Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

[poke01]

A0 is very much out lol, it's not looking good.

Wait even with NanoFlex, NVL A0 is stuck at 5.7GHz?

 

[Kaffeekenan]

A0 is very much out lol, it's not looking good.

B2 is very much out as well lol. It looks sooooo incredible.

 

[poke01]

I don’t believe that for a second, cause if that is true, Intel should held their heads in shame

 

[adroc_thurston]

Wait even with NanoFlex, NVL A0 is stuck at 5.7GHz?

yeah.
They're fat cores.

cause if that is true, Intel should held their heads in shame

I mean they've sacked IDC basically.
Unified Core is under Stephen Robinson.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I mean they've sacked IDC basically.

They must be working on something. To justify their wages.

 

[Josh128]

I predict zen 6 will be 40% faster than zen 5 but have lower ipc 🤣🙄

Bulldozer 2.0

 

[Josh128]

A0 is very much out lol, it's not looking good.

Even with deuce nanoo?

 

[adroc_thurston]

Even with deuce nano?

It's a good node, not a magic stick.

 

[Josh128]

It's a good node, not a magic stick.

Well, the low clocks might be indicative of ultra high IPC ala Apple Fire cores, and not a design flop. With only 8 or 16 P cores and the rest being shat cores, Im would think Intel pulled out all the stops to make them as wide and all consuming as possible. Could they pull another Alder Lake P core miracle that will leapfrog AMD again like they did with Zen 3 (P cores)?

 

[poke01]

Well, the low clocks might be indicative of ultra high IPC ala Apple Fire cores, and not a design flop. With only 8 or 16 P cores and the rest being shat cores, Im would think Intel pulled out all the stops to make them as wide and all consuming as possible. Could they pull another Alder Lake P core miracle that will leapfrog AMD again like they did with Zen 3 (P cores)?

A 11-12 wide core at 5.7GHz would be cool to see

 

[adroc_thurston]

Well, the low clocks might be indicative of ultra high IPC ala Apple Fire cores,

Low teens IPC over LNC.

With only 8 or 16 P cores and the rest being shat cores, Im would think Intel pulled out all the stops to make them as wide and all consuming as possible

Their cores have been that since SNC.

Could they pull another Alder Lake P core miracle that will leapfrog AMD again like they did with Zen 3 (P cores)?

Honestly this is just cute.

 

[poke01]

Low teens IPC over LNC

I guess Zen6 is the same but with higher clocks and better cache system.

 

[adroc_thurston]

I guess Zen6 is the same but with higher clocks and better cache system.

Yeah that's kinda the point.
ISO node AMD just gonna win.

 

[fastandfurious6]

and we know all that 1 year before release

 

[eek2121]

and we know all that 1 year before release

Less than a year*

 

[igor_kavinski]

Less than a year*

How sure are you? Next year is supposed to be Zen 5 Refresh with official CUDIMM support, no?

 

[RTX2080]

How sure are you? Next year is supposed to be Zen 5 Refresh with official CUDIMM support, no?

There was a reliable source saying new CPU and GPU from AMD were being scheduled in 2H26. But I never heard anything related to Zen5 refresh which is other than Gorgon Point.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Next year is supposed to be Zen 5 Refresh with official CUDIMM support, no?

The what

 

[511]

It's kinda hard to get only 5% fmax outta two shrinks.
Then again, Intel gets 0%.

Intel 7 is way overtuned it gets 6 Ghz while AMD does 5.7 on N5/N4P

 

[511]

A0 is very much out lol, it's not looking good.

Intel A0 are a mess

 

[igor_kavinski]

The what

Is CUDIMM support coming to Ryzens, Yes or No? Because if it's supported by Zen 6 then why Zen 5 on the same mobo won't be able to take advantage of it?

 

[MS_AT]

Is CUDIMM support coming to Ryzens, Yes or No? Because if it's supported by Zen 6 then why Zen 5 on the same mobo won't be able to take advantage of it?

While I am ignorant, I would expect that CUDIMM due to clock buffering has to be supported by memory controller. Memory controller is in iOD. Zen6 will get new iOD. There is no reason for Zen5 to get new IOD, is there? Keep in mind that people buy mostly single CCD SKUs, these are almost BW bottlenecked by iOD link at 6000 MT/s. Why would you want more? The dual CCD SKUs still require care to use more BW so the benefit is situational anyway.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Intel 7 is way overtuned it gets 6 Ghz while AMD does 5.7 on N5/N4P

point is Intel's getting the same babby fmax on N3b and N2p both.

Intel A0 are a mess

well yeah, but they've charted the v/f and its uh oh stinky.

Is CUDIMM support coming to Ryzens, Yes or No? Because if it's supported by Zen 6 then why Zen 5 on the same mobo won't be able to take advantage of it?

who cares, you're not getting anything out of higher membw on Granite Ridge.

 

[511]

point is Intel's getting the same babby fmax on N3b and N2p both.

That's what happens when your entire team is scooped by Huwaei and Nvidia but this is ridiculous

 

[adroc_thurston]

That's what happens when your entire team is scooped by Huwaei and Nvidia but this is ridiculous

hey that's normal, Intel GFX R&D guys got swallowed whole by AMD.