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Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

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adroc_thurston said:
Idk core count hardly matters above like 6c.
Will be above 8c once 10th gen consoles ship and give gamedevs 2 more cores to play around with.

What you want is 1t.
Good news, you're getting it!
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Then why is AMD releasing 9950X3D2, which provides X3D cache for 16C/32T mainly useful for gaming?
 
adroc_thurston said:
There's gotta be a sucker that buys it.
Worthless part otherwise.
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Or you’re wrong about it’s usefulness and thus implicitly the use of up to 16C/32T. Does not make sense for AMD to release it unless X3D2 is going to perform better than X3D.

At least you’re admitting 9950X3D2 will happen now. You denied it like forever.
 
Fjodor2001 said:
Or you’re wrong about it’s usefulness and thus implicitly the use of up to 16C/32T. Does not make sense for AMD to release it unless X3D2 is going to perform better than X3D.

At least you’re admitting 9950X3D2 will happen now. You denied it like forever.
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It makes sense if the margins make sense. Stop making it out that companies short term plans never ever change. Adroc is bullish, sure, but the consensus is that dual X3D won't make that much difference, BUT AMD are probably looking at the market and seeing people still pay through nose for GPUs, and now RAM.

Why wouldn't they release a part that doesn't really make sense, but priced at $999, means margins are excellent, their internals now say people will buy it, and their 2 years of packaging expertise means it's less risk now...
 
carrotmania said:
It makes sense if the margins make sense. Stop making it out that companies short term plans never ever change. Adroc is bullish, sure, but the consensus is that dual X3D won't make that much difference, BUT AMD are probably looking at the market and seeing people still pay through nose for GPUs, and now RAM.

Why wouldn't they release a part that doesn't really make sense, but priced at $999, means margins are excellent, their internals now say people will buy it, and their 2 years of packaging expertise means it's less risk now...
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He said 9950X3D2 would not happen. He was wrong. End of story.

There was no disclaimer about if this or that mentioned. He simply said it would not happen.
 
Fjodor2001 said:
He said 9950X3D2 would not happen. He was wrong. End of story.

There was no disclaimer about if this or that mentioned. He simply said it would not happen.
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Meh, it shouldn't happen. When it inevitably isn't important for, well, anything really, I wonder if the people like you clamoring for it will be disappointed
 
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Fjodor2001 said:
No. Absolutely not. We left the 1 core era about 2 decades ago.
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Fjodor2001 said:
No. And especially not for mainstream / general laptops.
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No, mainstream laptops (and pretty much everything non-DTR class) quite literally are glorified javascript crunchers, where single-threaded performance is king.
You're running a browser? Great, javascript it is. Microsoft 365? Google Docs? You're running JS as well. Slack? Notion? VSCode? JS again. More often than not, chances are what you're running is either a React Native app, or worse, something WebView-based. Hell, you can't even launch the startup menu without tapping into React Native nowadays.
 
Fjodor2001 said:
He said 9950X3D2 would not happen. He was wrong. End of story.

There was no disclaimer about if this or that mentioned. He simply said it would not happen.
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Just. Stop.
He's big headed sure. But it's obvious that AMD weren't considering offering 3DX2. Adroc doesn't, and doesn't claim to, have knowledge of AMDs internal margins and defect rates. Sure, he speaks in absolutes, but anyone smart can see that AMD must be feeling this is just a way to wring some more money out of enthusiasts, while their process is mature and there's zero competition from Intel. A business decision has changed, and recently. You need to get over it. You're as bad as he is with your definites, and you add even less to the conversation than he does.
Stop.
 
carrotmania said:
Just. Stop.
He's big headed sure. But it's obvious that AMD weren't considering offering 3DX2. Adroc doesn't, and doesn't claim to, have knowledge of AMDs internal margins and defect rates. Sure, he speaks in absolutes, but anyone smart can see that AMD must be feeling this is just a way to wring some more money out of enthusiasts, while their process is mature and there's zero competition from Intel. A business decision has changed, and recently. You need to get over it. You're as bad as he is with your definites, and you add even less to the conversation than he does.
Stop.
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Absolutely, it's a pointless product but if they make money from some, so be it. This poster will be first in line to crow if it doesn't add much to performance though and will tout it as an AMD fail, it's so predictable
 
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