10+ dead during shooting at the paper that ran Muhammad cartoon

[Dari]

So, in sending Eric Holder he's acting what, stupidly? Clearly, he felt it important for the U.S. to have a presence. Why send an underling who has got one foot out the door while leaders of other nations are in attendance? Your bulb, it glows dim.

Maybe Holder is taking the family and will be hanging around for a week or so afterwards as a last hurrah on the taxpayers dime. What do you think?

Holder is not the president. May as well have sent Biden. I do not want to see the President of the United States of America, the most important man on earth, in a fucking march (on foreign soil, no less) along with a million other people. It's a security nightmare, not just from those hostile to him but also friendlies. I'm sorry for what happened to the people of France but last week also saw the slaughter of 2000 villagers by Boko Haram. I didn't hear about the president visiting the Nigerian embassy, let alone sending a dignitary to Lagos to march...

 

[boomerang]

Holder is not the president. May as well have sent Biden. I do not want to see the President of the United States of America, the most important man on earth, in a fucking march (on foreign soil, no less) along with a million other people. It's a security nightmare, not just from those hostile to him but also friendlies. I'm sorry for what happened to the people of France but last week also saw the slaughter of 2000 villagers by Boko Haram. I didn't hear about the president visiting the Nigerian embassy, let alone sending a dignitary to Lagos to march...

Yeah, well if you really knew what was going on you'd know two things. First, there are talks scheduled, the march is a minor part of the proceedings. Secondly, Holder didn't attend the march.

 

[boomerang]

I'm not offended by Obama not going, but I don't understand it being Holder. He must as well have sent the head of NOAA.

It appears that on this minor issue we are in lockstep. Obama has scheduled talks here in February. I'm going to guess that he gives more weight to talks here than over there. If that's the case I don't know why because our nation is rapidly becoming less and less important on the world stage. And that's of course the way he wants it.

He's probably still all jet-lagged too after Hawaii...

 

[IGBT]

These 7th century savages view human life as a tool to be used to meet an agenda. Much like the left, they view the individual as a dispensable cog to be used and then destroyed for the perceived good of the collective. The illusory multi cultural low information left in the U.S.A. wishes to embrace these barbarians but fail to realize under Sharia Law they will be the first heads sawed off. In Islam..it's a mans world.

 

[werepossum]

Holder is not the president. May as well have sent Biden. I do not want to see the President of the United States of America, the most important man on earth, in a fucking march (on foreign soil, no less) along with a million other people. It's a security nightmare, not just from those hostile to him but also friendlies. I'm sorry for what happened to the people of France but last week also saw the slaughter of 2000 villagers by Boko Haram. I didn't hear about the president visiting the Nigerian embassy, let alone sending a dignitary to Lagos to march...

Um, all those other nations' heads of state are going, so I don't think security will be the problem you imagine. Besides that, France is our oldest if not always our closest ally, whereas Nigeria is a nation with no close ties and as often on the wrong side of Islamic terrorism as not. Not really the same thing. We probably could have gotten way with sending Biden - after all, not much golfing to be done right now in Paris - but sending Holder is a deliberate slap in the face. Sending Bush and Clinton would have been a better move - IFF Obama's intent was not to deliver a slap in the face.

From the American Thinker article:

An impressive array of world leaders is gathered in Paris to march in solidarity with the victims of Islamic terror. British Prime Minister David Cameron, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and even Palestinian Authority head Mahmoud Abbas found it important enough to stand up to those who would kill the critics of Mohammed to come to the City of Light.

But not President Obama. Even though he has no activities at all on his presidential daily schedule, he is too busy to make time. (The NFL playoffs are on TV, though.)

The highest-ranking US official is the outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder, a lame duck.

But then again, this is a president who said before the UN General Assembly, “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam,” and that is exactly what the cartoonists and editors of Charlie Hebdo did. Apparently Obama really meant it.

Make up your own minds.

 

[Blue_Max]

Dont know but here in France there s a famed jewish pseudo journalist that recently wrote a book advocating such a measure, so much for jews not being extremists, even in western countries, after all the fascist Betar is allowed in France and they are even armed while this movement has been branded terrorist by the US..

...but muslims don't hate jews... nooooooooo.... that's just a big lie.......

 

[Victorian Gray]

when you got nothing go to the typical liberal play book:

Call anyone that disagrees with you both ignorant and a bigot.

That slate article has you down to a T.

Grow up.

You're still am ignorant bigot.

 

[schmuckley]

You're still am ignorant bigot.

You're still a liberal shill.How's the breakroom there?

Obama didn't want to go because he's a Muslim himself.

 

[Victorian Gray]

So, in sending Eric Holder he's acting what, stupidly? Clearly, he felt it important for the U.S. to have a presence. Why send an underling who has got one foot out the door while leaders of other nations are in attendance? Your bulb, it glows dim.

Maybe Holder is taking the family and will be hanging around for a week or so afterwards as a last hurrah on the taxpayers dime. What do you think?

Holder was not at the rally, he's in France for a security summit. The US was represented by the American ambassador.

And are you going to call out the leaders of the rest of the world for not showing up as well?

 

[Victorian Gray]

You're still a liberal shill.How's the breakroom there?

Obama didn't want to go because he's a Muslim himself.

Oh good, we have another ignorant bigot joining in. You guys should join a club or something.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Oh good, we have another ignorant bigot joining in. You guys should join a club or something.

Sarcasm on his part?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Sarcasm on his part?

Based on past posts, I doubt it.

 

[michal1980]

You're still am ignorant bigot.

Stating reality makes me an ignorant bigot?

Go fuck yourself. Better yet, go off yourself.

The world has no room for people too stupid to be educated. Continue on your willful disregard of facts. This action was caused by people in the name of Islam. You can choose to ignore that fact, but that doesn't change reality.

As to your stupid bigot comment. Why am I a bigot? Because I can see that some Muslims are terrorists? Because I'm not afraid to call some of them terrorists? No where did I say that.

Go read that slate article again, maybe this time it'll sink it. I doubt it, because based on your posts there isn't anything between the eyes.

We do not allow people to tell other posters to "off" themselves. -Admin DrPizza

 

[Victorian Gray]

Stating reality makes me an ignorant bigot?

Go fuck yourself. Better yet, go off yourself.

The world has no room for people too stupid to be educated. Continue on your willful disregard of facts. This action was caused by people in the name of Islam. You can choose to ignore that fact, but that doesn't change reality.

As to your stupid bigot comment. Why am I a bigot? Because I can see that some Muslims are terrorists? Because I'm not afraid to call some of them terrorists? No where did I say that.

Go read that slate article again, maybe this time it'll sink it. I doubt it, because based on your posts there isn't anything between the eyes.

When the shoes fit, I guess that you're stuck with wearing them.

I'm curious, do you actually know any Muslims?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Palestinian security forces wave Palestinian and French flags in solidarity with French people, denouncing terrorism, as they join a rally in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Sunday. Majdi Mohammed/AP

 

[Victorian Gray]

oops, wrong thread, sorry

 

[Victorian Gray]

Wrong thread, sorry.

 

[Blue_Max]

Palestinian security forces wave Palestinian and French flags in solidarity with French people, denouncing terrorism, as they join a rally in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Sunday. Majdi Mohammed/AP

Look up TAQUIYYA.

Until I see them denounce their own prophet's exact words, I won't believe the singing & dancing show being put on.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Look up TAQUIYYA.

Until I see them denounce their own prophet's exact words, I won't believe the singing & dancing show being put on.

You guys really should form a club. Maybe design some nice uniforms to wear as you're patrolling the streets looking for evil Muslims. What's the scoop? Simply take away their citizenship and dump them in the ocean or, maybe some nice internment camps?

 

[5150Joker]

Looks like the Islamophobic Nazis will get their wish, at least in Germany:

According to results of a 2013 poll carried out by the Turkish-European Foundation for Education and Scientific Studies (Tavak), the ones who are returning to Turkey mainly belong to the third and fourth generation of Turkish immigrants who were born and raised in Germany.

They are between 18 and 40 years old and leave because "they don't see Germany as a chance for their future".

Most of them possess fluent German in comparison with their guest-worker parents and grandparents. Nonetheless, these German-Turks still have problems harmonising with German society, where they face serious economic deprivation and discrimination, a move that pushes them to move back to Turkey.

According to the study, 63,000 Turks returned from Germany to Turkey in 2013. And in the coming years this number is not expected to change much, according to Faruk Sen, the head of Tavak.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30742898

Personally I think it's a good idea, especially for educated Muslims, to leave Western countries (even if they've been there for generations) and go home and rebuild their ancestral countries and fix what's broken with Islam. Asians routinely do it, they get educated in the West and then move home - that's how China became powerful and so did Japan and S. Korea. While ISIS is clearly the wrong solution for Muslims and the world, their idea of a united Muslim world isn't new and is worth pursuing. If Islamic countries form their own union, it would put them in a much better position economically, politically and militarily. That would also drastically reduce immigration to Western countries from the Muslim world so everyone would be happy. Turkey itself seems to be disengaging from Europe (and it's desires to join the EU) and looking back East which is a good start.

 

[Blue_Max]

You guys really should form a club. Maybe design some nice uniforms to wear as you're patrolling the streets looking for evil Muslims. What's the scoop? Simply take away their citizenship and dump them in the ocean or, maybe some nice internment camps?

Same old song and dance out of you. Did I suggest any of those things? No. But you're hoping to publicly shame me by assuming I did. Popular feminist tactic. Screw your bullshit.

So... you look up taqiyya yet?

That aside, how about you step up to the plate for once. You're so busy shaming anyone who has an opinion you don't like, but never really offer an opinion of your own to be scrutinized by everyone else. (Again, popular feminist tactic.) So, step up. What are YOUR thoughts on how to get along with muslims? What is YOUR take on peaceful-vs-not? What is YOUR answer to quran texts that are very obviously violent towards kafirs? (Non-muslims.)

Let's hear YOU contribute instead of the usual undermining of everyone else.

eh?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Same old song and dance out of you. Did I suggest any of those things? No. But you're hoping to publicly shame me by assuming I did. Popular feminist tactic. Screw your bullshit.

So... you look up taqiyya yet?

That aside, how about you step up to the plate for once. You're so busy shaming anyone who has an opinion you don't like, but never really offer an opinion of your own to be scrutinized by everyone else. (Again, popular feminist tactic.) So, step up. What are YOUR thoughts on how to get along with muslims? What is YOUR take on peaceful-vs-not? What is YOUR answer to quran texts that are very obviously violent towards kafirs? (Non-muslims.)

Let's hear YOU contribute instead of the usual undermining of everyone else.

eh?

My thoughts about getting along with Muslims? A little phrase commonly known as the 'golden rule' seems a good place to start.

And your tossing around the odd word like "kafir" as if you actually know what you're talking about? If it wasn't so sad, it might almost be humorous.

btw, "feminist tactic"? Good grief. Maybe you should get back to your games.

another btw, do you actually know any Muslims?

 

[Blue_Max]

My thoughts about getting along with Muslims? A little phrase commonly known as the 'golden rule' seems a good place to start.

So... be nice to them and they'll be nice to us. Rather close to "Blow them kisses" now isn't it?

Most countries HAVE been treating their muslim populations with respect, but NOT getting the same in return. Instead, the demands just keep getting larger and giving violence in return. France's prison population is 50% muslim (from today's paper.)

another btw, do you actually know any Muslims?

Yep. A few were great guys trying to get out of their religion without being harmed for it (see sharia law) and some who were jerks who demanded everything be done their way. I got greeted in the moving van by a handful in my neighbourhood who said they didn't want any more white people in my complex. Their little boy with them then added, "god hates you." Nice bunch. I'm sure you'll use that opportunity to say that now I think all muslims are the same... except I don't. Like I said, some I work with are not like that at all. One day I should risk our friendly work relations and ask a couple uncomfortable questions... but taqiyya means there's no way of knowing if I'll get an honest answer. Some of the most outspoken islam detractors had come from within the islamic ranks and faces death threats daily. REAL death threats, not the Quinn & Sarkeesian type.

 

[5150Joker]

So... be nice to them and they'll be nice to us. Rather close to "Blow them kisses" now isn't it?

Most countries HAVE been treating their muslim populations with respect, but NOT getting the same in return. Instead, the demands just keep getting larger and giving violence in return. France's prison population is 50% muslim (from today's paper.)


Yep. A few were great guys trying to get out of their religion without being harmed for it (see sharia law) and some who were jerks who demanded everything be done their way. I got greeted in the moving van by a handful in my neighbourhood who said they didn't want any more white people in my complex. Their little boy with them then added, "god hates you." Nice bunch. I'm sure you'll use that opportunity to say that now I think all muslims are the same... except I don't. Like I said, some I work with are not like that at all. One day I should risk our friendly work relations and ask a couple uncomfortable questions... but taqiyya means there's no way of knowing if I'll get an honest answer. Some of the most outspoken islam detractors had come from within the islamic ranks and faces death threats daily. REAL death threats, not the Quinn & Sarkeesian type.

LOL! Lemme guess, those fictional Muslims were named Ahmed and Mohammed?

 

[Blue_Max]

LOL! Lemme guess, those fictional Muslims were named Ahmed and Mohammed?

Now they're fictional too, eh? What's the point of sharing anything with you lot if you're can't be honest yourselves, and call everyone else liars as well.

Thought Police at work.