Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

[biostud]

Same here.
My 5600x / RX6800xt /32GB is more than adequate for what I use my computer for these days.

I’d like to upgrade but I’ll probably buy myself a second hand Mazda Miata before upgrading my PC.
Most of the time I use my work laptop anyway.

I'm pimping my grill instead when I need to buy new hardware and learning Linux when it comes to PC.

 

[Win2012R2]

The former.

That's awesome then!

This should hopefully make space for some more reasonable (<400W) TDP scenarios with frequency dropped a little bit, should be some yummy 64 cores.

 

[adroc_thurston]

This should hopefully make space for some more reasonable (<400W) TDP scenarios with frequency dropped a little bit, should be some yummy 64 cores.

SP8 is the mainstream (350W) platform and it's 96c Z6 classic.
Very very good also.

 

[Win2012R2]

SP8 is the mainstream (350W) platform and it's 96c Z6 classic.

Will be noice when they are finally available to buy sometime around late 2027...

 

[adroc_thurston]

Will be noice when they are finally available to buy sometime around late 2027...

No, it's simul-launch with the SP7 one.

 

[basix]

SP8 is the mainstream (350W) platform and it's 96c Z6 classic.
Very very good also.

So you can attach 4x 32C CCDs or 8x 12C CCDs to a single server IOD?

Any chances of seeing >96C Zen classic then?

 

[Kepler_L2]

So you can attach 4x 32C CCDs or 8x 12C CCDs to a single server IOD?

Any chances of seeing >96C Zen classic then?

SP8 is also dual IOD

 

[adroc_thurston]

So you can attach 4x 32C CCDs or 8x 12C CCDs to a single server IOD?

Nyo.
SP8 has it's very own set of sIOD halves.

Any chances of seeing >96C Zen classic then?

Zero.

 

[Joe NYC]

So you can attach 4x 32C CCDs or 8x 12C CCDs to a single server IOD?

Any chances of seeing >96C Zen classic then?

Probably not until Zen 7, which is supposed to have 16c classic core CCDs.

 

[Joe NYC]

SemiAnalysis now resorting to moving goal posts.

From: Mi450 delays and N2 challenges
To: Even if things ship on time, they will take time to assemble and put into production

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023953458311667756

 

[adroc_thurston]

SemiAnalysis now resorting to moving goal posts.

that's dolan for you.

 

[basix]

Probably not until Zen 7, which is supposed to have 16c classic core CCDs.

Sure, if only with Dual-IOD up to 8 CCDs can be assembled, 96C is the max. configuration for Zen 6 classic.

Anyways, more cores besides of Zen 6c are probably not needed. Zen 6c features also 4MB/core L3$ and I expect peak clock rates to be a little bit closer together (Zen 5 = 5.0 GHz vs. 3.7 GHz)

 

[marees]

SemiAnalysis now resorting to moving goal posts.

From: Mi450 delays and N2 challenges
To: Even if things ship on time, they will take time to assemble and put into production

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023953458311667756

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024105827116736730

 

[Jan Olšan]

Well, AMD could of course not be quite honest, companies are under pressure to keep up facades and so on.

But at the same time the SA dude was a common teenage redditor what, five years ago? Then he silenced his accounts for a year or two and re-emerged as analyst projecting vast knowledge and insights, schooling CEOs on how to do stuff and so on.

I don't expect that much reliability from such profile. Did not quite predict Intel's troubles in his reddit days, iirc?

 

[adroc_thurston]

But at the same time the SA dude was a common teenage redditor what, five years ago?

The reality is far, far funnier than that.

Then he silenced his accounts for a year or two and re-emerged as analyst projecting vast knowledge and insights, schooling CEOs on how to do stuff and so on.

My bad, yes.

 

[Kepler_L2]

SemiAnalysis now resorting to moving goal posts.

From: Mi450 delays and N2 challenges
To: Even if things ship on time, they will take time to assemble and put into production

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023953458311667756

How is this different than NVIDIA? They "launched" Blackwell over a year ago but most systems are coming online now.

 

[Saylick]

How is this different than NVIDIA? They "launched" Blackwell over a year ago but most systems are coming online now.

It’s different because Nvidia, being the darling of the AI boom, has the whole analyst industry by the balls.

 

[Thibsie]

It’s different because Nvidia, being the darling of the AI boom, has the whole analyst industry by the balls.

Just as Intel until recently

 

[Doug S]

Ah yes, the famous Angel's Landing trail:
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(Not me, just a random Google photo I found)

But I have done the hike and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

That's an awesome trail, well worth the "risk". There's nothing rickety about it. You do need decent grip strength so you can hold your weight with your hands if disaster strikes and you lose your footing and not one but both feet slip out from under you. Anyone who can do a dead hang for 10-15 seconds should be fine though.

 

[Win2012R2]

No, it's simul-launch with the SP7 one.

I meant retail availability, will take ages, unless it's with very high markup

 

[adroc_thurston]

I meant retail availability, will take ages, unless it's with very high markup

No, it's a mainstream platform.

 

[Win2012R2]

No, it's a mainstream platform.

Took forever for mainstream 4/5 gen Epycs to appear in retail, this one seems even more desireable with much higher demand for it among hyperscalers.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Took forever for mainstream 4/5 gen Epycs to appear in retail

Retail? You mean PIB? Who the hell even buys server CPUs like that lmao.

 

[Win2012R2]

Retail? You mean PIB? Who the hell even buys server CPUs like that lmao.

NewEgg level - also known as retail. Where do you buy yours, on Ebay or at the back of a fab?

 

[adroc_thurston]

Where do you buy yours, on Ebay or at the back of a fab?

It's a server CPU, you buy it inside a server.
Comes with a server. Just the way things are.

NewEgg level - also known as retail

Lmao man, no one DIYs server parts. Get real.