10+ dead during shooting at the paper that ran Muhammad cartoon

[LevelSea]

Not wanting to excuse anything but <excuse>

yep

 

[Zaap]

Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam tells fellow Muslims who do not appreciate the 'freedoms' of living in the West to 'pack your bags and f*** off' on live TV

Now there's a man to love. That's the message world leaders should have been United behind.

That guy has my vote as "Civilized World Leader."

Amazing. Someone in some form of political office... with a backbone.

Of course I say all this before the inevitable- that he caves in to the whiney ninnies and apologizes for hurting some poor, picked on, 'just wanting to kill the infidels until they see the light' little shitbag's feelings.

 

[BoberFett]

Not wanting to excuse anything but Charlie Hebdo former director, Phillippe Val, is a known islamophobic character, he got his usual rant in each page 3 of the magazine, besides he and a so called journalist has been debunked by Olivier Cyan, a former Charlie Hebdo german journalist, as supporting obvious racist branding of muslims where some perverse cartoonists use them to project their own sexual deviances, if you call this freedom of expression then every thing is freedom of expression, including incitement to racism and eventualy crimes.

What is even more disturbing is that they layed off a known cartoonist a few time after they published the controversial cartoons because he said in the magazine that former president SarKozy s son was to convert to judaism just befor marrying a rich jewish woman, wich was documented, he was branded antisemitic by his own magazine, Charlie Hebdo, and layed off illegaly since they had to pay him 90 000€ by justice decision for breaching the contract, talk of freedom of expression after this...

https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.les-crises.fr%2Fcharlie-hebdo-pas-raciste-si-vous-le-dites-par-olivier-cyran%2F&edit-text=

Is it hard for you? And what I mean by that is: Is it hard for you to follow a religion that deifies a pedophile?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Not wanting to excuse anything but Charlie Hebdo former director, Phillippe Val, is a known islamophobic character, he got his usual rant in each page 3 of the magazine, besides he and a so called journalist has been debunked by Olivier Cyan, a former Charlie Hebdo german journalist, as supporting obvious racist branding of muslims where some perverse cartoonists use them to project their own sexual deviances, if you call this freedom of expression then every thing is freedom of expression, including incitement to racism and eventualy crimes.

What is even more disturbing is that they layed off a known cartoonist a few time after they published the controversial cartoons because he said in the magazine that former president SarKozy s son was to convert to judaism just befor marrying a rich jewish woman, wich was documented, he was branded antisemitic by his own magazine, Charlie Hebdo, and layed off illegaly since they had to pay him 90 000€ by justice decision for breaching the contract, talk of freedom of expression after this...

https://translate.google.fr/transla...i-vous-le-dites-par-olivier-cyran/&edit-text=

Nice diversion. Nothing you wrote is relevant. Again, be angry all you want if someone insults your religion or something else you hold dear -- that's your right. It is not your right to kill someone for expressing their views, no matter how much they offend you.

 

[Abwx]

Nice diversion. Nothing you wrote is relevant. Again, be angry all you want if someone insults your religion or something else you hold dear -- that's your right. It is not your right to kill someone for expressing their views, no matter how much they offend you.

No diversion at all, i posts infos that i didnt knew myself a week ago, and nowher i did say that someone should be killed for such trivialities...

Besides i m no believer but i wont use someone s religion as a mean to brand him whatever doesnt suit him, i dont see the point of acting in a way that is nothing else that comtempt and wickness, but when it comes to using constructed arguments to prove that thoses religions are myths i m all for it.

As for Charlie Hebdo being a proponent of freedom of expression, they are not, it s quite some time that this is a polemic in France that they are actualy a bunch of neocons promoting a clash of civilisation, when they where trialed by their employee this latter did receive the support of the most progressive intelligentsia while Charlie Hebdo was supported by obvious neocons and warmongers.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

No diversion at all, i posts infos that i didnt knew myself a week ago, and nowher i did say that someone should be killed for such trivialities...

Besides i m no believer but i wont use someone s religion as a mean to brand him whatever doesnt suit him, i dont see the point of acting in a way that is nothing else that comtempt and wickness, but when it comes to using constructed arguments to prove that thoses religions are myths i m all for it.

As for Charlie Hebdo being a proponent of freedom of expression, they are not, it s quite some time that this is a polemic in France that they are actualy a bunch of neocons promoting a clash of civilisation, when they where trialed by their employee this latter did receive the support of the most progressive intelligentsia while Charlie Hebdo was supported by obvious neocons and warmongers.

Again, it doesn't matter what they printed -- a cartoon of Mohamed, a cartoon of the assassin's moms having relations with farm animals, etc. -- it doesn't matter. No additional explanation or discussion is necessary. Charlie Hebdo was free to publish such material no matter how objectionable some may find it. You do NOT have the right to NOT be offended.

Your attempt at character assassination, assigning blame to political factions, etc. is irrelevant. The point was, and remains, that no one has the right to murder someone based on a cartoon poking fun of their religion. This type of medieval, backwards thinking is precisely what is wrong with the Middle East and an unfortunately significant portion of its population.

 

[Jaskalas]

Grieving Muslim mother leads the mourners as France buries her son.

There can be unity as some folks live and die to defend the West. There are some Muslims who would stand with us against Terrorism. If only their voices were heard.

 

[Caravaggio]

Is it hard for you to follow a religion that deifies a pedophile?

Is that a veiled condemnation of Jeffery Epstein and America's worship of money?
Or am I muddling up your anti-semitism with your Islamophobia?

 

[Nebor]

Is it hard for you? And what I mean by that is: Is it hard for you to follow a religion that deifies a pedophile?

It's easy when they all aspire to be like him. 15% of women are married before age 15. 50% before age 18. Yup, must be the work of a small number of "radical" Muslims.

 

[Abwx]

It's easy when they all aspire to be like him. 15% of women are married before age 15. 50% before age 18. Yup, must be the work of a small number of "radical" Muslims.

Not to excuse the thing but then go to Spain, it s legal for you to have some sex with a 13 year old, girl or boy, without the consent of his parents, but of course that s not barbaric, it s freedom...

 

[Caravaggio]

15% of women are married before age 15.

Shocking! Worse than Salt Lake City and the polygamous Mormons. I could never live in a country like that.

Muslims have these strict laws about women and hair and they slaughter their animals by throat-slitting without pre-stunning.
Whoops! Just like Orthodox Jews. They don't encourage their women to lead prayer in the Mosque either.
But come to think of it..........
Are you trying to drive a wedge where none exists?
Ever read Genesis? The things that went on!

 

[Nebor]

You guys pointing out other horrible things aren't accomplishing anything. Catholicism and Judaism need to be abolished too, but Islam is the most pressing concern. Though I will say that Orthodox Jews are almost as bad as muslims. They're ruining Israel and outbreeding all the secular (ethnic) Jews.

 

[bshole]

You guys pointing out other horrible things aren't accomplishing anything. Catholicism and Judaism need to be abolished too, but Islam is the most pressing concern. Though I will say that Orthodox Jews are almost as bad as muslims. They're ruining Israel and outbreeding all the secular (ethnic) Jews.

Seriously, banning religion? And if people continue to practice said religion? Round them up and "re-educate" them? You are one nutty dude.....

 

[Nebor]

Seriously, banning religion? And if people continue to practice said religion? Round them up and "re-educate" them? You are one nutty dude.....

Religion is responsible for a lot of the suffering in the world. Even here in the United States, religion keeps women from accessing reproductive health services and it stops us from pursuing stem cell research or cloning. Certainly it serves a purpose as the "opiate of the masses," but we have far more effective opiates these days in the form of electronic entertainment. Globally religion is doing more harm than good.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Grieving Muslim mother leads the mourners as France buries her son.

There can be unity as some folks live and die to defend the West. There are some Muslims who would stand with us against Terrorism. If only their voices were heard.

You mean, if only someone paid attention to them when they speak.

 

[1prophet]

Not to excuse the thing but then go to Spain, it s legal for you to have some sex with a 13 year old, girl or boy, without the consent of his parents, but of course that s not barbaric, it s freedom...

Not for an American it isn't

Extraterritorial Sexual Exploitation of Children
The extraterritorial sexual exploitation of children is the act of traveling to a foreign country and engaging in sexual activity with a child in that country. Federal law prohibits an American citizen or resident to travel to a foreign country with intent to engage in any form of sexual conduct with a minor (defined as persons under 18 years of age). It is also illegal to help organize or assist another person to travel for these purposes. This crime is a form of human trafficking, also referred to as child sex tourism. Convicted offenders face fines and up to 30 years of imprisonment (For more information, see Citizen's Guide to Federal Law on the Extraterritorial Sexual Exploitation of Children).

 

[Jaskalas]

You mean, if only someone paid attention to them when they speak.

It's that, or watch the "Nazi" movements grow with each attack.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Again, it doesn't matter what they printed -- a cartoon of Mohamed, a cartoon of the assassin's moms having relations with farm animals, etc. -- it doesn't matter. No additional explanation or discussion is necessary. Charlie Hebdo was free to publish such material no matter how objectionable some may find it. You do NOT have the right to NOT be offended.

Your attempt at character assassination, assigning blame to political factions, etc. is irrelevant. The point was, and remains, that no one has the right to murder someone based on a cartoon poking fun of their religion. This type of medieval, backwards thinking is precisely what is wrong with the Middle East and an unfortunately significant portion of its population.

I find it amusing that the apologists have the mental gymnastics to come out with laughable excuses that fails Logic 101 at first sight than to acknowledge the simple fact of "If you can't the heat, then stay out of the kitchen."

 

[Orignal Earl]

Is it hard for you? And what I mean by that is: Is it hard for you to follow a religion that deifies a pedophile?

Here's a good read on people getting married to 7 years olds, even in America up to at least 1900

http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/

 

[BoberFett]

Here's a good read on people getting married to 7 years olds, even in America up to at least 1900

http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/

The situation was similar on the other side of the Atlantic; Bullough reports the case in 1689 of a nine-year-old bride in Virginia. At the start of the nineteenth century in England, it was legal to have sex with a 10 year-old girl.” [2]

So you've dug up a 400+ year old case of a nine year old getting married. And that it was TECHNICALLY legal to have sex, though without providing actual evidence that it happened.



Bravo. Well done. When we make that nine year old's husband the basis for the state religion here in the US, get back to me.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So you've dug up a 400+ year old case of a nine year old getting married. And that it was TECHNICALLY legal to have sex, though without providing actual evidence that it happened.



Bravo. Well done. When we make that nine year old's husband the basis for the state religion here in the US, get back to me.

Here is why people in the US went to Delware to marry 7 year olds, the rest waited at least till 10.
I doubt you will get anything out it though since you seem to have skipped a lot in the first link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage

edit- oh and ya, the only reason we know about the 9 year old is because she filed for divorce. If her husband had raped her, which would of been legal, she couldn't of got divorced

http://www.faqs.org/childhood/A-Ar/Age-of-Consent.html

 

[Blanky]

Here's a good read on people getting married to 7 years olds, even in America up to at least 1900

http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/

How exactly does this apply to people in 2014?

 

[Orignal Earl]

How exactly does this apply to people in 2014?

You must of missed all the peeps that enjoy calling the Muslims's prophet a pedo.
I thought maybe if they learned a little about child marriage at least a few of them might be able to move on

 

[Fern]

You must of missed all the peeps that enjoy calling the Muslims's prophet a pedo.
I thought maybe if they learned a little about child marriage at least a few of them might be able to move on

This is current:

The rules for how militants should handle their slaves follow. Among the most shocking are that it is “permissible” to rape a female slave “immediately after taking possession of her” and that it is “permissible to have intercourse with the female slave who hasn't reached puberty if she is fit for intercourse”, without explanation of what that means.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...shing-and-raping-female-captives-9915913.html

I wonder where they got the idea that this is permissible today?

Fern

 

[Orignal Earl]

This is current:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...shing-and-raping-female-captives-9915913.html

I wonder where they got the idea that this is permissible today?

Fern

ISIS?
Are they now the go to for you guys to bash Muslims
Should I google up a couple thousand American pedos and point out this is how Americans are.
That must be why the gov had to make it against the law..if they didn't Americans would be raping children left and right < yes that's sarcasm