You need to make only $55,000 per day - that's it!

[Noah Abrams]

There was a class war and the rich won. Democracy is dead. The rich will be happy so long as the difference between liberal and conservative stays in a conservative range. d.

It was a Republican president not centuries ago that wanted a national health care. I would say modern Republican are not really into any principles. Just money.

 

[Noah Abrams]

. If your candidate isn't a known as a complete fool and madman, don't vote for him or her. I mean, who cares if democracy is dead.

Ironically if the Democratic Party wasn’t so corrupt and slaves to the rich and powerful, this madman wouldn’t have gotten within 500 miles of the White House.

But of course the standard reasoning on the left is the same old. Racism. Deplorables. Hicks.

 

[ivwshane]

Ironically if the Democratic Party wasn’t so corrupt and slaves to the rich and powerful, this madman wouldn’t have gotten within 500 miles of the White House.

But of course the standard reasoning on the left is the same old. Racism. Deplorables. Hicks.

Uh what?

So Democrats are the corrupt ones because a different group of people (of which the data shows they are more likely to be less educated, racially ignorant, and motivated by race) voted for trump?

Why don't you just come out and say you hate facts and prefer your reality to be skewed?

 

[Noah Abrams]

Uh what?

So Democrats are the corrupt ones because a different group of people (of which the data shows they are more likely to be less educated, racially ignorant, and motivated by race) voted for trump?

Why don't you just come out and say you hate facts and prefer your reality to be skewed?

Please. It is not just racism that has played its part. I think it’s not that hard to see.

 

[Noah Abrams]

By the way the election of vile one validates American democracy in a way. Because on the Republican side the guy with most dollars, Jeb Bush, got sent home very quickly

On the Democrats side money won. And we are here now

 

[Noah Abrams]

How blind to reality the Democrat voter has to be to not see how disgusting this is? That it is just a whore house. You can just imagine...Kamala honey, raise your skirt for me a bit. Actually in her case on second thoughts, God no! Ha

 

[Noah Abrams]

Another thing about this New York money which of course goes to both parties. A lot of if not most of these rich ones have names like Ari, Goldberg, Weinstein etc. This is an important reason so many poor brown people in Middle East have and keep burying their children. And so many children get orphaned.

As the old saying goes. Money is the root of all evil.

 

[cytg111]

Ironically if the Democratic Party wasn’t so corrupt and slaves to the rich and powerful, this madman wouldn’t have gotten within 500 miles of the White House.

But of course the standard reasoning on the left is the same old. Racism. Deplorables. Hicks.

Mmmm.. rewind the clock to day zero and place your odds on Trump and Sanders.. I would have put more money on Sanders.. If and if and if.. Sanders could have been POTUS today, that I believe. If I believe that then it follows that democracy is not dead in the US either.
Voter turnout in Denmark is about 85%. It is a consensus, if you dont vote you dont get to bitch about current state of affairs. Voting is part of the culture.

 

[Moonbeam]

Ironically, the guy crying about money in politics is afraid of Bernie's socialism.

He claims in his post to this that it isn’t fear, but to me it doesn’t much matter what you call it, fear, contempt, implanted brainwashing, logical thinking, when all the alternative leave us with democracy dead, Sanders was the only one focused on what to my mind was and is the real issue. Money must be removed from politics and all who remain in an inertial state, either opposing or inert must be voted out of office. When that happens we can start to filter for proof of functional modalitie, what works best as policy. If Bernie socialism is a non starter, out with it.

I the mean time we are arguing about how many angles can dance on American democracy’s grave.

 

[dank69]

He claims in his post to this that it isn’t fear, but to me it doesn’t much matter what you call it, fear, contempt, implanted brainwashing, logical thinking, when all the alternative leave us with democracy dead, Sanders was the only one focused on what to my mind was and is the real issue. Money must be removed from politics and all who remain in an inertial state, either opposing or inert must be voted out of office. When that happens we can start to filter for proof of functional modalitie, what works best as policy. If Bernie socialism is a non starter, out with it.

I the mean time we are arguing about how many angles can dance on American democracy’s grave.

Let's not forget that Hillary lobbied for getting money out of politics as well. I heard her mention it on the campaign trail no less than five times. Too bad nobody gave a shit what that she-beast said.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Let's not forget that Hillary lobbied for getting money out of politics as well. I heard her mention it on the campaign trail no less than five times. Too bad nobody gave a shit what that she-beast said.

You prove the point. She had a stranglehold on the New York money, so much so there wasn’t even any other contender for it. She gobbled it all up, the part meant for Dees that is.

Yes she lobbied for getting money out of politics as all these current stalwarts will in the campaign trail.

And it proves the point that the typical D voter is not any different from the R one. Both believe what they want to believe.

 

[dank69]

You prove the point. She had a stranglehold on the New York money, so much so there wasn’t even any other contender for it. She gobbled it all up, the part meant for Dees that is.

Yes she lobbied for getting money out of politics as all these current stalwarts will in the campaign trail.

And it proves the point that the typical D voter is not any different from the R one. Both believe what they want to believe.

I didn't "prove" anything. Your post is pure opinion. What does "gobbled it all up" even mean? What is your source for such a claim?

Speaking of believing what you want to believe, you just believe she was lying because you want to. Meanwhile, the justices appointed by Democrats consistently rule against money in politics while the justices appointed by the GOP rule for it.

 

[Moonbeam]

You prove the point. She had a stranglehold on the New York money, so much so there wasn’t even any other contender for it. She gobbled it all up, the part meant for Dees that is.

Yes she lobbied for getting money out of politics as all these current stalwarts will in the campaign trail.

And it proves the point that the typical D voter is not any different from the R one. Both believe what they want to believe.

Let's not forget that Hillary lobbied for getting money out of politics as well. I heard her mention it on the campaign trail no less than five times. Too bad nobody gave a shit what that she-beast said.

I didn’t stay home on Election Day because Sanders lost. I voted for Clinton. But even if she said it many times it was not her focus like it was with Sanders. What Democrats did was nominate the democrat most despised by Americans suffering the effects of the fact our democracy is dead, the most uninformed, the most angry, instead of the one who had a message aimed at them. Clinton appealed to reason and Sanders aimed for the gut, like Trimp did. Only Sanders targeted the message in a way that mattered, that could have appealed to the angry vote. Democrats, sadly, have no notion generally, how to appeal to passion. They don’t get moral outrage beyond calling people stupid. Get a Democrat upset about something and he will cal you stupid and rush to punish you by eating some worms. You all need Foghorn Leghorn to straighten you out.

 

[umbrella39]

Behind the scenes drumming up business troll is transparent but is apparently effective based on the fact that people reply with serious facts they think this troll is going to acknowledge. Stop wasting time... How many more sock puppet accounts will the handlers here tolerate?

 

[Jhhnn]

Mmmm.. rewind the clock to day zero and place your odds on Trump and Sanders.. I would have put more money on Sanders.. If and if and if.. Sanders could have been POTUS today, that I believe. If I believe that then it follows that democracy is not dead in the US either.
Voter turnout in Denmark is about 85%. It is a consensus, if you dont vote you dont get to bitch about current state of affairs. Voting is part of the culture.

Yeh, Bernie woulda won... if Americans had the same sensibilities as Danes. That's obviously not true. A fair % of Americans are proud to be ignorant. You can see that here every day. I doubt that's nearly so true in your country.

 

[MrSquished]

I think Bernie would have won and fuck the Democrats for stacking the deck against him because Hilary was the anointed one. I don't care if he had a real shot to win or not, the fact is they did that. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should have been drawn and quartered, instead Hilary gave her a job.

 

[Noah Abrams]

I didn't "prove" anything. Your post is pure opinion. What does "gobbled it all up" even mean? What is your source for such a claim?

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It was mentioned even in the piece I posted.

It’s a well known fact about the Mrs close connections with the moneyed crowd of NY, whose names are like Rothschild, Goldman, Levin etc. Hence the Palestinians she once was somewhat sympathetic towards became insects to her when her next level of ambition drove to her to be a Senator from NY

And the guy who is actually Jewish, Bernie that is, is quite despised by the Goldbergs of our country. How dare you have any honesty and humanity inside you! You anti Semite!! It’s almost funny

 

[Jhhnn]

It was mentioned even in the piece I posted.

It’s a well known fact about the Mrs close connections with the moneyed crowd of NY, whose names are like Rothschild, Goldman, Levin etc. Hence the Palestinians she once was somewhat sympathetic towards became insects to her when her next level of ambition drove to her to be a Senator from NY

And the guy who is actually Jewish, Bernie that is, is quite despised by the Goldbergs of our country. How dare you have any honesty and humanity inside you! You anti Semite!! It’s almost funny

Ignorant & proud of it, huh? Not to mention jumping from issue to issue to maintain scorn.

Obama was very much at odds with Bibi over the Pals. The relationship was icy. Not Trump. He loves Bibi. His appointment of Friedman as ambassador, a rabid pro-settler voice, tells us all we need to know. He then drove that home moving the embassy to Jerusalem & vetoing UN attempts to sanction Israel for murdering unarmed Palestinian protesters. Renouncing the Iran deal was obviously coordinated with Bibi, as well.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think Bernie would have won and fuck the Democrats for stacking the deck against him because Hilary was the anointed one. I don't care if he had a real shot to win or not, the fact is they did that. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should have been drawn and quartered, instead Hilary gave her a job.

Not the Poor Bernie! So cheated! He woulda won! bullshit, please. Hillary got 55% of the primary vote. Bernie got 43%. He couldn't even win Democrats in an honest fight, let alone the whole country.

 

[MrSquished]

Not the Poor Bernie! So cheated! He woulda won! bullshit, please. Hillary got 55% of the primary vote. Bernie got 43%. He couldn't even win Democrats in an honest fight, let alone the whole country.

If he wasn't a threat then there would have been no need to try to undermine him.

Yes he woulda beat Trump. This was an election about appealing to the gut, something which Hilary had problems doing, and Bernie did not.

 

[Jhhnn]

If he wasn't a threat then there would have been no need to try to undermine him.

Yes he woulda beat Trump. This was an election about appealing to the gut, something which Hilary had problems doing, and Bernie did not.

I always love the vague references to some sort of actual malfeasance leading to Bernie's defeat. He got a fair shot. He just didn't win.

You apparently don't realize that cultivating that divisive bitterness was a large part of Russian efforts, either. Trumpsters weren't the only chumpsters in the 2016 election.

 

[MrSquished]

I always love the vague references to some sort of actual malfeasance leading to Bernie's defeat. He got a fair shot. He just didn't win.

You apparently don't realize that cultivating that divisive bitterness was a large part of Russian efforts, either. Trumpsters weren't the only chumpsters in the 2016 election.

I appreciate where the email hack came from, doesn't change the content of the emails. And then Hilary gives Schultz a job. That was just an insult to the whole process. If you can't see that, not my problem.

 

[Moonbeam]

Not the Poor Bernie! So cheated! He woulda won! bullshit, please. Hillary got 55% of the primary vote. Bernie got 43%. He couldn't even win Democrats in an honest fight, let alone the whole country.

Hehe, nice way to miss the point by mischaracterizing the issue. Let me try and clarify it for you:

The moment I heard that Trump had announced his intention to run I knew he would win his primary. What was 99 percent or more of the pundits saying? And after he won I knew he was a far greater threat to Clinton than people were seeing. I did my small bit trying to warn people here that Sanders had a better chance. So when you tell me that Clinton got 55% and Sanders only 43%, what you are telling me is the percentage of democrats that failed, unlike me, to see what potentially was coming. The facts are that if Sanders had been in the general and won that means you helped to elect Trump and that is what you continue to protect yourself from seeing.

You fail to understand that I don’t care about some silly contest about me being right and you wrong, or what happened to poor poor Bernie Sanders. I care about the fact that you are intrenching yourself deeper and deeper into delusion. You a poor understanding of what kind of message is needed to beat Republicans and you will act out of the same blindness in the future. There is nothing I can do to convince you of that blindness, but you will note I think that Clinton lost as I worried she might, all because in my opinion, she had the inferior message. My only interest in this is that you might have less wax in your ears and maybe hear better next time. You are at the intellectual level of debating policy via reason but lose elections. That and a couple of bills will get you a coffee at Starbucks.

 

[Moonbeam]

I always love the vague references to some sort of actual malfeasance leading to Bernie's defeat. He got a fair shot. He just didn't win.

You apparently don't realize that cultivating that divisive bitterness was a large part of Russian efforts, either. Trumpsters weren't the only chumpsters in the 2016 election.

The fact the Russians cultivated divisiveness has no effect on whether Sanders or Clinton had the best chance in the general. Had Sanders won there would have been a lot of Clinton babies who would have stayed home. What would you say about that?

 

[Noah Abrams]

Obama was very much at odds with Bibi over the Pals. The relationship was icy. ll.

Yeah that was just the surface stuff. In real terms it meant nothing. Obama just like any other obedient politician bent over for the things that mattered. The big arms sale to Israel for example. And so on. Plus I was talking about the fondness of Mrs for the Levins of this world

Bernie is cut from a different cloth. He isn’t really part of the corrupt soulless Dem establishment. Hence very much disliked by the Goldbergs of this world. The ones whose dollars run the political machinery.