That 4700G cannot come out soon enough.
Depending on reviews and price point I might pick one of these up to play around with. I've tested my b-die up to 4333MHz with my 3700x, but the 1:2 divider neuters the performance.
That 4700G cannot come out soon enough.
That voltage is in no ways safe.
I played around with a 2400G for quite awhile and most games I played where held back by the Ram (3200 C14 is the best the chip would run). Especially with the Vega 11 clocked to 1550mhz. Granted there were some games that kept scaling with clock increases but it was at a performance ledge IMO. I think 8cu @ 2100 Vega+ is going to be at that same "ledge" and even with Fast DDR3600/3800 ram a 12cu part would held back. They should offer a lower core count chip with the full 8cu though.With those prices they are DOA for DIY users.
Zero upgrade path worth it from 3200G and 3400G
AMD should start to thinking of making more than a single die for its products.
Desktop APU DIY users are aiming for the iGPU and not for the CPU performance, AMD should have also created a 4C 8T + 12CU APU for both the Desktop and Laptop market.
But nooooo, more cores are always better than what people really need.
@AtenRa
Those are the PRO APUs. The non-PRO ones aren't even on that price list. Like the 4700G. When you consider where the 3700x price is, the prices aren't THAT bad.
The competition
65W TDP
AMD R3 Pro 4350G , 4C8T, 3.8GHz base and 4.1GHz Boost, VEGA 6 iGPU , 3200 memory , 65W TDP , price $139
Intel Core i3 10100 , 4C8T, 3.6GHz base and 4.3GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 65W TDP , price $119
Intel Core i3 10300 , 4C8T, 3.7GHz base and 4.4GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 65W TDP , price $143
AMD R5 Pro 4650G , 6C12T, 3.7GHz base and 4.3GHz Boost, VEGA7 iGPU , 3200 memory , 65W TDP , price $219
Intel Core i5 10400 , 6C12T, 2.9GHz base and 4.3GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 65W TDP , price $183
Intel Core i5 10500 , 6C12T, 3.1GHz base and 4.5GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 65W TDP , price $199
Intel Core i5 10600 , 6C12T, 3.3GHz base and 4.8GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 65W TDP , price $219
AMD R5 Pro 4750G , 8C16T, 3.6GHz base and 4.45GHz Boost, VEGA 8 iGPU , 3200 memory , 65W TDP , price $289
Intel Core i7 10700 , 8C16T, 2.9GHz base and 4.8GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2933 memory , 65W TDP , price $329
35W TDP
AMD R3 Pro 4350GE , 4C8T, 3.5GHz base and 4.1GHz Boost, VEGA 6 iGPU , 3200 memory , 35W TDP , price ?
Intel Core i3 10100T , 4C8T, 3.0GHz base and 3.8GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 35W TDP , price $122
Intel Core i3 10300T , 4C8T, 3.0GHz base and 3.9GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 35W TDP , price $143
AMD R5 Pro 4650GE , 6C12T, 3.3GHz base and 4.25GHz Boost, VEGA7 iGPU , 3200 memory , 35W TDP , price ?
Intel Core i5 10400T , 6C12T, 2.0GHz base and 3.6GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 35W TDP , price $182
Intel Core i5 10500T , 6C12T, 2.3GHz base and 3.8GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2666 memory , 35W TDP , price $192
AMD R5 Pro 4750GE , 8C16T, 3.1GHz base and 4.35GHz Boost, VEGA 8 iGPU , 3200 memory , 35W TDP , price ?
Intel Core i7 10700 , 8C16T, 2.0GHz base and 4.5GHz Boost, HD630 iGPU , 2933 memory , 35W TDP , price $329
Competition in what, Intel competition can be only in CPU performanse.
What about casual gaming, or APU for any HTPC PC usage classic Desktop, or tiny Mini PC.Intel HD 630 iGPU is joke, compared to "Renoir APU only 6 VEGA CU-s".Even 50$ Athlon 3000G+Vega 3 beats Intel HD 630 iGPU in gaming.
Price performance ratio, any Renoir APU will be much beeter buy as 35W APU for similar tiny PC.
As far i see, there is no non Pro version of Renoir APU.
will the 4C 8T SKU will come from a single CCX like the 3300X or 2x2 like the 3100X ?? anyone knows ??
Hmm...? Being a monolithic design has nothing to do with CCX count. Renoir has two four core CCXes.Renoir APU is monolithic design, or 4/8 version can have only single CCX.