Your entire party is a dumpster fire

[Muse]

Yep, cutting government spending and cutting taxes is abhorrent all right, you can send any extra money you will get from your lower taxes to me so that you don't look like a hypocrite.

Looks like I don't have to. I doubt my taxes will be lower and besides, I don't vote my pocket book, you do, though don't you? That's the Republican way. Me first, to hell with the rest of you. You couldn't give a shit if other people suffer. Hypocrisy is trump's long suit. If you go along with him, you are rubber stamping policy steeped in hypocrisy, it's as simple as that.

You call what the Republicans are doing as cutting government spending and cutting taxes? The tax cuts are for the wealthy and the deficit is expanding to pay for them and their lavish life styles. And Trump is golfing on YOUR dime, fella.

Well, I'm going to skip reading all your posts, you are obviously a hopeless case, at least presently unless some miracle happens and you come to your senses.

 

[Greenman]

So... There's nothing to the fact that many people chose not to watch because Trump is a disease? With this SOTU address specifically it wasn't just the politically uninvolved who didn't watch.

But you know, way to be super simple. You nailed it!

If they didn't watch the address, or read a transcript, they can't have a valid opinion about it. That's demonstrable. If the question is how they "feel" about the event, then it makes some sense, but is completely without value.

 

[Atreus21]

Perhaps . . .

I told my dentist and techie-friend of 15 years to go f*** himself. My car mechanic may have heard the gossip about it, and I only suspected during my last visit that he's quaking in his boots. My rule of thumb: Just mention the Traitor and so-called President in a favorable light, and I'll burn ya down any way I can. They both know that I had access to their business computers and may very well have copied their customer database, but I didn't.

Even so, I can't be sure if I wouldn't use the information to coordinate a boycott and destroy their business and livelihood.

You could tell me "don't turn on the news; you'll feel better." I can't stand the thought of being ignorant of developing news. It isn't the "news" that has poisoned my mind against GOP Trumpies. If I examine multiple sources, it is they who have poisoned the well . . . .

I say this in good faith. You shouldn't take politics so seriously. America will survive Trump, just as it has survived every other president.

 

[realibrad]

Perhaps . . .

I told my dentist and techie-friend of 15 years to go f*** himself. My car mechanic may have heard the gossip about it, and I only suspected during my last visit that he's quaking in his boots. My rule of thumb: Just mention the Traitor and so-called President in a favorable light, and I'll burn ya down any way I can. They both know that I had access to their business computers and may very well have copied their customer database, but I didn't.

Even so, I can't be sure if I wouldn't use the information to coordinate a boycott and destroy their business and livelihood.

You could tell me "don't turn on the news; you'll feel better." I can't stand the thought of being ignorant of developing news. It isn't the "news" that has poisoned my mind against GOP Trumpies. If I examine multiple sources, it is they who have poisoned the well . . . .

Do you at all question your anger and hatred? So far no damage is so bad that cannot easily be undone. If he does somehow screw up something bigger then I could see being more angry, but your level of anger seems to be disconnected to what has happened so far. If you are willing to blow up a 15 year friendship over this, then you must either not value friendships, or you think what has happened so far is somehow worse. Your anger just does not seem equal to the situation.

 

[jackstar7]

I say this in good faith. You shouldn't take politics so seriously. America will survive Trump, just as it has survived every other president.

Suggesting that Trump is like any other U.S. president of the modern era is a flawed premise.

 

[Atreus21]

Suggesting that Trump is like any other U.S. president of the modern era is a flawed premise.

The same was said of Bush. And Reagan. And Obama. This is neglect of history. Every president is Hitler until the next one comes who is also Hitler. The moment for true outrage is always the present.

Trump is different in that he's a boorish cad and that's about it.

 

[jackstar7]

The same was said of Bush. And Reagan. This is neglect of history. Every president is Hitler until the next one comes who is also Hitler.

Trump is different in that he's a boorish cad and that's about it.

We're comparing TO history. That's how we know Trump is unprecedented.

I know I wasn't calling W Hitler. Mostly because he wasn't getting high fives of David Duke on the regular, like Trump is. And even then I'm not calling Trump Hitler because Trump lacks the charisma, and intelligence. I mean we know that Hitler wrote his book. I'm doubtful that Trump is capable of reading a complete book at this point.

 

[woolfe9998]

The same was said of Bush. And Reagan. This is neglect of history. Every president is Hitler until the next one comes who is also Hitler.

Trump is different in that he's a boorish cad and that's about it.

Comparisons between Reagan or Bush and Hitler were rare in comparison to Trump. And it isn't because he's a "boorish cad." It's because he ran a campaign based on fear mongering and blaming various groups (i.e. Mexicans and Muslims) for all of our problems. Comparisons to Hitler aside, Trump has brought a unique combination of total incompetence and moral bankruptcy to the White House which this country has never seen, certainly not in the modern era of politics.

 

[Atreus21]

Comparisons between Reagan or Bush and Hitler were rare in comparison to Trump. And it isn't because he's a "boorish cad." It's because he ran a campaign based on fear mongering and blaming various groups (i.e. Mexicans and Muslims) for all of our problems. Comparisons to Hitler aside, Trump has brought a unique combination of total incompetence and moral bankruptcy to the White House which this country has never seen, certainly not in the modern era of modern politics.

Total incompetence? I think we'd have to define that. One can't easily deny that he's gotten some of his major priorities achieved.

 

[cytg111]

http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_maddow_a2russia_180131

Drumph is not playing for the home team and anyone who follows him must by definition either be retarded or a traitor.

 

[jackstar7]

Total incompetence? I think we'd have to define that. One can't easily deny that he's gotten some of his major priorities achieved.

#NoBanNoWall

Also, he campaigned and continues to tout Nazi/KKK slogans.

 

[Atreus21]

#NoBanNoWall

He's negotiating the wall in the present immigration debate. Doesn't he want it as a trade to give amnesty to those 1.8 million dreamers?

Further that's besides the point. Does a president have to achieve every single priority within his first year or be considered totally incompetent?

Also, he campaigned and continues to tout Nazi/KKK slogans.

Like what?

 

[Jhhnn]

Total incompetence? I think we'd have to define that. One can't easily deny that he's gotten some of his major priorities achieved.

True, dat. He be fukkin' us. It's obviously what he intended all along. Con artists have no sympathy for their victims.

 

[jackstar7]

Like what?

Holy shit. You don't know?

Fuck. That's a bubble.

 

[Younigue]

If they didn't watch the address, or read a transcript, they can't have a valid opinion about it. That's demonstrable. If the question is how they "feel" about the event, then it makes some sense, but is completely without value.

If Trump is a president not worth watching that is absolutely a valid argument as to how and why these poll numbers (especially in this) can not be meaningful. Sure sure, it's important to you to take the poll numbers at face value but all you have to do is look around you. The Plague is hated and for good reason. Oh and let's not forget that Trump spews nothing but ugliness and can not be trusted in any way for any reason ever.

How are you not completely exhausted by defending someone so completely unworthy of defense? He keeps putting all y'all's feet to the fire and none of you will even ask for burn cream. You just up your game and put your own damn feet in the fire because why? Hate, corruption and greed MUST WIN THE DAY. Disgusting!

 

[Younigue]

Total incompetence? I think we'd have to define that. One can't easily deny that he's gotten some of his major priorities achieved.

If his priorities are fu*king evil it hardly matters in the 'job well done' sense of getting shit done. One does not cheer the rapist for achieving his goal. unless... Do you? That's fucked up ya sick bastard.

 

[Atreus21]

Holy shit. You don't know?

Fuck. That's a bubble.

Reminds me of when conservatives denounced Obama's re-election slogan "Forward" as parallel to communist ideas like The Great Leap Forward.

I'm sorry but I don't think Trump is giving covert nods to the KKK by his slogan. Trump is to subtlety what oil is to water. How many people even knew the historical use of "America First" before Trump adopted it? Do you think Trump himself did? I doubt it.

 

[jackstar7]

Reminds me of when conservatives denounced Obama's re-election slogan "Forward" as parallel to communist ideas like The Great Leap Forward.

I'm sorry but I don't think Trump is giving covert nods to the KKK by his slogan. Trump is to subtlety what oil is to water. How many people even knew the historical use of "America First" before Trump adopted it? Do you think Trump himself did? I doubt it.

You're a fucking tool. Nothing about it is covert or subtle. It's FRONT AND CENTER.

Do I think he or members of his campaign knew its history? Yes, I fucking do.

And comparing to Obama is ridiculous.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I'm sorry but I don't think Trump is giving covert nods to the KKK by his slogan.

Yeah, you're kinda missing the core argument against trump, he's not covertly doing anything, he's an overt racist, or at least a 'modern' racist, which I would refer to someone who is perfectly willing to be outright hateful toward a group (or anyone other than themselves) but wouldn't have the actual stomach to skin someone alive.

I've known plenty of people exactly like him, family, co-workers, etc. They're miserable, despicable people, who carry nothing in their lives except contempt for those they perceive are keeping them from something they feel that they want or need.

 

[mikeymikec]

Reminds me of when conservatives denounced Obama's re-election slogan "Forward" as parallel to communist ideas like The Great Leap Forward.

I'm sorry but I don't think Trump is giving covert nods to the KKK by his slogan. Trump is to subtlety what oil is to water. How many people even knew the historical use of "America First" before Trump adopted it? Do you think Trump himself did? I doubt it.

Let me see.

He called Mexicans rapists? Check
He said that there were good people at those Nazi rallies? Check.
He retweeted videos from the racist, far-right-wing organisation called Britain First? Check.
He knowingly ran a smear/disinformation campaign against Obama, claiming he wasn't born in America? Check.

What do you need him to do before you would think he's racist, to refer to black people with the N-word?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Let me see.

He called Mexicans rapists? Check
He said that there were good people at those Nazi rallies? Check.
He retweeted videos from the racist, far-right-wing organisation called Britain First? Check.
He knowingly ran a smear/disinformation campaign against Obama, claiming he wasn't born in America? Check.

What do you need him to do before you would think he's racist, to refer to black people as the N-word?

He's literally my racist uncle who forwards 'interesting' emails to everyone. It seems like a lot of people share the same uncle, somehow.

 

[mikeymikec]

He's literally my racist uncle who forwards 'interesting' emails to everyone. It seems like a lot of people share the same uncle, somehow.

One of my uncles at an extended family gathering launched into a conspiracy theory without even a vaguely relevant 'opening' in the conversation that none of the arabs working in the WTC showed up for work on 9/11 because word had already got around that it was going down.

I unfriended one of my cousins on FB after he posted an image talking about a known hoax of a girl that had been kidnapped by non-whites. First I posted a link describing the nature of the hoax. He deleted my response, then I unfriended him.

There are more than enough arseholes to go around.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

One of my uncles at an extended family gathering launched into a conspiracy theory without even a vaguely relevant 'opening' in the conversation that none of the arabs working in the WTC showed up for work on 9/11 because word had already got around that it was going down.

I unfriended one of my cousins on FB after he posted an image talking about a known hoax of a girl that had been kidnapped by non-whites. First I posted a link describing the nature of the hoax. He deleted my response, then I unfriended him.

There are more than enough arseholes to go around.

Yeah, I had one emailing the entire extended family with a pretty rancid piece about Obama bringing about a government-instituted caliphate, and that we should all start buying guns and ammunition to defend ourselves from the Muslim horde (led by the King Muslim, of course).

 

[Younigue]

Yeah, you're kinda missing the core argument against trump, he's not covertly doing anything, he's an overt racist, or at least a 'modern' racist, which I would refer to someone who is perfectly willing to be outright hateful toward a group (or anyone other than themselves) but wouldn't have the actual stomach to skin someone alive.

I've known plenty of people exactly like him, family, co-workers, etc. They're miserable, despicable people, who carry nothing in their lives except contempt for those they perceive are keeping them from something they feel that they want or need.

And inexplicably believe they deserve.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

And inexplicably believe they deserve.

It's a natural mental progression... You see others with $thing, feel envy (despite never having a need for $thing in your life), create an enemy (preferably foreign from your own group, whatever group that might be) that you can blame for you not having $thing, then feel that you *would* have that $thing if it weren't for them. You DESERVE $thing, but those rat-bastards are keeping you from it.

Copypaste to billions of individuals, and scale vertically for every regressive political push in documented history.