Of course, the H and HS version almost exclusively (with only two notable recent exceptions surfacing) have dGPUs and almost all of the U models being iGPU only. Its still a big uplift, and, for the 4500 and up, it almost completely obviates the need to have anything lower than the MX350 in a laptop, and for the 4700u+, it even makes the MX350 largely irrelevant with a proper memory setup.
On desktop, I can certainly understand Shivas' point of view: With Renoir's 4 core product, he's going to have to pay a bit more for statistically lower gpu performance as compared to the most functionally equivalent product of the previous generation. He doesn't care about the CPU performance as that's entirely irrelevant to him. For whatever reason, his entire world revolves around compute heavy gaming titles that demonstrate a drop of more than a couple of frames per second in that specific situation. I personally believe that he's arguing a corner case, and, if it's really that big of a deal to him, and he doesn't have to live in a tiny ITX case, he'd actually do much better for himself to get a 3100 and a $50 used video card for the same investment and have a much better gaming experience.
Remember that im not arguing MY use case, yes, i did use Vega 8 APUs for a year for gaming when i was short of money and had to sell my RX480 and my R7 1700, and i personally belive the strong point in AMD apus is the IGP perf, that is what set them apart from Intel offerings.
You need to understand that we sell an avg of 200 PCs per week and around 150 of them are AMD APUs in a 25/40/85 split (3000G/3200G/3400G), almost all people getting the 3400G are for use in gaming because they cant affort anything else. Getting a GTX1650 or a RX570 involves a considerable jump in price.
Most of these 3400G arent even using 3200mhz ram as they are more expensive and difficult to get.
So AMD now launchs something thats slower in IGP for most games and takes advantage of fast speed ram no one will ever use outside a super niche case. Worst, considering the 3200G has no replacement they may use the Athlon 3150G at that spot.
One may say "keep using the 3400G" the reality is... the 3400G stock, is very very low. I have a hard time beliving AMD will keep making Picassos that makes the 4300G look bad.
Picasso, when launched as a simple refresh, it had better perf all around for the same price, and Ryzen 1000>2000>3000 has been like this as well, except for when they added the Ryzen 9 series.
I see no reason why Renoir cant be like all previous launches, this is not a new series like Ryzen 9, even if you factor in a price increase, there is no reason why the 4300G cant be $110 and the 4600G $160. Remember that these APU will share the lineup with the new Zen 3 CPUs!!!! Not Matisse.
And about Renoir being "mobile first", every AMD APU that ever existed was "mobile first".