are killing me, I am cracking up right now.

Have her parents made a statement yet?

 

[dank69]

Sure. Except I didn't make a peep about this being racially motivated. Never said anything about Wafer shooting her over racial hatred.


Nope nope nope.

Pretty sure SA is the only one in this thread suggesting anything is racially motivated. At least the only one I have seen. Anyone surprised?

 

[SheHateMe]

Pretty sure SA is the only one in this thread suggesting anything is racially motivated. At least the only one I have seen. Anyone surprised?

No. Not really.

Have her parents made a statement yet?

I don't think so. The press conference with the prosecutor just happened a little while ago.

 

[Geosurface]

One of the people helping her at the scene of the accident said that as she fled the scene, she put her hood up.

Which I think is a strong indication that at the time she was shot, she had a hoodie up around her head and her hair, meaning that Ted probably didn't realize it was a female.

You wake up at 3:40am, and you see someone in a hoodie aggressively jerking on your screen door knob... or slamming and rattling the door demanding to be let in?

That's all assumption of course, but I'll be interested to hear what he claims she was doing.

 

[M0RPH]

Pretty sure SA is the only one in this thread suggesting anything is racially motivated. At least the only one I have seen. Anyone surprised?

The shooting is not racially motivated, but the attempted lynching of this guy before the evidence comes out surely is.

 

[SheHateMe]

One of the people helping her at the scene of the accident said that as she fled the scene, she put her hood up.

Which I think is a strong indication that at the time she was shot, she had a hoodie up around her head and her hair, meaning that Ted probably didn't realize it was a female.

You wake up at 3:40am, and you see someone in a hoodie aggressively jerking on your screen door knob... or slamming and rattling the door demanding to be let in?

That's all assumption of course, but I'll be interested to hear what he claims she was doing.

Oh gosh, please do share the source of this new information on the hoodie.



Also,

if I were him I would be SORELY tempted to run for it.

Not very good advice. I'm surprised you would suggest running from the law. Especially considering you guys called Renisha a loser for leaving the scene of an accident. You want a guy to flee from standing trial for how justifiable his actions were...? If he's innocent, then the evidence will say so.

 

[PliotronX]

The law doesn't work the way you seem to think it does.

To my knowledge even in the most permissive home defense law state, you would need more evidence of a break in to actually shoot unless the homeowner could make a plausible argument that the individual saying that was armed with a gun and about to shoot. (In general a claim about what a dead victim said without sufficient other witnesses is also going to be looked upon with significant suspicion.)

In this case crucially the victim appears to have said no such thing. (And it would be extremely strange if the defense attorney would not have brought it up by now if she had.)

You appear to have a disturbing tolerance for people shooting individuals merely for bothering them when they have other options given your last comment. (It may be a case of manslaughter with an accidental discharge of the, or at least that might be all that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court, but if the evidence is as claimed there are sound reasons for bringing charges.)

Manslaughter at least, I don't think 2nd degree will stick. One thing is for sure, being bothered for any reason at 3 in the morning and enacting the appropriate response is a whole lot better than going to trial for MS/2D. Guns tend to not shoot by themselves. I don't see him getting off with anything less than MS.

 

[Geosurface]

Oh gosh, please do share the source of this new information on a hoodie.

Like I said, one of the people helping her at the scene of the wreck, who was calling cops for her, said she put her hood up as she left. It was also mentioned during the press conference with Worthy today.

 

[SheHateMe]

Like I said, one of the people helping her at the scene of the wreck, who was calling cops for her, said she put her hood up as she left. It was also mentioned during the press conference with Worthy today.

All I'm asking you for is a link. She didn't mention that in the link to the conference that I posted. So, you must have another source.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

She was leaving the scene of an accident, illegal in my state. So it makes sense that she was wearing her hoodie in deep cover.

 

[dank69]

The shooting is not racially motivated, but the attempted lynching of this guy before the evidence comes out surely is.

That makes two.

 

[dank69]

She was leaving the scene of an accident, illegal in my state. So it makes sense that she was wearing her hoodie in deep cover.

Shifty eyes. You forgot the shifty eyes again.

 

[nehalem256]

She was leaving the scene of an accident, illegal in my state. So it makes sense that she was wearing her hoodie in deep cover.

She was probably just trying to show solidarity with Trayvon

 

[RampantAndroid]

This case is yet another example of a racially fueled hate mob screaming racism, and supporting some waste of life dregs of society for racist reasons.

Really? What evidence do we have that the shooter was justified? At least with TM/GZ it seemed pretty obvious what had happened (even if some people here disagreed) - I don't see overwhelming info here with this case.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Some bloodied person, looking like a burglar, who was probably digging through the screen while probably screaming to let her the fuck in?

Sounds like a break in to me. Do that to an old man and you might end up dead, in this country.

Per your SPECULATION, I bet it does sound like a break in. But by going on what the AUTHORITIES have found, which was no sign of a break in, you're wrong. No 'probably' about it.

Probably screaming
probably digging through the screen

definitely speculative.