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cubby1223

Lifer
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Didn't the leader who f'd up the country, basically hand over the country's entire natural resources to China in exchange for his own personal safety?

I have a $100 Trillion Zimbabwe currency note, I'll sell it back to them for $1 million real dollars, that works out in Zimbabwe's favor, right? There's no way a $100 trillion note versus $1 million works out to less valuable, right?
 

Dari

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Compare infant mortality, health care delivery, malnutrition, etc etc etc. We DO know that people were better off in Rhodesia. You're just an ignorant asshole or a troll.

No you do not. Some people would rather live in abject poverty under a government they can call their own rather than as slaves under one alien to them.

So basically you think that if you followed Stalin's ideology but brought in some foreigners as labor it would have been better? That's brilliant.

Rhodesia and Nyasaland today are pretty fucked up. Luckily for Malawi they just got a new President (the first woman president in Africa) so hopefully things will get better. However the day can't come soon enough that Mugabe drops dead.

Stalinist?No idea WTF you're talking about.
 

Dari

Lifer
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Why is it that when white people go to colored countries its call "colonizing" and its okay to kick the colonizers out.

But if colored people move to white countries they are immigrants and if you don't bend over backward to support them you are a racist?

Also do you have in proof the British colonists stole the land instead of taking either unused land or buying land from natives?

You are a goddamn idiot.

Taking land away from its owners is never acceptable. Ever. In any context.

Sure it is.
 

ichy

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No you do not. Some people would rather live in abject poverty under a government they can call their own rather than as slaves under one alien to them.

Are you honestly that fucking stupid? No sane citizen of Zimbabwe would say that they government is "their own." It is a brutal dictatorship where political opponents of the government are arrested, assaulted, raped, tortured and murdered. People are just as oppressed as they were when it was Rhodesia, except now the oppressors are significantly less competent at running the country.
 

Dari

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Are you honestly that fucking stupid? No sane citizen of Zimbabwe would say that they government is "their own." It is a brutal dictatorship where political opponents of the government are arrested, assaulted, raped, tortured and murdered. People are just as oppressed as they were when it was Rhodesia, except now the oppressors are significantly less competent at running the country.

Of course it's their own. Now there is no color barrier to being dictator. Africans' reverence for leaders tells me that most people aspire to be kings, not bureaucrats. Look up and down the continent. One dictator is always replaced by another. It is their wish so stay the fuck out of it.
 

ichy

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Of course it's their own. Now there is no color barrier to being dictator. Africans' reverence for leaders tells me that most people aspire to be kings, not bureaucrats. Look up and down the continent. One dictator is always replaced by another. It is their wish so stay the fuck out of it.

So you're saying that it's ok for a dictator to steal, murder and starve people as long as he's black, but a white dictatorship that's less brutal is unacceptable? You are a racist piece of shit and I hate you.
 

Dari

Lifer
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So you're saying that it's ok for a dictator to steal, murder and starve people as long as he's black, but a white dictatorship that's less brutal is unacceptable? You are a racist piece of shit and I hate you.

It's the will of the people. They can do as they like in their country. The British never belonged there anyway.
 

Dari

Lifer
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Notice that is exactly what you said with one replacement.

Except the Jews did not go into Germany as invaders and killed countless Germans and took their best land and turned Germans into virtual slaves.

You're like a really bad accident. I know I shouldn't look but I feel compelled to.
 

Gintaras

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What google has to do with? btw, if you can read(in your given link):

The figures here are represented as a percentage of annual gross domestic product. The public debt relative information provided by national sources is not always objective and true, given the fact that there is no independent research in these matters.

Just wonder...Where do you see US GDP - Gross Domestic Product(Gross domestic product (GDP) is the market value of all officially recognized final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time.)? @ Wallmart? Car dealerships? any other places?
Can a Wall Street - Pinocchio Story, to be considered as GDP?

When I do mostly encounter US GDP? @ ATM Machines, when I do need cash...It is a big part of US GDP - Federal Reserve Money Printing Machines...

Now, US $ is recognized worldwide, because all transactions worldwide in Oil is in US Dollars and many countries have a lot of US Dollars in their currency reserves.
Imagine, what would happen, if overnight, all Transactions for Oil would be changed to another currency...What would happen with a mighty US$?

Why IRAN? Are Really US upset because of their nuclear stuff?
Or maybe, that Iran is selling oil to China in chinese currency and in return, Iran is buying goods from China with currency they got from Oil sales...NO US $$$ involved - it's pretty scary...It's actually, how an ECONOMY REALLY SHOULD WORK...
 

Zebo

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Actually the problem WAS that the gov't took farms away from whites. Even if the land hadn't been give to Mugabe's goons you'd be giving it to people who have no capital, no experience at large scale commercial farming and no equipment. Congratulations, you just turned a big agricultural producer into a subsistence farm.

They took the capital and equipment. so thats not a problem.

You think the white farmer did all the work on his farm? Naw man he had blacks working for him that intimately knew the experience end.

I'm not saying its right to to take these farms but there were more qualified people to give them to. But it didnt go down like that. Mugbes men got them all. A bunch of thugs.
 

klinc

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Didn't the leader who f'd up the country, basically hand over the country's entire natural resources to China in exchange for his own personal safety?

I have a $100 Trillion Zimbabwe currency note, I'll sell it back to them for $1 million real dollars, that works out in Zimbabwe's favor, right? There's no way a $100 trillion note versus $1 million works out to less valuable, right?

you can wipe your arse with that paper cause the Zim dollar has been suspended.

I am sorry to say but native Africans can not farm. They do farm but believe in making a vegetable garden on a 1000 hektar farm and call that farming. That is africa and that why a country like Botswana invited white farmers to farm in their country and protect them like gold. Cause that farmer are not only help feed the country it help sustain the eConomy.

Other african countries have done it as well by inviting white farmers to farm there. The state gives them ground and look after them. Just have a look in Africa which country have the most production with Africa.
 

klinc

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It's the will of the people. They can do as they like in their country. The British never belonged there anyway.

and the Natives in Zimbabwe were tribes who fled out of South Africa cause the Zulu's were slaughtering them. Like those natives they were born in Zimbabwe grew up there and even developed their own accent. They paid taxes and feed half of Zimbabwe. So they have just as much as a human right in that country.
 

klinc

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They took the capital and equipment. so thats not a problem.

You think the white farmer did all the work on his farm? Naw man he had blacks working for him that intimately knew the experience end.

I'm not saying its right to to take these farms but there were more qualified people to give them to. But it didnt go down like that. Mugbes men got them all. A bunch of thugs.

Have you ever been on a farm in Africa? Judging by your answer I take that as a no. Do you think farming is a guy just giving orders to lots of workers and living luxury? Well news flash its not that is why the workers didn't have a revolt and took it from the farmer when they could. That is Mugabe's men had to come and threaten them as well. Because they know how to drive a tractor or use other farming equipment but looking after crops or what to do when its not going well they don't.
 

Dari

Lifer
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you can wipe your arse with that paper cause the Zim dollar has been suspended.

I am sorry to say but native Africans can not farm. They do farm but believe in making a vegetable garden on a 1000 hektar farm and call that farming. That is africa and that why a country like Botswana invited white farmers to farm in their country and protect them like gold. Cause that farmer are not only help feed the country it help sustain the eConomy.

Other african countries have done it as well by inviting white farmers to farm there. The state gives them ground and look after them. Just have a look in Africa which country have the most production with Africa.

Africa has over 1m Chinese farmers. The continent is fucked. Can't say they don't deserve it cause their fucking leaders don't give a damn.
 

klinc

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Africa has over 1m Chinese farmers. The continent is fucked. Can't say they don't deserve it cause their fucking leaders don't give a damn.

And a Chinese farmer is what? They class them ad white. Dutch, chinese, american, english you have a white skin you are white. How did those Chinese farmers get there? How did they get a farm? They worked their arse of to get it just like any other farmer. No free bees were given to anyone.

The biggest mistake ever made in this world was for Europeans to go to Africa. No Government would have existed in Africa if the Europeans never set foot on African soil. Do not look at Africa through your race glasses. Look at it from a culture perspective. Greed and revenge is one of the common laws you will find in most African tribes. They use to go plunder and slaughter other tribes who managed to build up any wealth. So if you are in command with the numbers you do not have to work hard. Just keep them uneducated.

When countries got their independence all the boundaries were removed. They continued to do what they have been doing before the Europeans set foot there but just with modern weapons and modern terrorism.
 
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Gintaras

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Africa has over 1m Chinese farmers. The continent is fucked. Can't say they don't deserve it cause their fucking leaders don't give a damn.

What's different from US?: Americans buy chinesse made good, jobs been outsoursed and leaders don't give a damn...Part of North America(not whole continent) is fucked up...
~ 40 millions living under poverty - more x3 Whole Belarus under Dictator Lukashenko...and many in Belarus doing pretty good - I do communicate with some people from Belarus - average living standarts people...
 

klinc

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What's different from US?: Americans buy chinesse made good, jobs been outsoursed and leaders don't give a damn...Part of North America(not whole continent) is fucked up...
~ 40 millions living under poverty - more x3 Whole Belarus under Dictator Lukashenko...and many in Belarus doing pretty good - I do communicate with some people from Belarus - average living standarts people...

That is Belarus its not Africa. In America you do not sit with over 22000 cultures which will murder anyone their chief command them to murder. Keep the voters uneducated and you will control over them with clever manoeuvres. Chinese is a drop of water in the hoover dam considering farmers in Africa.
 

Dari

Lifer
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And a Chinese farmer is what? They class them ad white. Dutch, chinese, american, english you have a white skin you are white. How did those Chinese farmers get there? How did they get a farm? They worked their arse of to get it just like any other farmer. No free bees were given to anyone.

The biggest mistake ever made in this world was for Europeans to go to Africa. No Government would have existed in Africa if the Europeans never set foot on African soil. Do not look at Africa through your race glasses. Look at it from a culture perspective. Greed and revenge is one of the common laws you will find in most African tribes. They use to go plunder and slaughter other tribes who managed to build up any wealth. So if you are in command with the numbers you do not have to work hard. Just keep them uneducated.

When countries got their independence all the boundaries were removed. They continued to do what they have been doing before the Europeans set foot there but just with modern weapons and modern terrorism.

Africans do not consider Chinese people to be white.
 

klinc

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Africans do not consider Chinese people to be white.

What do they consider them as then? Do not confuse Europeans, Asians with White, Colored or African (black). They do not consider you to be African. If you ask why they will tell you BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE. Simple.

On the 'flip side' - Zimbabwe - was handed one of the wealthiest countries in the WORLD (eg a currency that was worth more than the USA Dollar, etc) - what is it today..? Competing with Ethiopia to be the most desolate hell-hole on the planet..? Please explain..

As for "can't say they don't deserve it" Who put those leaders in power?

HARARE, Mar 25, 2011 (IPS) - The identity of as many as a thousand decomposing bodies in an abandoned mine in Mount Darwin, 100 kilometers north of Harare, may never be known. "War veterans" associated with the ruling Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front party are removing them with no regard for preserving evidence.
 
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