Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[511]

Now imagine the number of OEMs one could lure with a not cheap, big version of a graphics IP designed for cheap, minified iGPUs

WCL-U is something that I would have thought but it's not a big Xe Cores but the IP is nice

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Another PC handheld with STX Halo:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1971514042595610993

This time with a proper sized 8" screen.

 

[igor_kavinski]

OneXfly??? What a cringe name. Why not just OneX Apex?

 

[ToTTenTranz]

OneXfly??? What a cringe name. Why not just OneX Apex?

IDK, Apex Flies are pretty badass flies.

 

[Bigos]

I always wanted to play my favorite games with high frame rate for 15 minutes before the battery runs out.

(It is probably restricted to less than 120W when not plugged-in, I know. Still, this is what I call "over kill".)

 

[igor_kavinski]

Come on, guys. Let's not be pessimistic.

Energizer 30,000mAh battery bank exists.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

I always wanted to play my favorite games with high frame rate for 15 minutes before the battery runs out.

(It is probably restricted to less than 120W when not plugged-in, I know. Still, this is what I call "over kill".)

It has a 85W.h battery and the STX Halo SoC shows pretty great performance at 20-25W, better than STX Point Z2E at that wattage.
Set it to 20W and you get 3-3.5h of battery life which is more than what you get on from the Switch 2.


And despite the performance lead at 20W, STX Halo's biggest advantage is not its untethered performance, but rather the fact that you can start playing big boy games on the go, and then reach a TV and keep playing with great performance and graphics on the big screen.

 

[StefanR5R]

(It is probably restricted to less than 120W when not plugged-in, I know. Still, this is what I call "over kill".)

Probably? :-)

The video says: "ONE Dock Silent Liquid Cooling System/ 120W Power Unleashed".

It *must* be plugged in not only to get 120 W electric power into this gadget, it also *must* be plugged in to get 120 W thermal power out of it. Conduct a little thought experiment: Take a 120 W halogen light bulb. Power it from a battery. And hold it in your hands while it is lit. Which happens first? Battery running out, or hands burnt?

 

[fastandfurious6]

And despite the performance lead at 20W, STX Halo's biggest advantage is not its untethered performance, but rather the fact that you can start playing big boy games on the go, and then reach a TV and keep playing with great performance and graphics on the big screen.

100% future of client computing

 

[poke01]

100% future of client computing

*of mobile computing

 

[Doug S]

100% future of client computing

Why would you want a "PC" with an 8" screen that you can use on the go and plug into a TV when already have that with a near 7" screen with your phone? Seems like a stretch that this will become the "future" of client computing when it seems its only use is to play games that are available on a PC but not a phone.

 

[adroc_thurston]

when it seems its only use is to play games that are available on a PC but not a phone.

Phones do not have any games available to begin with.
That's kinda the problem.

 

[fastandfurious6]

Why would you amd halo handheld instead of android/iphone except pc games

x86

 

[regen1]

AMD’s EPYC 9355P: Inside a 32 Core Zen 5 Server Chip

High core count chips are headline grabbers.

chipsandcheese.com

 

[blackangus]

Phones do not have any games available to begin with.
That's kinda the problem.

I had to login for this...

Talk about the supreme troll =)

 

[igor_kavinski]

Talk about the supreme troll =)

Yeah mobile games exist but the demographic is different. They are like two different minds from a mental perspective. From what I've seen, PC/console gamers can't stand playing games on a small screen and the mobile gamers somehow aren't interested in seeing action unfolding on a larger screen. They are just two very different kinds of animals.

 

[fastandfurious6]

Millions of 2d indie games running 120fps on potato cpu, genshin impact, fortnite, what else? Those types of games are very limited and almost always are PG13

 

[igor_kavinski]

Millions of 2d indie games running 120fps on potato cpu, genshin impact, fortnite, what else? Those types of games are very limited and almost always are PG13

Mobiles are not gonna go anywhere with respect to gaming other than the existing userbase unless

1) they can be docked and output to a bigger screen

2) they can run Steam games

 

[fastandfurious6]

Yes. Basically bigger chips and x86

In some years phones will be able to do these but "mobile phone gaming" does not exist yet

 

[LightningZ71]

Mobiles are not gonna go anywhere with respect to gaming other than the existing userbase unless

1) they can be docked and output to a bigger screen

2) they can run Steam games

on 2... High end phones (and even a few mid-high ones) effectively have enough horsepower to run most anything that the SteamDeck can. Granted, ARM vs. x86 translation overhead would be an issue...

 

[igor_kavinski]

Granted, ARM vs. x86 translation overhead would be an issue...

It's almost a solved issue thanks to ExaGear. Now someone just needs to pay off Huawei and make it an opensource project for mankind.

 

[Tup3x]

It's almost a solved issue thanks to ExaGear. Now someone just needs to pay off Huawei and make it an opensource project for mankind.

In my dreams Valve brings full Steam to Android and starts working on x86 to ARM translation.

 

[Joe NYC]

New Turin instance on AWS cloud beats Genoa by 59%

AMD EPYC 9005 Brings Incredible Performance To The Cloud With Amazon M8a Benchmarks Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

 

[branch_suggestion]

New Turin instance on AWS cloud beats Genoa by 59%

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AMD EPYC 9005 Brings Incredible Performance To The Cloud With Amazon M8a Benchmarks Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

Now just imagine if you will what kinda gains Venice will have for a 32 vCPU instance.
128MB of unified L3, a colossal membw bump and a lot moar interconnect everythings.
Now it probably won't be another 59% bump but it doesn't have to be to crush the market.

 

[Markfw]

New Turin instance on AWS cloud beats Genoa by 59%

View attachment 132120

AMD EPYC 9005 Brings Incredible Performance To The Cloud With Amazon M8a Benchmarks Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

And this is why I have a 64 core 9555 and 2 9755 128 core Turins.