Your entire party is a dumpster fire

[SP33Demon]

All in all I think Trump as the businessman and opportunist can be viewed as a role model (flipping 1mil into a 500mil/yr company with 50% profit margin) but Trump from a moral standpoint, nope (cheating on his wife with a pron star was a very very poor decision). In our country, money trumps all so if you are good at making money then nothing else matters, especially to the poor and middle class who are struggling to make ends meet. Potentially getting a job beats anything the status quo could offer (e.g. Hillary) at the time, so this is how Trump was born into existence - morals be damned. Dems can only blame themselves for thinking the economic status quo was rosy in swing states when it wasn't. If they want to put up a fight in 2020 then they better start getting outreach into swing states and come up with a plan to bring jobs to them.

 

[Younigue]

All in all I think Trump as the businessman and opportunist can be viewed as a role model (flipping 1mil into a 500mil/yr company with 50% profit margin) but Trump from a moral standpoint, nope (cheating on his wife with a pron star was a very very poor decision). In our country, money trumps all so if you are good at making money then nothing else matters, especially to the poor and middle class who are struggling to make ends meet. Potentially getting a job beats anything the status quo could offer (e.g. Hillary) at the time, so this is how Trump was born into existence - morals be damned. Dems can only blame themselves for thinking the economic status quo was rosy in swing states when it wasn't. If they want to put up a fight in 2020 then they better start getting outreach into swing states and come up with a plan to bring jobs to them.

He's a Plague in everything he does or says. Get a grip man

 

[Jhhnn]

Well, I am an old guy, and grew up in a time when hateful speech wasn't tossed around quite as freely as it is today.

Me, too. I think, however, it's important to understand who's been claiming the right to vilify others as "Free Speech" & that's not Libs. It's Trump. It's the Alt-right. It's the same bigoted hatred we've always dealt with from arch conservative nativists. And it's been the Russians chiming right in & doing what they can to weaken the social fabric of America.

All that has worked way too well to suit me. It seems obvious that a lot of conservatives are wearing very unhealthy headsets if they Think Trump should be a role model for children. That's out there past the edge of sanity. They're in desperate need of a reality check.

 

[SP33Demon]

He's a Plague in everything he does or says. Get a grip man

No, actually he's a cutthroat businessman who wants Americans to have jobs. We could use more of that in this country that just sits on its collective ass and is lulled to sleep by video games and MSM instead of starting a business. Hopefully the new tax reform plan will light a fire under some asses. I'm going to write a check back to the IRS for the money I saved on Trump's tax plan - said nobody, ever.

Also, have you seen his reception in Davos? MSM said he'd be shunned and they treated him like a rock star. Whoops.

 

[SP33Demon]

Me, too. I think, however, it's important to understand who's been claiming the right to vilify others as "Free Speech" & that's not Libs. It's Trump. It's the Alt-right. It's the same bigoted hatred we've always dealt with from arch conservative nativists. And it's been the Russians chiming right in & doing what they can to weaken the social fabric of America.

All that has worked way too well to suit me. It seems obvious that a lot of conservatives are wearing very unhealthy headsets if they Think Trump should be a role model for children. That's out there past the edge of sanity. They're in desperate need of a reality check.

Ever think of moving to Germany where your sensitive feelings will be protected by NetzDG? Oh wait, except people who actually have half a brain (like Yale) don't take too kindly to countries being censored.
https://law.yale.edu/mfia/case-disclosed/germanys-netzdg-and-threat-online-free-speech

Being able to discuss and fight back verbally via free speech with things that you don't like is a foundation of our country. E.g. I despise those Westboro assholes but I'm not calling for them to be censored.

Last, zomg russians! They are to blame for all of this! Do you know how ridiculous you guys sound? Russians weakening our social fabric? Get real and stop believing everything you read my lemming friend.

 

[Jhhnn]

All in all I think Trump as the businessman and opportunist can be viewed as a role model (flipping 1mil into a 500mil/yr company with 50% profit margin) but Trump from a moral standpoint, nope (cheating on his wife with a pron star was a very very poor decision). In our country, money trumps all so if you are good at making money then nothing else matters, especially to the poor and middle class who are struggling to make ends meet. Potentially getting a job beats anything the status quo could offer (e.g. Hillary) at the time, so this is how Trump was born into existence - morals be damned. Dems can only blame themselves for thinking the economic status quo was rosy in swing states when it wasn't. If they want to put up a fight in 2020 then they better start getting outreach into swing states and come up with a plan to bring jobs to them.

Mighty fine set of false attributions leading inevitably to Hillary as the excuse for Trump. With gratuitous duh-version into what Dems should be doing while the GOP is in control, of course.

I mean, Y'all won, right? Don't blame Dems for what you can't accomplish with another round of that good ol' trickle down economic theory. And don't blame Dems for your fellow travelers being quite so delusional as to see Trump as a role model for children while claiming to have "values".

 

[Younigue]

Me, too. I think, however, it's important to understand who's been claiming the right to vilify others as "Free Speech" & that's not Libs. It's Trump. It's the Alt-right. It's the same bigoted hatred we've always dealt with from arch conservative nativists. And it's been the Russians chiming right in & doing what they can to weaken the social fabric of America.

All that has worked way too well to suit me. It seems obvious that a lot of conservatives are wearing very unhealthy headsets if they Think Trump should be a role model for children. That's out there past the edge of sanity. They're in desperate need of a reality check.

Trump is no kind of Role Model for any person yet his followers admire him. It turns my stomach.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

You fuckers have been demonizing liberals for decades. Save your moral outrage for someone who cares. Moonbeam tried to tell you that you create what you fear, and you all laughed at him for it.

I'll answer yours directly instead of his (realibrad) or that of glenn1.

I had to encapsulate my feelings, and I had to do so looking to that scenario with the possibility it was the only solution. Pundits for the OC Register papers suggested it first, and it falls along a fault-line between urbanized metro-plex regions and the cornpone flyover SHITHOLE states (got that dig in there!) On a trivial question someone posed, the number favors the urban. I imagine my own killing spree in that scenario with no Law and no Constitution, as would prevail in a civil war. War returns us to the bitter survival terms of the Jungle.

So here's my point. Early-on in this Farce of the Trump Candidacy, a wide range of responsible practitioners of Objective Journalism, specialists in the field of Presidential History, the Constitution, American History and so forth, all noted that Trump's language, his disdain for the Truth, contempt for Facts and logical inference, and his outright murder of the Truth was a dangerous practice with dangerous implications. I would probably be accurate to say that a significant cohort of Trumpie-Loyalists completely overlook this observation or take it seriously.

When you slap a good portion of the electorate in the face -- 40 to 50+ percent is enough -- with the election of someone so disgusting as Trump, there is no basis for compromise. And since there is no basis for compromise, that means people may more and more incline toward a violent resolution of conflict.

So it is not surprising to observe as well that a significant cohort of Trumpie Filth are also gun-nuts and 2nd-Amendment obsessives. But it is surprising that they are so blind to the implications of what they're doing, and the actuality of what they're doing.

So -- sure -- occupy another Wild-life refuge -- or just pick Harpers Ferry for its symbolic historical value.

This is beyond politics. It's beyond ideology or belief. Trump is the most disgusting person to appear on TV since the 1936 Berlin games. Anyone who thinks he's a "role model for children" doesn't just need his head examined: he needs it to be cleaved.

 

[Younigue]

No, actually he's a cutthroat businessman who wants Americans to have jobs. We could use more of that in this country that just sits on its collective ass and is lulled to sleep by video games and MSM instead of starting a business. Hopefully the new tax reform plan will light a fire under some asses. I'm going to write a check back to the IRS for the money I saved on Trump's tax plan - said nobody, ever.

Also, have you seen his reception in Davos? MSM said he'd be shunned and they treated him like a rock star. Whoops.

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. I have you on ignore for a reason. I just checked in to see if you had sorted anything out but that answer is a resounding No. Cutthroat business man? WTF?! What you mean to say it's greedy, corrupt mother/pornstar fu*king evil son of a bitch with no moral compass or integrity of any kind willing to "business man" the country right in to the hands of Putin whilst raping the land, the air, the water, the people, inciting violence and division, promoting segregation and a souped-up warped sense of superiority. Wake the fu*k up, you're in serious danger of thanking your rapist with a smile on your face and replacing your soul with shit just so you ARE dirty rather than FEEL dirty. To admire his "accomplishments" is to ignore his failures and he IS a failure in every way a human can be. His money means nothing good and if you think so then you believe America should become a corrupt state. Shame on you!

Ugh Gawd! I am so sickened by what your definition of success is!

 

[Younigue]

Ever think of moving to Germany where your sensitive feelings will be protected by NetzDG? Oh wait, except people who actually have half a brain (like Yale) don't take too kindly to countries being censored.
https://law.yale.edu/mfia/case-disclosed/germanys-netzdg-and-threat-online-free-speech

Being able to discuss and fight back verbally via free speech with things that you don't like is a foundation of our country. E.g. I despise those Westboro assholes but I'm not calling for them to be censored.

Last, zomg russians! They are to blame for all of this! Do you know how ridiculous you guys sound? Russians weakening our social fabric? Get real and stop believing everything you read my lemming friend.

Shut your stupid mouth. Your mind is a hole.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ever think of moving to Germany where your sensitive feelings will be protected by NetzDG? Oh wait, except people who actually have half a brain (like Yale) don't take too kindly to countries being censored.
https://law.yale.edu/mfia/case-disclosed/germanys-netzdg-and-threat-online-free-speech

Being able to discuss and fight back verbally via free speech with things that you don't like is a foundation of our country. E.g. I despise those Westboro assholes but I'm not calling for them to be censored.

Last, zomg russians! They are to blame for all of this! Do you know how ridiculous you guys sound? Russians weakening our social fabric? Get real and stop believing everything you read my lemming friend.

Yeh, I'm the authoritarian for merely pointing out the divisive incivility, contempt and lack of common decency exhibited by the right wing noise machine for the last couple of decades. It's all culminated in the mass insanity that made Trump president, a giant Fuck You! to the rest of America & the world.

The fact that the Russians threw in with Trump is indisputable as is their expertise. They amplified Trump's message of hate & discontent. It's not like they did it for the MAGA, either. When they saw us headed for a cliff they helped us over the edge, or tried to, anyway.

 

[cytg111]

...Also, have you seen his reception in Davos? MSM said he'd be shunned and they treated him like a rock star. Whoops.

You play poker? You know the bit about "If you cant spot the sucker the sucker is you"? If Trump is getting treated as a rock star by the IC your absolutely first gut instinct reaction should be "Is our pres getting played?" .. My guess is that these people have taken a lesson from Putin and is handling him like a case officer.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. I have you on ignore for a reason. I just checked in to see if you had sorted anything out but that answer is a resounding No. Cutthroat business man? WTF?! What you mean to say it's greedy, corrupt mother/pornstar fu*king evil son of a bitch with no moral compass or integrity of any kind willing to "business man" the country right in to the hands of Putin whilst raping the land, the air, the water, the people, inciting violence and division, promoting segregation and a souped-up warped sense of superiority. Wake the fu*k up, you're in serious danger of thanking your rapist with a smile on your face and replacing your soul with shit just so you ARE dirty rather than FEEL dirty. To admire his "accomplishments" is to ignore his failures and he IS a failure in every way a human can be. His money means nothing good and if you think so then you believe America should become a corrupt state. Shame on you!

Ugh Gawd! I am so sickened by what your definition of success is!

I call it the "Fallacy of Large Numbers" in a "Special Theory" about the poorly-read, intellectually lazy, paranoid or simply mean-spirited 25%. I once administered a $400 million grants program, insofar as calculating and dispensing the money according to a statutory formula probably created by some consulting firm like Booz-Allen Hamilton. I might have trained a 19-year-old college student to do it. So what? "Oh! it's Four Hundred Million Dollars!" It was precise numbers. That's what it was.

Trump inherited a $100 million business, and his parlay to his current "net worth" was probably modest. That's the "business" he knows. That's the extent of his "business experience" in real-estate and construction, bolstered by self-promotion in importing cheap power-ties or cotton-shirts made at slave wages in the countries he calls "shitholes."

Warren Buffet is a businessman. Warren Buffet would study card-counting for months before heading to the casino to play BlackJack, and Warren Buffet might be thrown out of the Casino if it were discovered he was using some device or diddling with his fingers to count cards from an 8-deck shoe. Donald Trump? He's "all in!" All his perception of his "instinct." And that's how he lost several hundred million dollars in his "bidnis-venture" a couple decades ago, that makes him a genius for filing taxes with carry-over losses. Except that President Asshole never filed his taxes himself, and he probably never even filed an SF-1040 himself. Otherwise, he wouldn't have called himself a "genius" for it.

They elected a gambler to run an institution or a set of institutions designed to mitigate risk as a matter of national unity, national cohesion, national security -- and the preservation of civilization with an interest toward pursuing the Truth.

Don't talk to me about "respect." The electorate behind president disgusting Filth don't deserve it. You can make the claim to Ignorance, and since Einstein himself would be unashamed to say it, you can save your self-esteem. In that, you might say "I'm so Stupid!" Because Ignorant people in their admission also admit to that. If they don't then they are merely Stupid. And if they can't take refuge in being galactically Stupid, then they are simply mean, sociopathic race traitors -- Traitors to the Human Race.

 

[SP33Demon]

Shut your stupid mouth. Your mind is a hole.

Only because the Russians have mind controlled me. Can you help me take my tinfoil hat off? lol

 

[SP33Demon]

Yeh, I'm the authoritarian for merely pointing out the divisive incivility, contempt and lack of common decency exhibited by the right wing noise machine for the last couple of decades. It's all culminated in the mass insanity that made Trump president, a giant Fuck You! to the rest of America & the world.

The fact that the Russians threw in with Trump is indisputable as is their expertise. They amplified Trump's message of hate & discontent. It's not like they did it for the MAGA, either. When they saw us headed for a cliff they helped us over the edge, or tried to, anyway.

Well I merely suggested that if you can't take the heat, get out of the (US) kitchen and go a more lukewarm (Germany) kitchen. Let's face it, we evolved as a species by shit tests and if you can't handle them, your genes usually aren't passed on. Also, a giant F You to the world? Lol, have you seen what CNN's been saying about Trump the "rock star at Davos"? Seems like we're doing just fine and actually garnering global respect because of the new tax cut which will bring foreign investments back here.
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-at-davos-cnbc-triumph.2535381/#post-39280012

Off what cliff? The Dow is at an all time high and my stock portfolio has gained 40% on the year. If you didn't invest, not my problem. If this prosperous boom has to do with Russians then we should be inviting Putin here more often.

 

[Younigue]

Yeh, I'm the authoritarian for merely pointing out the divisive incivility, contempt and lack of common decency exhibited by the right wing noise machine for the last couple of decades. It's all culminated in the mass insanity that made Trump president, a giant Fuck You! to the rest of America & the world.

The fact that the Russians threw in with Trump is indisputable as is their expertise. They amplified Trump's message of hate & discontent. It's not like they did it for the MAGA, either. When they saw us headed for a cliff they helped us over the edge, or tried to, anyway.

They are succeeding as long as Trump is in office.

 

[SP33Demon]

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. I have you on ignore for a reason. I just checked in to see if you had sorted anything out but that answer is a resounding No. Cutthroat business man? WTF?! What you mean to say it's greedy, corrupt mother/pornstar fu*king evil son of a bitch with no moral compass or integrity of any kind willing to "business man" the country right in to the hands of Putin whilst raping the land, the air, the water, the people, inciting violence and division, promoting segregation and a souped-up warped sense of superiority. Wake the fu*k up, you're in serious danger of thanking your rapist with a smile on your face and replacing your soul with shit just so you ARE dirty rather than FEEL dirty. To admire his "accomplishments" is to ignore his failures and he IS a failure in every way a human can be. His money means nothing good and if you think so then you believe America should become a corrupt state. Shame on you!

Ugh Gawd! I am so sickened by what your definition of success is!

Holy shit, go smoke a joint or see a therapist. You clearly have issues. Yes, Donald is a cutthroat business man and that's why all of his amoral BS was overlooked. Last I checked, you're getting more money on your taxes. Want to donate that to my paypal? I'll put it to my kid's college and you won't have to have such "corrupt MFing evil" Trump blood money in your bank account. Yes, I'm such a good pal that I would do that for you bud.

Clinton banged a fat intern while married, W got a DUI and did coke, Obama smoked pot and filled a good chunk of his cabinet with Citibank employees (see wikileaks if you don't believe me) in 2008, Hillary took Wall st's $650k for speeches while claiming to be against wall st, and Donald banged a pron star while married in 2006. So what - is your soul now "shit" because you voted for a few of those clowns? Get over it. Money talks, BS walks and everyone has done stupid shit in their lives including pastors, rabbis, and reverends.

 

[Jhhnn]

The thing is we're not just talking sex, we're talking the kind of sex way outside the realm of acceptable as per a huge swath of his supporters, i.e. evangelicals and other socially authoritarian flavors of American protestantism. I'm not addressing my comments to Dump supporters who don't care for organized religion and the values promoted by it, I'm specifically addressing people like Falwell who do.

I'm less concerned with giving them psych evals than I am with pointing out why hypocrisy undermines credibility. It tends to cut down on the preaching, probably the reason it's so popular. Must be working because 'regaining public trust' is now a topic for that crowd if you listen to their various radio stations (I do a lot of driving). Some of them get it.

Falwell is as much a charlatan as Trump. He believes none of it. Evangelicals have one issue- abortion. It overwhelms their minds to the point that they knowingly made a deal with the Devil thinking he'd help them win it.

 

[Greenman]

Me, too. I think, however, it's important to understand who's been claiming the right to vilify others as "Free Speech" & that's not Libs. It's Trump. It's the Alt-right. It's the same bigoted hatred we've always dealt with from arch conservative nativists. And it's been the Russians chiming right in & doing what they can to weaken the social fabric of America.

All that has worked way too well to suit me. It seems obvious that a lot of conservatives are wearing very unhealthy headsets if they Think Trump should be a role model for children. That's out there past the edge of sanity. They're in desperate need of a reality check.

I get you, and agree. My issue is with folks that think it's ok to silence those people. That bothers me as much as what the bigots are saying. It will end up going to far, everything political ends up going to far. Somewhere between shouting racial slurs from the roof tops and going to jail for telling an ethnic joke is where we need to be. Right now we're swinging in the thought police direction, it concerns me.

 

[Younigue]

I call it the "Fallacy of Large Numbers" in a "Special Theory" about the poorly-read, intellectually lazy, paranoid or simply mean-spirited 25%. I once administered a $400 million grants program, insofar as calculating and dispensing the money according to a statutory formula probably created by some consulting firm like Booz-Allen Hamilton. I might have trained a 19-year-old college student to do it. So what? "Oh! it's Four Hundred Million Dollars!" It was precise numbers. That's what it was.

Trump inherited a $100 million business, and his parlay to his current "net worth" was probably modest. That's the "business" he knows. That's the extent of his "business experience" in real-estate and construction, bolstered by self-promotion in importing cheap power-ties or cotton-shirts made at slave wages in the countries he calls "shitholes."

Warren Buffet is a businessman. Warren Buffet would study card-counting for months before heading to the casino to play BlackJack, and Warren Buffet might be thrown out of the Casino if it were discovered he was using some device or diddling with his fingers to count cards from an 8-deck shoe. Donald Trump? He's "all in!" All his perception of his "instinct." And that's how he lost several hundred million dollars in his "bidnis-venture" a couple decades ago, that makes him a genius for filing taxes with carry-over losses. Except that President Asshole never filed his taxes himself, and he probably never even filed an SF-1040 himself. Otherwise, he wouldn't have called himself a "genius" for it.

They elected a gambler to run an institution or a set of institutions designed to mitigate risk as a matter of national unity, national cohesion, national security -- and the preservation of civilization with an interest toward pursuing the Truth.

Don't talk to me about "respect." The electorate behind president disgusting Filth don't deserve it. You can make the claim to Ignorance, and since Einstein himself would be unashamed to say it, you can save your self-esteem. In that, you might say "I'm so Stupid!" Because Ignorant people in their admission also admit to that. If they don't then they are merely Stupid. And if they can't take refuge in being galactically Stupid, then they are simply mean, sociopathic race traitors -- Traitors to the Human Race.

Preach! Not a single person in his Administration or his followers deserves any kind of respect. Trump least of all. They are selling stupidity as a virtue and corrupt actions and behavior as political gold. It's heinous!

 

[Younigue]

Only because the Russians have mind controlled me. Can you help me take my tinfoil hat off? lol

No, you deserve your fate. You've an ugly soul. Russians may have helped it along but you own it buster.

 

[Younigue]

Holy shit, go smoke a joint or see a therapist. You clearly have issues. Yes, Donald is a cutthroat business man and that's why all of his amoral BS was overlooked. Last I checked, you're getting more money on your taxes. Want to donate that to my paypal? I'll put it to my kid's college and you won't have to have such "corrupt MFing evil" Trump blood money in your bank account. Yes, I'm such a good pal that I would do that for you bud.

Clinton banged a fat intern while married, W got a DUI and did coke, Obama smoked pot and filled a good chunk of his cabinet with Citibank employees (see wikileaks if you don't believe me) in 2008, Hillary took Wall st's $650k for speeches while claiming to be against wall st, and Donald banged a pron star while married in 2006. So what - is your soul now "shit" because you voted for a few of those clowns? Get over it. Money talks, BS walks and everyone has done stupid shit in their lives including pastors, rabbis, and reverends.

What a heinous piece of shit you are.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

What a heinous piece of shit you are.

As I said, about my "Fallacy of Large Numbers for the Ignorant" Theory, and one could call it "The Bid-nis-man Myth."

The only thing Trump has going for him is being born with a gold cell-phone in one hand and a silver-spoon up his ass. If you were raised in a certain type of business or industry and inherited the $100 million enterprise at age 24, you could impress the galactically Clueless.

The Demon-man has fallen for all the myths. He can't be "enlightened from ignorance," because he doesn't admit it. He's just stupid, like so many others who think they have a "Great Answer" to the problems of the Universe because . . . . they have an Opinion, and . . . they have to be Right. Among all the Arm-Chair Discontents who secretly resent having been led for eight years by a [N-----r]. Hah! And that's something they seldom admit, unless they're "marching for old statues."

 

[Jhhnn]

Well I merely suggested that if you can't take the heat, get out of the (US) kitchen and go a more lukewarm (Germany) kitchen. Let's face it, we evolved as a species by shit tests and if you can't handle them, your genes usually aren't passed on. Also, a giant F You to the world? Lol, have you seen what CNN's been saying about Trump the "rock star at Davos"? Seems like we're doing just fine and actually garnering global respect because of the new tax cut which will bring foreign investments back here.
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-at-davos-cnbc-triumph.2535381/#post-39280012

Off what cliff? The Dow is at an all time high and my stock portfolio has gained 40% on the year. If you didn't invest, not my problem. If this prosperous boom has to do with Russians then we should be inviting Putin here more often.

You merely tried to slime me as authoritarian which is one of the usual diversions from people marching with White Supremacists, Russian psyops & outright Nazis, all in adoration of Trump. If you're not like them, why are you with them?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Preach! Not a single person in his Administration or his followers deserves any kind of respect. Trump least of all. They are selling stupidity as a virtue and corrupt actions and behavior as political gold. It's heinous!

In my last paragraph, I hope you know I wasn't referring to "you" with the rhetorical "you," but to "them." They . . . who deserve . . . no respect. I'm no psychologist, but can you imagine? "We want respect, and we're going to elect the most disgusting [so-called] White Person to get it!"

But I'd have to prove the theory. "They," on the other hand, require proof of nothing. Just weave another story, and it's "real" to them.