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Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: dabuddha
The school is being retarded. It's not like they even hand you your real diploma at graduation.

i got my real diploma at both my HS and College graduation

This is extremely rare. Did they also hold the ceremony after the grades for the final semester were all tallied? If not, then they just opted to deal with the hassle that most choose to avoid involving the issues of having a diploma only to find out that you are not actually a graduate because you ended up failing one class or something at the very end.

in NYS its done after all the regents BS so yes all grades are finilaized for HS, which is why i graduated on june 25th

same with collegeall our finals finished at least a week before graduation
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
The school is being retarded. It's not like they even hand you your real diploma at graduation.

Mine did, but they could easily give her a prop for the ceremony. There's no reason she can't walk other than irrelevant technicality.
 

paulxcook

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It's just a high school grad ceremony, let her walk. This is why administrators exist, to make one-time judgments based on special circumstances. Not to just point at a list of rules. If you weigh the benefits of either situation, letting her walk or not letting her walk, the choice here seems pretty obvious.
 

Poulsonator

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Aug 19, 2002
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I walked with my college class without having completed all of my degree requirements. I finished in the summer, and they had no problems letting me (and anyone else) walk.

It's a joke, and the school and everyone else involved are just being assholes. Give these assholes just a little bit of 'power' and you see what happens.

joshsquall hit it on the head...graduation is nothing but a dog and pony show. In this particular case, walking would be a huge deal for Leanna and an incredible milestone/accomplishment, considering what she's been through. Of course, the pricks that won't let her walk are cold, heartless bastards that have NEVER had to go through anything like Leanna, so it's easy for them to hide behind their titles and desks and simply say 'No'.

Incredible.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: BoomerD
What if she is allowed to do this, then doesn't pass the courses over the summer?

I realize the graduation walk is more of a symbolic thing, but it SHOULD mean the person had met all the graduation requirements.

Even so, considering the situation, they should let her walk. (although I can see a slippery slope of other people who don't meet the requirements demanding to be allowed to walk if she is allowed to)

Students are permitted to walk all of the time even though they do not end up passing the course. The reason why it works out is because walking is not graduating. You do not get your diploma yet and you are not officially entered in as a graduate in the computers. You are simply participating in a ceremony.

This girl obviously worked her butt off in High School and the only problem is that she got cancer. She just needs the time to do what she did during the previous 3 years except this time there is only one class to take and it is English. I'm sure she will do just fine.

Like others have said, same thing has been done here. I had a friend who had some extenuating circumstances that took her away from school long enough for her to come up a few credits shy by graduation. She was considered a "walker" but not an actual graduate. So she took part in the ceremony and then just finished up a class in the summer.

I suppose I understand the university sticking to their guns about the rules, but eh, it wouldn't end law and order if they let this one slide.
 

Steve

Lifer
May 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: mugs
We've had this discussion here before... and most people here have no sympathy for people like her.

Personally, I don't see the problem with letting her walk since she'll finish up over the summer. My college allowed that. I see no value in being so legalistic.

(Edited for clarity)

I agree with mugs

My college let people who served in the military walk with their class even tho they weren?t technically graduating because they spent time over seas during college

It?s pretty pathetic that they won?t let her walk, you can bitch all you want ATOT, we know most of you are heartless assholes already

Most of them are heartless bastards on the internet, because in real life they watch Morning Musume and cry when Optimus Prime dies.

Fixed.
 

dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
We've had this discussion here before... and most people here have no sympathy for people like her.

Personally, I don't see the problem with letting her walk since she'll finish up over the summer. My college allowed that. I see no value in being so legalistic.

(Edited for clarity)

Most people here don't have sympathy because they're too busy admiring themselves in the mirror of their company Lexus with their supermodel girlfriend in the passenger seat.

Either that or they're no-job-having losers posting from their mom's basement who've never experienced a day of real adversity in their meaningless lives.

Take your pick.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: dabuddha
The school is being retarded. It's not like they even hand you your real diploma at graduation.

i got my real diploma at both my HS and College graduation

This is extremely rare. Did they also hold the ceremony after the grades for the final semester were all tallied? If not, then they just opted to deal with the hassle that most choose to avoid involving the issues of having a diploma only to find out that you are not actually a graduate because you ended up failing one class or something at the very end.

in NYS its done after all the regents BS so yes all grades are finilaized for HS, which is why i graduated on june 25th

same with collegeall our finals finished at least a week before graduation

Ahh that explains it. In Texas, graduation was done near the end of May before final grades were tallied.

 

rasczak

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: dabuddha
The school is being retarded. It's not like they even hand you your real diploma at graduation.

Mine did, but they could easily give her a prop for the ceremony. There's no reason she can't walk other than irrelevant technicality.

Or an asshole school board, principal, and vice principal. maybe they should get cancer just to see what it feels like, then die from it.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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One part of me says let her be at graduation. Another part of me says she hasn't finished school yet. And an even bigger part of me says I really don't care to care. ;) I honestly don't look back at my graduation as a time of celebration or accomplishment or anything. I look back on it as just another day. Glad it's over with. Then I didn't even attend my college graduation.
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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WTF, my highschool allowed a kid to walk for the exact same reasons. Had cancer, fell behind, would obviously be able to make it up over summer. And yeah, like others, I knew plenty of people who walked at college without receiving their diploma.

She should crash the ceremony. It'd be appropriately embarrassing for the highschool if a substantial number of students showed up, then walked OUT.
 

Xavier434

Lifer
Oct 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
WTF, my highschool allowed a kid to walk for the exact same reasons. Had cancer, fell behind, would obviously be able to make it up over summer. And yeah, like others, I knew plenty of people who walked at college without receiving their diploma.

She should crash the ceremony. It'd be appropriately embarrassing for the highschool if a substantial number of students showed up, then walked OUT.

Also toss in them demanding that she be able to walk or none of them would walk. That would be great. If the masses chose to do that in my high school then I would join them. I would even go as far as to video tape it and send it to as many news sources as possible. Schools need to learn No Tolerance policies such as these should never be tolerated.
 

Codewiz

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Jan 23, 2002
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Ceremony does not mean you have completed all the requirements. Hell most universities reserve the right to revoke your degree for the next 5 years if they find a mistake or error. So what is the big deal in letting her walk?
 
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
WTF, my highschool allowed a kid to walk for the exact same reasons. Had cancer, fell behind, would obviously be able to make it up over summer. And yeah, like others, I knew plenty of people who walked at college without receiving their diploma.

She should crash the ceremony. It'd be appropriately embarrassing for the highschool if a substantial number of students showed up, then walked OUT.

Or gets one of the speakers to give a speech about how the school is crappy and wont let her walk because she missed classes due to cancer. That would be simple stunning.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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WTF, unless she slacked off all the time, I don't see why this gesture cannot be allowed. What a bunch of idiots.
 

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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School is right. Cancer is her problem, she should get over her sense of entitlement.
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
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My high school let students walk even if they weren't going to finish until they took summer classes. WTF
 

frostedflakes

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
WTF, my highschool allowed a kid to walk for the exact same reasons. Had cancer, fell behind, would obviously be able to make it up over summer. And yeah, like others, I knew plenty of people who walked at college without receiving their diploma.

She should crash the ceremony. It'd be appropriately embarrassing for the highschool if a substantial number of students showed up, then walked OUT.

Or gets one of the speakers to give a speech about how the school is crappy and wont let her walk because she missed classes due to cancer. That would be simple stunning.
That would be fantastic, I'd love to see something like this. Such overwhelming support from her classmates would probably make up for not being able to walk.

Originally posted by: senseamp
School is right. Cancer is her problem, she should get over her sense of entitlement.
Must... ignore... troll...
 

Xavier434

Lifer
Oct 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: senseamp
School is right. Cancer is her problem, she should get over her sense of entitlement.

Get over your sense of entitlement to troll these forums.
 

Linflas

Lifer
Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: senseamp
School is right. Cancer is her problem, she should get over her sense of entitlement.

What entitlement? If I understand the problem she will have all the credits necessary for a diploma after summer school. When I graduated from University I still had 1 class left to take to meet the requirements for a degree in Geology, a field course that can only be taken in after regular classes are finished. They let me participate in graduation in May even though the official date on my diploma is August. This wasn't something they did special just for me, it was how they handled it for people in my situation.
 

pnad

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May 23, 2006
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Why didn't her English teacher just give her a pass?

I think a student/parent protest would resolve the issue also.
 

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Well, her school district policy says she must complete coursework to walk at graduation. They shouldn't be changing it just to accommodate one student's situation. Plus sh!t happens. Other students may have their own family or health problems that prevent them from completing course work, school should not be put in position to make subjective judgment calls on who should or shouldn't walk.
 

Xavier434

Lifer
Oct 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: senseamp
School is right. Cancer is her problem, she should get over her sense of entitlement.

What entitlement? If I understand the problem she will have all the credits necessary for a diploma after summer school. When I graduated from University I still had 1 class left to take to meet the requirements for a degree in Geology, a field course that can only be taken in after regular classes are finished. They let me participate in graduation in May even though the official date on my diploma is August. This wasn't something they did special just for me, it was how they handled it for people in my situation.

Don't bother feeding him. He is so strung up on the idea of hating people that feel entitled to things that he believes they shouldn't have that it has completely dulled his ability to think outside of the box on this issue.
 

Codewiz

Diamond Member
Jan 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: senseamp
Well, her school district policy says she must complete coursework to walk at graduation. They shouldn't be changing it just to accommodate one student's situation. Plus sh!t happens. Other students may have their own family or health problems that prevent them from completing course work, school should not be put in position to make subjective judgment calls on who should or shouldn't walk.

There are rules and there are reasons to suspend said rules.

Do you want police officers that looted stores(in an effort to help people) in NYC during 9/11 prosecuted? Of course not.

There are extenuating circumstances and the school should consider it.