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Lifer
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Am I the only one who thought "Wow Zimbabwe couldn't even buy an iPhone right now"
 

badb0y

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If you think Zimbabwe is better off now then how it was before, you're a dumbass.
 

Dari

Lifer
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What do they consider them as then? Do not confuse Europeans, Asians with White, Colored or African (black). They do not consider you to be African. If you ask why they will tell you BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE. Simple.

On the 'flip side' - Zimbabwe - was handed one of the wealthiest countries in the WORLD (eg a currency that was worth more than the USA Dollar, etc) - what is it today..? Competing with Ethiopia to be the most desolate hell-hole on the planet..? Please explain..

As for "can't say they don't deserve it" Who put those leaders in power?

They are considered yellow. Also, as is usually the case, they took it.
 

werepossum

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Actually the problem WAS that the gov't took farms away from whites. Even if the land hadn't been give to Mugabe's goons you'd be giving it to people who have no capital, no experience at large scale commercial farming and no equipment. Congratulations, you just turned a big agricultural producer into a subsistence farm.
Well said.

Of course you can. They do it all day every day in China and Russia.



No it is not. New government, new rules. Obviously, the black government did not feel that they deserved it (and they didn't). Those lands were taken from blacks when the British colonized the area and legitimized their theft with laws. The new black government did the exact same thing.
The land was not farmed (in modern, high intensity methods) before the whites took it over; they brought in farming and irrigation expertise and made the land produce. Farming commercially (especially in a near-desert region) is not a technically trivial activity, and having the approved skin color does not change that. There simply is no way to take wealth-producing enterprises from those who know how to operate them and giving them to people you better like without suffering from the loss of much of that produced wealth.

That's enough for a lifetime supply of Ramen noodles. What the problem?
LOL
 

BeauCharles

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That is africa and that why a country like Botswana invited white farmers to farm in their country and protect them like gold.

Botswana's actually led by people who have a clue. After independence they actually had enough sense to not go on some revenge campaign. They stayed close to Britain and didn't push the whites out. They sought foreign investment and expertise and now their per capita income is $15,000 a year - which is really good for Africa. Gaberone is a clean, safe smaller city and the country is the least corrupt in Africa.
 

ichy

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Botswana's actually led by people who have a clue. After independence they actually had enough sense to not go on some revenge campaign. They stayed close to Britain and didn't push the whites out.

Zimbabwe initially did the same thing. There was sort of an informal agreement that whites would be allowed to live in peace as long as they stayed out of politics. That formula worked very well until the mid to late 1990s at which point the country went to shit.
 

Silver Prime

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My friend just went last year to visit his grandpa for the first time.

Africa---everything kill you dea.
 

randomrogue

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There's probably some parts of Zimbabwe that are leaning towards sub-tropical. They're not southern California sub-tropical but they aren't Congo tropical either.
 

BeauCharles

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There's probably some parts of Zimbabwe that are leaning towards sub-tropical. They're not southern California sub-tropical but they aren't Congo tropical either.

Actually, while its on the southern edge of the tropics much of the country consists of a high plateau (Harare is at 4900 ft, Bulawayo 4500 ft) and the elevation keeps it in comfortable "spring-like" temperatures year round. Awesome piece of real estate before that senile old thug got hold of it.
 

Dari

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Actually, while its on the southern edge of the tropics much of the country consists of a high plateau (Harare is at 4900 ft, Bulawayo 4500 ft) and the elevation keeps it in comfortable "spring-like" temperatures year round. Awesome piece of real estate before that senile old thug got hold of it.

Yeah. I've been there and I never thought of it as tropical at all, unlike, say, Liberia or Congo.
 

Silver Prime

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Parts of Africa are subtropical - Swaziland, Morocco and Tunisia at the least. I think all of Zimbabwe is tropical though.

Thats what I ment. Here in hawaii our side nanakuli is more so known as the country side where its hot an dry, while... by waimanalo theres some thick jungles there, more so called rain forest now. But still Hawaii is refered to as tropical. It depends I guess if Zimbabwe is as the other guy said an all desert, than...I dont know.
 

werepossum

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Zimbabwe is tropical
Yes, Zimbabwe is in the tropics and has a tropical rainy season, but most of it is veld, dry grassland outside the rainy season. Rainfall during winter months is virtually nil, and Zimbabwe's agriculture is most severely affected by drought. Without irrigation, most winter crops are not viable. Ask a Zimbabwe farmer what is his most essential piece of equipment and it's likely to be his irrigation pump. But I do take your point; what I said was not really what I wished to convey.
 

randomrogue

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Zim has a wet and dry season and looking back I'd say I saw quite a few different climates there. I mostly remember the tropical parts though since I spent the most time there. The southern area by Vic Falls and the Zambezi is tropical. Great Zimbabwe wasn't though. Not sure what I'd call that. Bulawayo I have no idea. That was just a nasty hot city with no power. When I think sub-tropical though I think Southern California and I didn't see anything like that there. It rains too much there.

Temperate with tropical regions? Tropical with temperate regions? Tropical with highlands? It's not a desert though which is what started this whole thing and it's definitely in the tropics.
 

werepossum

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Thats what I ment. Here in hawaii our side nanakuli is more so known as the country side where its hot an dry, while... by waimanalo theres some thick jungles there, more so called rain forest now. But still Hawaii is refered to as tropical. It depends I guess if Zimbabwe is as the other guy said an all desert, than...I dont know.
:) That other guy was me; I said near-desert, referring to the high veld which outside the rainy season is very dry and requires irrigation for most crops. It's not near-desert in terms of total rainfall because of the monsoons.
 

Silver Prime

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:) That other guy was me; I said near-desert, referring to the high veld which outside the rainy season is very dry and requires irrigation for most crops. It's not near-desert in terms of total rainfall because of the monsoons.

Well like said, I really dont know that much about Zimbabwe other than the basics.

The song from Bob marley

A few pictures

A few doumentrys on animal planet

Not that much, I dont know anything of its eco system.

Just pointing out that africa has alot of the tropics too.
^_^