Yet another Right Wing Olympic Rage Thread - Transgender (or not) edition

[WelshBloke]

Lol at people thinking that there's a trans athlete representing fucking Algeria!
Where you can go to jail for two years just for being gay.

 

[Indus]

Lol at people thinking that there's a trans athlete representing fucking Algeria!
Where you can go to jail for two years just for being gay.

Everyone's a trans person to them who isn't a Trumpanzee/ conservaterrorist tory!

FFS just look at JK Rowling's hate!

 

[Stokely]

Hell I'm still trying to figure out how gay marriage destroys regular marriage, now trans people are going to destroy civilization apparently....I need a maga primer.

As I say, I'm just relieved we've apparently solved all the big issues to the point where we are all the way down to "trans" (which isn't even the case based on evidence so far) women's boxing. We must be close to utopia.

 

[Indus]

Hell I'm still trying to figure out how gay marriage destroys regular marriage, now trans people are going to destroy civilization apparently....I need a maga primer.

As I say, I'm just relieved we've apparently solved all the big issues to the point where we are all the way down to "trans" (which isn't even the case based on evidence so far) women's boxing. We must be close to utopia.

It seems to me all these "trans" issues are "look squirrel" to distract from their shitty policies.

Narrative becomes we must either end up sacrificing the trans or our main policies as we lose focus which is by design to fracture the coalition. In the end we get nothing done. -- DIVIDE AND RULE v. 2024

If we have to sacrifice something.. I say it's the muslims because they aren't very accepting of left wing philosophy in politics or social issues.

FFS there's a reason even Swedish leftists now doesn't want more Muslim immigrants.. they seem to act like right wingers and attack the left.

 

[pmv]

So fucking stupid.
A man beat up a woman in the Olympics and you fellows think it's a fine thing.

So fucking stupid. A woman with a genetic difference that gives her an advantage, wins (in an inherently violent sport) and you think it's all about trans-gender politics, rather than being about the intrinsic uneven playing field of almost all competitive sport (and the intrinsic brutality of boxing - which is, surely, all about beating people up?).

 

[hal2kilo]

So fucking stupid. A woman with a genetic difference that gives her an advantage, wins (in an inherently violent sport) and you think it's all about trans-gender politics, rather than being about the intrinsic uneven playing field of almost all competitive sport (and the intrinsic brutality of boxing - which is, surely, all about beating people up?).

Basketball as an obvious example.

 

[kage69]

The usual suspects still don't understand that XY females exist, or just don't care.

If you don't have a problem with Jamie Lee Curtis, you shouldn't have a problem with Khelif. So she can bring it, why would she be at the damn Olympics if she didn't know how to effectively tune someone up?

Less time howling over what constitutes a woman, more time pondering how to be a better American please. Oh wait, if you worship a rapist and Epstein compadre and vote for the party of child marriage and 11 year olds having babies, no one gives a fuck what you think about sexuality and gender. Nevermind.

 

[HomerJS]

The usual suspects still don't understand that XY females exist, or just don't care.

If you don't have a problem with Jamie Lee Curtis, you shouldn't have a problem with Khelif. So she can bring it, why would she be at the damn Olympics if she didn't know how to effectively tune someone up?

Less time howling over what constitutes a woman, more time pondering how to be a better American please. Oh wait, if you worship a rapist and Epstein compadre and vote for the party of child marriage and 11 years having babies, no gives a fuck what you think about sexuality and gender. Nevermind.

That’s how people like Riley Gaines continue to make a living

 

[iRONic]

So fucking stupid.
A man beat up a woman in the Olympics and you fellows think it's a fine thing.

Part of that post is correct.

 

[JD50]

So fucking stupid.
A man beat up a woman in the Olympics and you fellows think it's a fine thing.

She has a vagina you dumb fuck. I've had to listen to you bigots obsess over genitals for years, and now you're interested in the nuance of chromosomes and hormone levels?

 

[Brainonska511]

She has a vagina you dumb fuck. I've had to listen to you bigots obsess over genitals for years, and now you're interested in the nuance of chromosomes and hormone levels?

They're going to create a new "One Drop" rule because being the weird genital police isn't enough.

 

[raildogg]

People like to jump on things without much research. A lot of this is because of social media - it gives people too much ability to share their stupidity with others and it spreads. They jumped on the Algerian boxer without too much research. But this is also because there is a right wing narrative about gender issues and sexuality lately (and also because the person is non-European so that helps their cause). I saw some call the Algerian boxer trans etc. This is not true.

 

[brycejones]

People like to jump on things without much research. A lot of this is because of social media - it gives people too much ability to share their stupidity with others and it spreads. They jumped on the Algerian boxer without too much research. But this is also because there is a right wing narrative about gender issues and sexuality lately (and also because the person is non-European so that helps their cause). I saw some call the Algerian boxer trans etc. This is not true.

The raildogg account is now being handled by AI.

 

[kage69]

Darn that social media.

 

[Sunburn74]

Best summary on the topic of trans athletes in sports. (Btw I know the boxer isnt trans)

Honestly we shouldn't care. Sports are stupid and those who win often do so because of genetic advantages. What's an acceptable genetic advantages however is debatable and will change over time as people's tastes change. I know someone whose parent was an Olympic athlete in long distance track and field and apparently tested positive for a genetic mutation that prevented them from making lactic acid. Is that fair? I mean come on it's all a joke.

 

[mikeymikec]

Hell I'm still trying to figure out how gay marriage destroys regular marriage

Even though Douglas Adams had already made his feelings about conservatives clear in hhgttg, I can't help but think that the Vogons were another shot across that particular bow:

“Secondly, we are about to jump into hyperspace for the journey to Barnard’s Star. On arrival we will stay in dock for a seventy-two-hour refit, and no one’s to leave the ship during that time. I repeat, all planet leave is cancelled. I’ve just had an unhappy love affair, so I don’t see why anybody else should have a good time.”

 

[Amused]

 

[MrSquished]

@Greenman - I would hope that all this new information that has come to light, you re-evaluate your position and perhaps question the credibility of the sources you initially relied on.

He is incapable. He is a piece of shit. This has been established approximately a thousand times here already.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Another layer of all this transphobic hypocrisy is the claim to be acting out of concern for female athletes and women’s sports, when what you’re doing is scrutinizing and denouncing female athletes for not “looking feminine” enough.

What impact do they think this is having on girl athletes who aren’t stereotypically pretty or feminine-looking? Do they imagine that the prospect of being raked over the coals in the media for their short hair, or their muscular appearance, or their heavy jaw, or whatever, makes the prospect of sports competition more appealing to those girls?

These insane, vicious gender police are themselves doing more damage to women’s sports than thousands of high-achieving transgender and/or XY female athletes would ever do.

I wonder what all this very public speculation and bullshitting about her innermost self will do to Imane Khelif. I wish her the very best and that she’ll get out of this shitstorm of a mess as unharmed as possible. Hopefully she returns to Algeria a hero and is not jailed or even killed.

Her next opponent, a Hungarian, was unsurprisingly reposting quite vile memes and comments.

 

[JujuFish]

Her next opponent, a Hungarian, was unsurprisingly reposting quite vile memes and comments.

She already beat Anna Hamori. Her next opponent is Janjaem Suwannapheng.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I think the issue is Khelif has XY chromosomes which is genetic male. She also failed a gender test issued by a previous boxing federation.

While I have little interest in this due to it firstly being the Olympics and secondly it not involving the US. The little I have heard it she is not an XY but a generic woman with ovaries that behave more like testicles as in she produces (far?) more testosterone than a typical woman.

Again I have little interest in this matter I can easily be wrong.
I do have to wonder if that should bar her from competing.

 

[brycejones]

While I have little interest in this due to it firstly being the Olympics and secondly it not involving the US. The little I have heard it she is not an XY but a generic woman with ovaries that behave more like testicles as in she produces (far?) more testosterone than a typical woman.

Again I have little interest in this matter I can easily be wrong.
I do have to wonder if that should bar her from competing.

Should Michael Phelps have been banned for having a freakish lung capacity combined with long arms? Should basketball players over 6’2 be banned because their height is an unfair advantage?


The notion of arbitrary genetic advantages in sport being “illegal” is just bonkers.

 

[nickqt]

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Should Michael Phelps have been banned for having a freakish lung capacity combined with long arms? Should basketball players over 6’2 be banned because their height is an unfair advantage?


The notion of arbitrary genetic advantages in sport being “illegal” is just bonkers.

Arbitrary genetic advantages is the entire reason we have professional-level sports.

 

[Jaskalas]

The usual suspects still don't understand that XY females exist, or just don't care.

Do we have ANY evidence that this is even the case here? Outside Russians crying over their loss?
We know Republicans go for whatever Putin tells them to do, but we should beware anything even remotely related to their often baseless claims until we have independent verification.

 

[JD50]

While I have little interest in this due to it firstly being the Olympics and secondly it not involving the US. The little I have heard it she is not an XY but a generic woman with ovaries that behave more like testicles as in she produces (far?) more testosterone than a typical woman.

Again I have little interest in this matter I can easily be wrong.
I do have to wonder if that should bar her from competing.

Do you think the only reason that someone like Usain Bolt can run as fast as he does is because he trains harder than everyone else, or do you think he might have some genetic advantages that other people don't have? How about Katie Ledecky? Or maybe Aaron Judge? Maybe if I just spent more time in the batting cage I could be in the majors setting home run records.