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Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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MrTeal said:
It's also nice to see that you get basically all the performance of the 9800X3D with a cheap set of 6000CL30. US$85 for a 32GB kit is a lot more palatable than dropping ~$150 on some 7800 or more on CUDIMM.
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Not really, it's just by magic of JEDEC you are basically at the same timings regardless of the MT/s "frequency". You have to tune secondaries manually to see any effect from better memory kits
 
Yikes. This is pure domination. I'll pick one of these up next year during black Friday season if MC has a deal. Not worth it for me until I upgrade my 7900XT. Intel needs to get their poop in a group in a hurry or AMD might go full Nvidia pricing strategy moving forward.
 
Rigg said:
Intel needs to get their poop in a group in a hurry or AMD
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It should not be hard. Can't they glue an even bigger cache die under Lion Cove next year? Or did they not 'waste' space on TSVs?

Edit: I realized this is the Zen 5 thread. I guess it might be off topic.
 
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Rigg said:
Yikes. This is pure domination. I'll pick one of these up next year during black Friday season if MC has a deal. Not worth it for me until I upgrade my 7900XT. Intel needs to get their poop in a group in a hurry or AMD might go full Nvidia pricing strategy moving forward.
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Intel went doo doo. Wake me up when they produce an actually competitive product.
 
Add maxed out spiderman to the list of big gains if you use a 7900XTX like myself. Fabio/ancient gameplays chart.

Tom's is 4090 and only uses high and no RT. TPUs numbers are gaslighting garbage as no one would use 23H2 with their Ryzen. He also tests areas where the CPU load is obviously lighter than what other reviewers are testing in the same games.

I wonder what this chart looks like with the 4090?

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Rigg said:
Yikes. This is pure domination. I'll pick one of these up next year during black Friday season if MC has a deal. Not worth it for me until I upgrade my 7900XT. Intel needs to get their poop in a group in a hurry or AMD might go full Nvidia pricing strategy moving forward.
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Your dreaming, a deal on this chip. Hell nah. It’s 2 generations ahead of Intel.

The 7800XD tho absolutely, but by then it should be mostly clearance deals for zen4x3d.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
Add maxed out spiderman to the list of big gains if you use a 7900XTX like myself. Fabio/ancient gameplays chart.

Tom's is 4090 and only uses high and no RT. TPUs numbers are gaslighting garbage as no one would use 23H2 with their Ryzen. He also tests areas where the CPU load is obviously lighter than what other reviewers are testing in the same games.

I wonder what this chart looks like with the 4090?

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What is up with W1zzard at TPU and Paul Alcorn at TH? They seem to be such Intel shills. Nowhere near Userbenchmark levels, but still...
 
poke01 said:
Your dreaming, a deal on this chip. Hell nah. It’s 2 generations ahead of Intel.

The 7800XD tho absolutely, but by then it should be mostly clearance deals for zen4x3d.
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It's microcenter 😉 there will be deals on the 9800X3D next year.
Thunder 57 said:
What is up with W1zzard at TPU and Paul Alcorn at TH? They seem to be such Intel shills. Nowhere near Userbenchmark levels, but still...
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Long and lucrative histories with Intel SMG is my guess. Tom's F1 24 numbers are GPU bound. GN tested at high and it's merking everything but its older bro -

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DAPUNISHER said:
Add maxed out spiderman to the list of big gains if you use a 7900XTX like myself. Fabio/ancient gameplays chart.

Tom's is 4090 and only uses high and no RT. TPUs numbers are gaslighting garbage as no one would use 23H2 with their Ryzen. He also tests areas where the CPU load is obviously lighter than what other reviewers are testing in the same games.

I wonder what this chart looks like with the 4090?

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Much higher, heck even a 4090 is not enough this cpu. Needs 5090 that’s how ahead this cpu is.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
TPUs numbers are gaslighting garbage as no one would use 23H2 with their Ryzen
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In their review summary in platform paragraph they write:
AMD recommended testing on Windows 11 23H2, which is what we did. Currently, 24H2 just has too many bugs, and it looks like Microsoft isn't exactly fast at getting those fixed.
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Make of that what you will, just pointing it out😉
 
TESKATLIPOKA said:
Can't say I am happy with the power draw. 65W would have been nicer.
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Is this satire ?
 
igor_kavinski said:
Maybe when they type loose, they mean lose with double O for extra emphasis 😛
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My TLDR review -

Back in my competitive full contact karate days, our training mentality was Ikken Hissatsu. It wasn't the LARPer teh deadly interpretation, it was synonymous with Mike Tyson's throwing with bad intentions philosophy. That's what the 9800X3D just did. It Saitama'd everything Intel ever made for gaming with one punch.

Thank you for attending my TED talk.
 
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