Your entire party is a dumpster fire

[Jhhnn]

I get you, and agree. My issue is with folks that think it's ok to silence those people. That bothers me as much as what the bigots are saying. It will end up going to far, everything political ends up going to far. Somewhere between shouting racial slurs from the roof tops and going to jail for telling an ethnic joke is where we need to be. Right now we're swinging in the thought police direction, it concerns me.

We've been swinging in the direction where these cockroaches feel all too comfortable crawling out from under their rocks to direct the national discourse. Trump, of course, is the biggest cockroach of all.

 

[Younigue]

In my last paragraph, I hope you know I wasn't referring to "you" with the rhetorical "you," but to "them." They . . . who deserve . . . no respect. I'm no psychologist, but can you imagine? "We want respect, and we're going to elect the most disgusting [so-called] White Person to get it!"

But I'd have to prove the theory. "They," on the other hand, require proof of nothing. Just weave another story, and it's "real" to them.

I caught that but thanks for clarifying.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

That's why I secretly hope for a violent civil war.

There is no compromise with this disgusting GOP filth. They think they're "Americans," but they're hardly human beings. They're space-trash alien-invader filth.

How could Trump POSSIBLY be a good role model for children?! All the names you could call him -- like "disgusting pig" or "traitorous sociopathic scum" fall short of adequate description.

Name calling, the last bastion of those without a valid argument.

 

[Younigue]

Name calling, the last bastion of those without a valid argument.

LOL, you're above it? You're just *ugh* Yuck!

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Name calling, the last bastion of those without a valid argument.

You can't provide an argument as to why the Traitor-in-Chief should be a role model for children, and if you did, it would have holes in it like Swiss Cheese, and I and others would destroy you.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

You can't provide an argument as to why the Traitor-in-Chief should be a role model for children, and if you did, it would have holes in it like Swiss Cheese, and I and others would destroy you.

The only role models children should have is their parents, not politicians, businessmen, sports stars, entertainers or others.
There is NO politician that is a good role model.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

The only role models children should have is their parents, not politicians, businessmen, sports stars, entertainers or others.

That's a normative value-judgment on your part. But that's not positive reality. We expect certain things from those who aspire to leadership. And to show my proud disloyalty to your so-called President of MY country -- my oh-so patriotic disloyalty -- I must say that the man is no leader. He inspires no confidence, except the confidence of the blind-in-anger delusional base. Would I "follow him?" To the gates of Hell! To stop short, slam the door, padlock it and bury it under a ton of stone.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

That's a normative value-judgment on your part. But that's not positive reality. We expect certain things from those who aspire to leadership. And to show my proud disloyalty to your so-called President of MY country -- my oh-so patriotic disloyalty -- I must say that the man is no leader. He inspires no confidence, except the confidence of the blind-in-anger delusional base. Would I "follow him?" To the gates of Hell! To stop short, slam the door, padlock it and bury it under a ton of stone.

Politicians are NOT leaders, they are hired to place the votes of their constituency and follow their wishes and not try to lead them or force their personal ideas and ideologies upon those they represent. Politicians want you to think they are hired to lead you and if you believe that, you are a typical sheep, a good subject, but not a good citizen.
Military generals should be leaders, but are not necessarily good role models.

BTW, Trump is not my president, he is THE President of the United States, no one is forced to live in a country they dislike. We have legal means of emigration as well as immigration.

 

[Moonbeam]

The only role models children should have is their parents, not politicians, businessmen, sports stars, entertainers or others.
There is NO politician that is a good role model.

You filthy communist fuck.......Ronald Reagan is my hero.

 

[Moonbeam]

Politicians are NOT leaders, they are hired to place the votes of their constituency and follow their wishes and not try to lead them or force their personal ideas and ideologies upon those they represent. Politicians want you to think they are hired to lead you and if you believe that, you are a typical sheep, a good subject, but not a good citizen.
Military generals should be leaders, but are not necessarily good role models.

BTW, Trump is not my president, he is THE President of the United States, no one is forced to live in a country they dislike. We have legal means of emigration as well as immigration.

We have means to put out dumpster fires that don't involve leaving the country. We have the right to alter or abolish a government that becomes obstructive of public will. We don't need a sock puppet thirty percent controlled by the one percent dictating policy.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

We have means to put out dumpster fires that don't involve leaving the country. We have the right to alter or abolish a government that becomes obstructive of public will. We don't need a sock puppet thirty percent controlled by the one percent dictating policy.

Exactly! In fact it was Jefferson that said “I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”
We are seeing the effects of just such a rebellion now and those that liked the status quo are in turmoil over it.
It's refreshing.

 

[Puffnstuff]

No, actually he's a cutthroat businessman who wants Americans to have jobs.

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid man; he employs H1B workers, buys chinese steel and doesn't pay his contractors.

 

[Jhhnn]

The only role models children should have is their parents, not politicians, businessmen, sports stars, entertainers or others.
There is NO politician that is a good role model.

Perhaps, but the poll shows that 72% of GOP'ers surveyed see Trump as a role model for children. You've defended that delusional POV all along.

 

[Younigue]

The only role models children should have is their parents, not politicians, businessmen, sports stars, entertainers or others.
There is NO politician that is a good role model.

And when parents don't fill the bill? Leaders should be able to set an example. How do you not understand that? That is one of the biggest reasons a functioning society appoints leaders. What's wrong with you.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

And when parents don't fill the bill? Leaders should be able to set an example. How do you not understand that? That is one of the biggest reasons a functioning society appoints leaders. What's wrong with you.

Politicians are not put in office to lead us, we are the leaders of the country and tell them how to vote.

 

[Younigue]

Politicians are NOT leaders, they are hired to place the votes of their constituency and follow their wishes and not try to lead them or force their personal ideas and ideologies upon those they represent. Politicians want you to think they are hired to lead you and if you believe that, you are a typical sheep, a good subject, but not a good citizen.
Military generals should be leaders, but are not necessarily good role models.

BTW, Trump is not my president, he is THE President of the United States, no one is forced to live in a country they dislike. We have legal means of emigration as well as immigration.

No! He is a mistake! He is no kind of leader. He was likely aided in his rise to his current position. He is a corrupt, treasonous wannabe dictator with nothing good in store for America, Americans or the world. Yes there is such a thing as people being forced to stay in countries they don't want to live in. America isn't one of them but decent human beings shouldn't be made to suffer that corrupt fu*k's presidency because people like you and people like Putin and gerrymandering bullshit thought that the truly fu*king stupid and/or heinous deserved a voice in the white house. Your very essence is foul and your every thought is useless and without worth (at least on this forum).

 

[Younigue]

Politicians are not put in office to lead us, we are the leaders of the country and tell them how to vote.

BUT they aren't listening to the people. They are not voting in the ways the people want them to. And yes, they should hold up to the scrutiny of a leader.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

BUT they aren't listening to the people. They are not voting in the ways the people want them to. And yes, they should hold up to the scrutiny of a leader.

This is why we drain the swamp.
Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often and for the same reason.

 

[Moonbeam]

Exactly! In fact it was Jefferson that said “I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”
We are seeing the effects of just such a rebellion now and those that liked the status quo are in turmoil over it.
It's refreshing.

A return to King George Trump is not the revolution he had in mind. The refreshing demands the blood of tyrants, as I recall.

 

[Jhhnn]

Politicians are not put in office to lead us, we are the leaders of the country and tell them how to vote.

We delegate authority to our representatives because we believe they're capable of leadership.

 

[Puffnstuff]

This is why we drain the swamp.
Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often and for the same reason.

You guys replaced the tadpoles with full blown swamp monsters.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is why we drain the swamp.
Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often and for the same reason.

What an exquisitely mindless slogan. Trump & the GOP are the swamp.

 

[Younigue]

You guys replaced the tadpoles with full blown swamp monsters.

There was no way to tell they were merely tadpoles before the monsters made their move. In fact the tadpoles were monster enough to contend with.

 

[Puffnstuff]

There was no way to tell they were merely tadpoles before the monsters made their move. In fact the tadpoles were monster enough to contend with.

You're correct that they kept themselves well hidden until it was time to strike. Now they don't even bother to try keeping it covert.

Tadpoles:

Swamp Monsters:

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Perhaps, but the poll shows that 72% of GOP'ers surveyed see Trump as a role model for children. You've defended that delusional POV all along.

That's the news-item of the day that riled me the most, and a motivation today to post. I know it's in another post or thread: How could ANYONE believe that Trump is a role model?

I want my kid to bully people.

I want my kid to scam people by setting up something like a phony university.

I want my kid to tell lie after lie, to make fantasy look like fact.

I want my kid to cheat his contractors.

I want my kid to get into some raunchy hobble-da-gee and gobble-da-goo, just about the time his latest wife gives birth to a child.

And -- I want my kid to perpetrate high treason against his country, by consorting with a global adversary who in turn is trying to outdo the CIA as it was before the Church Committee hearings.

I want my kid to think first and only about his image and himself.

I want my kid to unnecessarily risk serious disaster on others to pursue some end.

And I want my kid to think he's . . . . like God.

And . . . I want my kid to cheat on his taxes whenever he can.

[Surely, there are more items to be added here. But it all says the same thing: Trump will be a role model whether you like it or not, and Trump will reduce your child's bar of character achievement to lower than crocodile piss in a sink-hole.]