Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Abwx]

rant

Why can no one on this forum spell loser correctly?

/rant

Lots of non native english speakers by here.

 

[inquiss]

I know they increased TDP from 65W->120W so they can increase clocks, but I question If It was really worth It.

Yeah, it was worth it. Some people are really hard to please, some people are, aren't they?

 

[Rigg]

Your dreaming, a deal on this chip. Hell nah. It’s 2 generations ahead of Intel.

The 7800XD tho absolutely, but by then it should be mostly clearance deals for zen4x3d.

We'll see. I thought I was dreaming when I bought 4 7800X3D's under $250 (including one below $200) between last November and May of this year. A year from now odds are extremely good that there is a Micro Center discount on these that's well below MSRP. Its hard to say how much longer 7800x3D remains in stock. It seems unlikely they'll keep producing it and it will probably go back down in price (at least at Micro Center) very soon. There might not be many of them around by the end of next year.

 

[Thunder 57]

Lots of non native english speakers by here.

True, and when they see it spelled wrong they just go with it not knowing any better.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Different sources. Y-cruncher speedup from 16% to 45% !!!

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review

The AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D represents a leap forward for AMD and can be well worth the premium over the Ryzen 7 9700X.

www.storagereview.com

21% performance improvement in y-cruncher vs. 9700X.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review

Churning out fps like no other chip, buy the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D if every last frame matters to you.

www.club386.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review: king of the hill | Digital Trends

AMD's new Ryzen 7 9800X3D claims the top gaming CPU slot, stealing it away from, well, AMD itself.

www.digitaltrends.com

Y-Cruncher - Seite 5 - Hardwareluxx

AMD lässt Arrow Lake ganz schön alt aussehen: Der Ryzen 7 9800X3D im Test.

www.hardwareluxx.de

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D : Un processeur qui peut tout faire ! : Benchmarks III, page 12

Après nos tests des Ryzen 5 9600X et Ryzen 7 9700X ainsi que des Ryzen 9 9900X et Ryzen 9 9950X, place maintenant au très attendu Ryzen 7 9800... - Benchmarks III, page 12

www.cowcotland.com

Any way you look at it, bodes well for AVX-512 workloads on 9950X3D and Strix Halo!

By the way, if 14900K/KS and 285K were real humans, they would commit seppuku after getting so thoroughly humiliated

 

[igor_kavinski]

True, and when they see it spelled wrong they just go with it not knowing any better.

No, that's how language evolves

There's at least a million people in the world who believe costumer is good for business

But it would sure be interesting to find out what they think lose means if they believe loose means lose

 

[Thunder 57]

No, that's how language evolves

There's at least a million people in the world who believe costumer is good for business

But it would sure be interesting to find out what they think lose means if they believe loose means lose

You mean customer? Or was that the joke? Sorry for the OT. I'll stop.

 

[Markfw]

True, and when they see it spelled wrong they just go with it not knowing any better.

Actually, I have typed it wrong and I have all but a college degree (3 years) but chrome auto-correct fixes it for me.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Found interesting charts here: https://www.digit.in/reviews/pc-components/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-desktop-processor-review.html

Spoiler

 

[igor_kavinski]

This guy: https://www.cgmagonline.com/review/hardware/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-review/

This guy's gonna need bigger pants to contain his 9800X3D!

Spoiler

 

[igor_kavinski]

CP2077 seems to be the only one that likes DDR5-8000.

 

[Abwx]

Since Computerbase made all their tests also with SMT disabled we can get a picture of the SMT gain, although the SMT less is surely working at a slightly higher frequency, wich skew the numbers but that s still indicative.

SMT gain is 31% in Affinity Photo, 35% in CB 2024, 41% in Handbrake 1.8.2, 44% in 7 Zip and 46% in Blender, to wich the SMT less higher frequency % should be added on top, so that s really impressive numbers, no wonder that AMD didnt need to increase the core count vs ARL.

 

[Timorous]

By the way, if 14900K/KS and 285K were real humans, they would commit seppuku after getting so thoroughly humiliated

Pat maybe into that kind of thing...

 

[poke01]

🤡

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854202946428322016

 

[gdansk]

🤡

Here's how the 14900KS can still win: 🍒⛏️

 

[therealmongo]

True, and when they see it spelled wrong they just go with it not knowing any better.

English is my native language, though I live in a country where English is not the native language, not that what I am writing is an excuse.

Here is my explanation

When one pronounces the word "Loose" you put the "uuuu" into the pronounciation not "oooo"
When one pronouces the word "Lose" you put the "oooo" into the pronounciation not "uuuu"

Now flip that to when one wants to say "Loser", you dont say "LoOOOOser", you say LuUUUUuser.

O vs U

 

[Saylick]

Looks like someone already tore into the 9800 X3D.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854399901872140770

 

[inf64]

🤡

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854202946428322016

Framechasers guy in pure copium mode.

 

[majord]

Framechasers guy in pure copium mode.

he's been in copium mode for quite some time , is now starting to hallucinate

 

[fastandfurious6]

damn can you imagine Strix Halo with 3D cache?

leaks should be coming up soon no?

 

[poke01]

damn can you imagine Strix Halo with 3D cache?

leaks should be coming up soon no?

Not happening sadly.

 

[leoneazzurro]

By the way, if 14900K/KS and 285K were real humans, they would commit seppuku after getting so thoroughly humiliated

Some 14900 already did even before the 9800X3D reviews came out...

 

[Ranulf]

Framechasers guy in pure copium mode.

He probably has several chips leftover to sell as custom OC jobs.

 

[coercitiv]

He probably has several chips leftover to sell as custom OC jobs.

and "tuned" memory kits...

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

Is this satire ?

No. Why should It be? 7800X3D is more efficient than 9800X3D. 9800X3D manages higher clockspeed in comparison, but at the cost of power.
But of course It shouldn't really matter in dekstop, If you want to pair It with a 450W GPU, then extra 20-30W doesn't really matter.