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Younigue

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Since the poll was about the SOTU address, there wouldn't be any point in polling people that didn't watch it.
Would you poll 600 people that have never watched the Superbowl and ask them if they thought it was a good game?
So... There's nothing to the fact that many people chose not to watch because Trump is a disease? With this SOTU address specifically it wasn't just the politically uninvolved who didn't watch.

But you know, way to be super simple. You nailed it!
 

Muse

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Republicanism really does seem like a mental affliction.
I've never voted for a Republican. However, my dad was a registered Republican. He seems to have gotten that from having served in WW II in the Pacific theater. Eisenhower was, of course, the chief of European operations for the allies. I have no idea how my father voted post 1950's, though. He didn't talk politics. My mother was a Democrat, absolutely. Myself, I find Republican politics abhorrent and don't hesitate to explain that.

I have very strongly felt from even before the election that Trump is the worst role model for children and think that his election is one of the worst repercussions of the election result. It's staggering that Republicans can think that Trump is a good role model for children. In fact, I'm sure they don't. They simply do not think about it, they are incapable or disinclined to think about it. When asked if he is, they don't think of him, what he is, they think of the fact that he's head of state. Trump himself has encouraged his children thus: "dream big, you're going to dream anyway, you may as well dream big." Republicans are thinking in those terms when asked about DJT as a role model, IMO. They aren't thinking of who he is as a person. That escapes them.
 
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Alpha One Seven

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I took your statement "you have no idea what the topic is" as an opportunity to remind you, and everyone else, that 72% of Republicans said they think Trump is a good role model for children.

Mostly because I like reminding you, and everyone else, that 72% of Republicans said they think Trump is a good role model for children.
Fact check time. ...Incorrect. 72% of those republicans polled in that location on that day, is not the same as 72%. lol
 

Alpha One Seven

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I've never voted for a Republican. However, my dad was a registered Republican. He seems to have gotten that from having served in WW II in the Pacific theater. Eisenhower was, of course, the chief of European operations for the allies. I have no idea how my father voted post 1950's, though. He didn't talk politics. My mother was a Democrat, absolutely. Myself, I find Republican politics abhorrent and don't hesitate to explain that.

I have very strongly felt from even before the election that Trump is the worst role model for children and think that his election is one of the worst repercussions of the election result. It's staggering that Republicans can think that Trump is a good role model for children. In fact, I'm sure they don't. They simply do not think about it, they are incapable or disinclined to think about it. When asked if he is, they don't think of him, what he is, they think of the fact that he's head of state. Trump himself has encouraged his children thus: "dream big, you're going to dream anyway, you may as well dream big." Republicans are thinking in those terms when asked about DJT as a role model, IMO. They aren't thinking of who he is as a person. That escapes them.
Yep, cutting government spending and cutting taxes is abhorrent all right, you can send any extra money you will get from your lower taxes to me so that you don't look like a hypocrite.
 

HomerJS

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Fact check time. ...Incorrect. 72% of those republicans polled in that location on that day, is not the same as 72%. lol
Would you not question the sanity if 72% of Republicans polled anywhere in this country think Trump would be a better role model for their kids then Obama??

BTW - How would you answer this question? Don't dodge and say neither, pick one.
 

Younigue

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Yep, cutting government spending and cutting taxes is abhorrent all right, you can send any extra money you will get from your lower taxes to me so that you don't look like a hypocrite.
Yup, you definitely feel pretty clever for wielding that limp-dick shite. It's astounding how easily Trump has convinced the morons that stupid words are just as strong and important as well thought out, informed words. Trump is killing the country and you're applauding it. That's super clever!
 

Jhhnn

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Yup, you definitely feel pretty clever for wielding that limp-dick shite. It's astounding how easily Trump has convinced the morons that stupid words are just as strong and important as well thought out, informed words. Trump is killing the country and you're applauding it. That's super clever!

Alpha avoids thinking too deeply about anything. He normally avoids thinking altogether, preferring to repeat those oh-so satisfying talking points.
 
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blackangst1

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CNN who polled similar to CBS people before the speech and after found less flattering results where:

Trump gets least positive reaction in at least 20 years

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/state-of-the-union-reaction-poll/index.html

Almost half of Americans who watched President Donald Trump's first State of the Union address -- 48% -- say they had a "very positive" impression of the speech, down from 57% of speech-watchers after his first address to match Barack Obama's rating after his first State of the Union address, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

It's the lowest net positive rating for a State of the Union address since at least 1998, when CNN first asked the question. There is no equivalent poll for addresses before 1998.
Proof that polls can give you whatever data you want to support :)
 

blackangst1

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Well they are bullshit but just how much is the question. The CNN poll like the CBS poll only questioned people that watched. From their page:

The CNN poll was conducted by SSRS on January 30, 2018, among 549 Americans who watched Trump's address. Respondents were first interviewed as part of a random national samples conducted from January 14-18 and January 25-28. In those interviews, respondents indicated they planned to watch Tuesday night's speech and said they were willing to be re-interviewed. Results for the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.2 percentage points; it is larger for subgroups.

Some important caveats: This survey reflects the views of only those who watched the speech, not of all Americans. The poll was conducted among a group of Americans who said in prior interviews that they planned to watch the speech and were willing to be contacted after its conclusion.

People who choose to watch a political speech tend to be more supportive of the speaker than the general population; this sample was about 7 points more Republican than the entire American population.
Why would they poll people who didn't watch? LOL
 
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Yup, you definitely feel pretty clever for wielding that limp-dick shite. It's astounding how easily Trump has convinced the morons that stupid words are just as strong and important as well thought out, informed words. Trump is killing the country and you're applauding it. That's super clever!

As Frum says in his new book: “By August 2017, what was left of the philosophy formerly known as conservatism beyond ‘fuck you, leftists?’”
 

Alpha One Seven

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Would you not question the sanity if 72% of Republicans polled anywhere in this country think Trump would be a better role model for their kids then Obama??

BTW - How would you answer this question? Don't dodge and say neither, pick one.
Obama??? You are joking right? The worst role model I could think of, another politician. lol
 

Alpha One Seven

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Well, both have been President, but Trump has done more to grow the economy and has the market at new highs and unemployment at 45 year lows and historic lows for blacks and Hispanics, and is a lot more successful as a businessman and is a great father, so I guess you know which would be more logical, I just hope I taught my kids that politicians and lawyers are NOT good role models. :)
 

jackstar7

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Well, both have been President, but Trump has done more to grow the economy and has the market at new highs and unemployment at 45 year lows and historic lows for blacks and Hispanics, and is a lot more successful as a businessman and is a great father, so I guess you know which would be more logical, I just hope I taught my kids that politicians and lawyers are NOT good role models. :)
Feed them lies, let them fall.

That's some weird parenting.
 

Younigue

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Why would they poll people who didn't watch? LOL

Idiot. Because of why they chose not to watch. Your Great Reality TV Star is damn near unwatchable. It would be bad enough if he were only a bumbling idiot but nah, he's also a corrupt, traitorous, greedy, gluttonous, slovenly piece of shit. All that dick has left to "show" us worth watching is when he is removed or resigns. Back to the point, why people didn't watch is in fact more important than what his salivating masses thought of his speech. That you don't get that... well, why is it that you wish to make being a dumbass trendy? It's as dumb if not dumber than the Tide Pod challenge.
 

mikeymikec

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I live in the real world. not a fantasy imagined by the socialist left.
Keep on imagining your own little world.

You presented the analogy dude. People present analogies to explain their perception of the real world. I thought yours was rather revealing, as it reflected the Republican position on Roy Moore's candidacy for example.
 

Younigue

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Obama??? You are joking right? The worst role model I could think of, another politician. lol
He may have made some mistakes but no matter what he presented himself as a good and decent man. How did you manage to see something other than that?
 
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He may have made some mistakes but no matter what he presented himself as a good and decent man. How did you manage to see something other than that?

I'm guessing it was the Kenyan anti-colonialist, Muslim terrorist supporting, Sharia Law promotion stuff. Oh yeah, don't forget the terrorist fist bump attitude as well. ;)
 

mikeymikec

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I'm guessing it was the Kenyan anti-colonialist, Muslim terrorist supporting, Sharia Law promotion stuff. Oh yeah, don't forget the terrorist fist bump attitude as well. ;)

And don't forget that time he tried to take away all their guns as part of his blatant socialist lefty agenda.
 

UNCjigga

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Well, both have been President, but Trump has done more to grow the economy and has the market at new highs and unemployment at 45 year lows and historic lows for blacks and Hispanics, and is a lot more successful as a businessman and is a great father, so I guess you know which would be more logical...
LOL, and you said you lived in the real world! Such an obvious little troll...
 
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