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The above image obscures the performance delta between the 9700X and 7700X. We get a limited picture because it pretty much focuses only on the 9700X, there’s just the two token submissions for the 7700X at the bottom.
It does look like there will be tangible improvements across-the-board (including Intel); not just for the 9000 series.
Omitting like for like comparisons just obfuscates the true impact of the targeted changes. It’s quite an unsatisfactory test.
When considering a like for like comparison, the delta is likely going to be similar.
I edited the image a bit to show the different comparisons so it’s easier to see the difference between FPS values:
If we’re just considering VBS being on (because you know security), then the performance increase from 7700X to the 9700X is 10.2% for the 23H2 build, and 13.61% for the 24H2 pre-release build (but this excludes a result on the newer build for the 7700X).
Beyond that though it does look like with VBS off, the 9000 series looks like it does see a bump.
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AMD Explained Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 Benchmark Discrepancies, So We Tested It
AMD just released a blog post that hopes to address some of the frustration voiced by the community regarding its new Ryzen 9000 processors.
Some more numbers with that newer build of Win 11.
Det0x
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Pretty funny, I have already been running Win11 24H2 for the last two months --> all my ES benches have been on this windows versionGuys, have you seen this? This is some next level smoke and mirrors from AMD regarding Ryzen 9000 gaming testing, lol.
AMD promises Windows 11 patch boosting Zen5, Zen 4, and Zen 3 gaming performance - VideoCardz.com
AMD clarifies discrepancies in gaming performance between official data and reviews The company says that Windows patch will improve gaming performance, explains why ‘admin’ account was used for internal testing. AMD published a blog post discussing the disparity between the official gaming...videocardz.com
Maybe thats why i seem to have higher scores than many other Zen5 users 🧐
no one will give you as much as we can promise you
so their official test numbers came from what version of WIN11 or was it just made up ?
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But branch prediction optimizations that will also affect Zen 3 and 4???
Why are those two getting these optimizations so late then?
What could be the nature of these optimizations? Is the Windows scheduler going to give some kind of "hints" to the CPU to enable it to predict better?
An optimization targeting the decode clusters I would've understood but this just sounds ridiculous for AMD to be so late in getting them into Windows.
We 'member:Guys, have you seen this? This is some next level smoke and mirrors from AMD regarding Ryzen 9000 gaming testing, lol.
AMD promises Windows 11 patch boosting Zen5, Zen 4, and Zen 3 gaming performance - VideoCardz.com
AMD clarifies discrepancies in gaming performance between official data and reviews The company says that Windows patch will improve gaming performance, explains why ‘admin’ account was used for internal testing. AMD published a blog post discussing the disparity between the official gaming...
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That's actually the interesting part of this whole ordeal and not if CS will suddenly do 500FPS from 450 FPS
But we will get another batch of youtube videos that will more or less confirm, depending on game selection, that Zen5 is a failure in gaming because it doesn't beat x3d and costs more. Probably good for content creators but puzzling form AMD marketing point of view as it will only reinforce the public opinion of Zen5 being a failure...Lol :
And re Lol :
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So much for the September rumor. it seems 9000X3D is launched at CES 2025:
In case anyone is interested:
videocardz.com
That should lessen the disappointment from a delay in release date for the 9000X3D series.
AMD's top gaming CPU, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, now available at $333 - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D hits $333 price Amazon has lowered the price. Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Source: The Verge Gamers eagerly awaiting the AMD Ryzen 9000 series X3D variants might find a solid alternative in the previous generation, particularly the Zen 4 processors with 3D V-Cache. While the Ryzen 9000...
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That should lessen the disappointment from a delay in release date for the 9000X3D series.
Meh. No dual decode clusters. No chonky AVX-512 FPU. No fine wine elation few years from now
It is not really 'free' performance - Clear Linux uses some, lets say, not universally beneficial compilation flags that some of the HPC software can't run with, i.e. -ffast-math and some other optimizations because of the FPE and/or inconsistent resultsThank you, Intel!
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Most of us here are interested in the ClearLinux Desktop so HPC software not running is moot for us.
AMD fine wine in action. This time in accelerated timeframe.We 'member:
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lol WTF is "Custom BIOS*"?? Im guessing if you tested 20 different configurations for Intel you could come up with a similar graph. What a sh!t show!
I am surprised they don't compile their own stuff to order, linking everything statically, then there is really nothing from system that should be able to affect them I can think of. Unless some packages are compiled from source ad hoc using system defaults, but well those can be changed
It's a pity AMD itself is unable to communicate this information or provide details about what is going on. I mean if they want to keep their blog accessible to wider audience without burdening it with technical details they could link to another blog post or a white paper about the issue. Otherwise it makes them only look worse...
Say it in English pls.
And are we onto something already? or is it just another nothing burger?
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For those without a twitter account, David continues;
There was the notion that this launch is a dumpster fire. Is it though? Maybe so, but at least this dumpster seems stocked with astonishing amounts of fuel.
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So in addition to getting Copilot+'d they got MS Kernel'd
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