I took that 2026 as what I said earlier or how Lisa said AM4 would be supported for years to come. It's the language that matters. It's vague enough not to be drawn on later as complaint.
You made a good choice with the motherboard & I decided to get one too! Are you going with B650 or X670 boards?
I opted for the X670 board. Finally seeing all the motherboard options laid out in front of me I did my best to do some on-site comparisons and some instant internet research. Seemed like a good blend of features and price point so I pulled the trigger. Never had an ASRock board before so hoping it's not to bad.
Are you on the latest bios? I tried it & also the last non beta bios.... never in my life have I had to clear the CMOS manually with a jumper numerous times within the last week of any enthusiasts board I've owned in over 20 yrs & I was only trying to get the same RAM timings happening with my Samsung B die kit like I could do quite easily on the Gigabyte B650 board. MSI seem to not have an effective bios recovery option without having to clear the CMOS manually every time. Pathetic in this day & age with new stuff. Also, what's with this nitro training options? they seem preconfigured & don't set themselves back to auto when rebooting & telling it to save changes - never saw that on the Gigabyte board.
That's the one I ordered too. From what I can gather from a plethora of enthusiasts sites. Gigabyte & Asrock have done the best with agesa updates & implementing them in the bios.
I opted for the ASRock X670E PRO RS, and been very happy with it, upgraded from a ASRock X99 and 5820k from 2014, so I don't think you'll regret your decision.
I also upgraded from a GTX 1070 to a RX 6800XT, and while the the video vCard upgrade was the most significant, upgrading the CPU gave me ~30% better fps, and there is definitely less stutter in CPUS heavy scenarios. But I don't feel like I need to upgrade my CPU more often than every 7-8 year.
I was looking at that board as well but for some reason was drawn to the Steel. I am moving up from a 4770 and GTX 970 so I am sure I'll see some pretty solid gains no matter what!I opted for the ASRock X670E PRO RS, and been very happy with it, upgraded from a ASRock X99 and 5820k from 2014, so I don't think you'll regret your decision.
I updated the BIOS using flashback before installing the CPU, then installed Windows, and once everything was up and running I applied Buildzoids "safe" memory timings, and that's about it. I use memory context restore and haven't had any stability problems, but others will advise you to disable it and do memory training on every boot.
Is there any evidence that memory training is needed on every boot up?
www.crucial.com
There is a lengthy discussion in this thread about it. Some believe it to be necessary, personally I don't.Is there any evidence that memory training is needed on every boot up?
Here’s what Crucial has to say about it:
DDR5 systems may require training
A small number of DDR5 systems and motherboards require a period of "training" newly installed memory to work with the system and allow access to the UEFI, or otherwise to complete the system's power-on self-test (POST).
”A small number of DDR5 systems and motherboards require a period of "training" newly installed memory to work with the system and allow access to the UEFI, or otherwise to complete the system's power-on self-test (POST).
[…]
After this process is complete, future reboots will not require this wait [training], unless hardware is changed again in the future or other modifications are made in the system's BIOS or UEFI, in which case another delayed startup for this process may be seen.”
I'm still on v15. I wanted to wait to update the BIOS until after the SOC voltage issue had some time to be fixed and tested before I updated. Lately I haven't had much time to spend on the system so I've not updated yet. I do agree that while trying out new settings any time you have to clear CMOS sucks. And I have a vertical mount GPU!!! So I bought a switch to connect to the clear CMOS pins and ran it outside of my case for easy access. For my system I simply spent time getting the voltage and power settings where I wanted and just enabled XMP. Then Buildzoid's video came out so I tried his settings and tried to push things a little more. Finally settled on what I felt was a good balance of performance without pushing too far. I've not used the Nitro training you mention. In fact, I'm not even sure where that is in the BIOS. I don't recall running into that option or maybe they renamed in it later BIOS versions?
I followed that discussion but could not find any technical evidence for why memory training would be needed on every boot up. Just some vague "it gives me peace of mind" argument, which is not really any technical reason. Did I miss something?
First boot could take a few minutes. Just let it sit and do it's thing. If it doesn't boot in ~5 minutes you may need a BIOS update. My daughter's 7600X system had this issue with a Gigabyte board in December. I didn't have the same issues with my 7700 and MSI board in late January though. Mine posted first time.
True. I also never check FPS, so "trust my feelings" must I.
You can get 3 16 gig usb drives for like $10.
Thanks for the link. I ended up grabbing a 32GB one from Amazon which is going to be delivered same day. I know I paid more, but I'm impatient. I may get a couple of those anyway though since I am sure my kids will start needing them for school.
Ah. The 3070 feels pretty fast even on my Comet Lake laptop so I guess you won't feel any change unless some game's performance was seriously hurting before your upgrade (like stuttering or hitching).
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