You need to make only $55,000 per day - that's it!

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For a Democrat to become the next President. So they are it at with full vigor already to get to that $300 million mark. And the 57th Street across Manhattan is where the action is.

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As Stu Loeser, a veteran Democratic strategist in New York, put it, “The road to the White House runs down 57th Street.”

It is more than a figure of speech. In the 2016 cycle, two of the top five ZIP codes for political giving in America — 10022 and 10019, which span the length of 57th Street across Midtown Manhattan just south of Central Park — combined for $120 million in donations, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
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It is the usual crowd - hedge fund billionaires, Morgan Stanley, Nasdaq, and so on. A sample here

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In March, Mr. Biden was the special guest at a $10,000 per-person dinner benefiting House Democrats, at the home of the billionaire hedge fund manager James S. Chanos. In April, he attended a private fund-raising lunch at the home of a major Democratic donor, Dennis Mehiel, for his political action committee.

The night after Mr. Biden’s April visit, Ms. Warren mingled with donors at the Manhattan home of Mark Green, a former New York City public advocate, the official reason being her 2018 re-election bid (for which she has already stockpiled $15 million). A few months earlier, Meyer S. Frucher, the vice chairman of Nasdaq, hosted another fund-raising reception for Ms. Warren, according to people familiar with the gatherings.
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The $10,000 dinners per person are for House Democrats are so that these Democrats can work for people who make $10,000 per year. I know the rate is higher for Presidential dinners.

Maybe all these hard at work Democrats are doing this so they can campaign against and eliminate the corrupting influence of money in politics. Maybe tomorrow there will be lasting peace in the world. I mean, neither is out of the realm of possibility. What does a know nothing person like me know anyway? If I did, I would be one of those these hopefuls would be calling and lining up to get into my plush offices.

Or maybe these billionaires do this so their income and influence could be reduced, for the benefit of the average voting American. Maybe they are that sacrificing. I mean, it is not impossible now, is it?

But yes, the bottom line is, if you want the 1% not to rule over us, vote for Democrats. Because Republicans as we all know are party of the rich. And they got those ignorant hicks to vote against their own interests by appealing to their prejudices. But the typical Democrat voter voting for the Deees is the more educated and enlightened one.

The Democrats hard at work for the average American
 
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Jhhnn

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So what? If rich Democrats wanted to finance a Party that would serve their interests exclusively they'd be Republicans.
 
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So what? If rich Democrats wanted to finance a Party that would serve their interests exclusively they'd be Republicans.

Right. So as I speculated that the hedge fund billionaires and all their super PACs are there partly to serve the interest of the average American. They are a selfless lot.
 

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Or maybe these billionaires do this so their income and influence could be reduced, for the benefit of the average voting American. Maybe they are that sacrificing. I mean, it is not impossible now, is it?

To me it is sound logic.
First recognize that whether you got 10mil or 100mil+ on that card your lifestyle is not going to change by that much, you are already eating at the most expensive restaurants got the fanciest clothes, cars and invited to about the same social circles. Essentially that means that for a person go for fortune above 10m+ is in it for the social status of it, bragging rights (OR you could be a dude on a mission like Elon Musk, Bezos etc.).
Second if you own and cut down all the trees, at the end of the day, no one, including yourself will be eating anything.
Third your children may want a society, a world to explore, to be part of. At the end of the day it is not trickle down economics its trickle up society, whatever luxury items the 1% enjoys it is getting conceptualized and produced "down there" ... In my mind a healthy middle class is the direct path to an increasingly richer lifestyle for the 1%'ers.
 

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Like high end brothels have different types of rooms and services depending on the types of customers ....

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There is a distinctive hierarchy to this donor dance: the bigger the contributor, the smaller the gathering. Billionaires and the biggest bundlers get almost limitless one-on-one time. The next tranche of mega-millionaires and political financiers get intimate dinners or office gatherings. Larger receptions are for standard-fare contributors.
 

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As we know and the article noted too, Bernie is the only exception among Democrats who doesn’t participate in the brothel services.

I don’t agree much with his brand of socialism but I respect the guy.
 

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Are we doing the #bothsides thing again? If so it’s incredibly tiresome.

The donor class wields influence over both parties to an extent. That extent is nowhere remotely equal between the parties. To understand this merely requires opening a newspaper once every few months.
 

Jhhnn

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Right. So as I speculated that the hedge fund billionaires and all their super PACs are there partly to serve the interest of the average American. They are a selfless lot.

Like I said- if they weren't willing to make greater compromise with working people they'd be trickle down Republicans.
 

Jhhnn

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Are we doing the #bothsides thing again? If so it’s incredibly tiresome.

The donor class wields influence over both parties to an extent. That extent is nowhere remotely equal between the parties. To understand this merely requires opening a newspaper once every few months.

Of course we are. Oh, and Bernie woulda won. If he hadn't been cheated by the dirty Democrats.

Same old story, same old song & da-a-a-ance...
 

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Like I said- if they weren't willing to make greater compromise with working people they'd be trickle down Republicans.

What those greater comprises are ...there are so many of them but I could offer some examples. That lower middle class continues to be condemned to shitty public schools supporting an army of government bureaucrats and teachers who are impossible to fire. Because charter schools threaten the status quo, we need to stop them. That lower middle class continues to be told they are victims of the rich and the govt is there to protect them, all the while screwing them. And harvesting them for votes of course the most important part.

That hedge funds and the world of big money continues to prosper ...
 

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Of course we are. Oh, and Bernie woulda won. If he hadn't been cheated by the dirty Democrats.

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You don’t like the fact that he didn’t perform fellatio? And still refuses to do so? How utterly unAmerican!! Again I don’t agree with his politics but do have respect for him
 

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Of course we are. Oh, and Bernie woulda won. If he hadn't been cheated by the dirty Democrats.

Same old story, same old song & da-a-a-ance...

He’s like some sort of intellectual Frankenstein’s monster: every dumb idea you have when you’re 17-20 that you think is secretly brilliant stitched together.
 

Jhhnn

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What those greater comprises are ...there are so many of them but I could offer some examples. That lower middle class continues to be condemned to shitty public schools supporting an army of government bureaucrats and teachers who are impossible to fire. Because charter schools threaten the status quo, we need to stop them. That lower middle class continues to be told they are victims of the rich and the govt is there to protect them, all the while screwing them. And harvesting them for votes of course the most important part.

That hedge funds and the world of big money continues to prosper ...

Alternatively we can just go on with the top down class warfare trickle down Reaganomics of the GOP, the ideology that replaced the New Deal.
 

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It is quite curious and interesting that the same process is followed by say a hick or an enlightened Dem. For the hick, the steps are simple. For example - my party is the party of God, and the other is the party of f*gg*ts. For the liberal, the steps are a bit more convoluted (because he is more educated), but the basic mechanism and process is the same. No matter how much evidence there is to the contrary, my tribe is my tribe. That is it!!!!
 

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To me it is sound logic.
First recognize that whether you got 10mil or 100mil+ on that card your lifestyle is not going to change by that much, you are already eating at the most expensive restaurants got the fanciest clothes, cars and invited to about the same social circles. Essentially that means that for a person go for fortune above 10m+ is in it for the social status of it, bragging rights .

Of the many essentially unimportant things I have learned in my life, one is that for the rich, there is never enough. The one who has $5 million wants $10 million. The one who has $10 million wants 20 and so on. One can even argue that is one main reason they are rich in the first place. Related to this fact is that the rich unlike the poor, never waste their money. Every bit of money they spend means something. So the political contributions are an investment for themselves. And a very profitable one at that.
 

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OP was far more interesting when he was posing as Bernie Supporter pre-election. Same shit, different sock..
 

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Of the many essentially unimportant things I have learned in my life, one is that for the rich, there is never enough. The one who has $5 million wants $10 million. The one who has $10 million wants 20 and so on. One can even argue that is one main reason they are rich in the first place. Related to this fact is that the rich unlike the poor, never waste their money. Every bit of money they spend means something. So the political contributions are an investment for themselves. And a very profitable one at that.

I think you are cutting too thick.


Goto about 2:40

Plenty of rich-rich people have come forward denouncing the recent tax cuts, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-taxes/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8079263126ab
 

Jhhnn

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Stupid thread. Democrat 1%ers voted to raise taxes on themselves so that poor Trump Trash can at least have Medicaid. Trump Trash voted to stay trashy and uninsured.

For Freedumb! For the MAGA!
 

Noah Abrams

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Plenty of rich-rich people have come forward denouncing the recent tax cuts, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet etc.

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Yes there are a few rich philanthropists. But someone like Gates is spending money to fight malaria, not giving it to vermin and mosquitoes like Hillary etc. He is not the political donor class on 57th Street.
 

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There was a class war and the rich won. Democracy is dead. The rich will be happy so long as the difference between liberal and conservative stays in a conservative range. But any democrat who is wants to radically alter the balance of power back to the middle class, will find himself tarnished as an impractical radical, unfit to hold office. If your candidate isn't a known as a complete fool and madman, don't vote for him or her. I mean, who cares if democracy is dead.
 

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There was a class war and the rich won. Democracy is dead. The rich will be happy so long as the difference between liberal and conservative stays in a conservative range. But any democrat who is wants to radically alter the balance of power back to the middle class, will find himself tarnished as an impractical radical, unfit to hold office. If your candidate isn't a known as a complete fool and madman, don't vote for him or her. I mean, who cares if democracy is dead.
Ironically, the guy crying about money in politics is afraid of Bernie's socialism.
 

Noah Abrams

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Ironically, the guy crying about money in politics is afraid of Bernie's socialism.

Afraid? Probably not. In material terms I’ve got not much to be afraid of socialism. But it’s not about me. It is about the facade that is put up in the name of D vs R to fool the ones who vote. Most don’t vote anyway

Expect this whole lineup to forcefully denounce money in politics come the primaries.