Do it. We will bring our computers and nef so much that your DSL will be shut down for using too much bandwidth. Plus, think of all the power we'll use up! And then we will eat their food. Then we can use their bathroom and use up all the soap and toilet paper.
Do it. We will bring our computers and nef so much that your DSL will be shut down for using too much bandwidth. Plus, think of all the power we'll use up! And then we will eat their food. Then we can use their bathroom and use up all the soap and toilet paper.
kranky
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"Well, ladies, if we can't come to an agreement on this rent issue, I'll have no choice but to pursue other ideas for earning enough extra money. The easiest thing for me would be to let people "borrow" my room during the day (for a fee, of course) if they need a place to hook up. Of course, I'll ask them to turn the music up loud so you won't have to hear them go at it."
just tell them thatyhou have to install webcams in every room to pay for everything .
that will help
that will help
kami
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Ah room mates. It's impossible to have the perfect room mate. The ones I live with now are my best buddies and i love em to death but there are still many things that annoy the crap out of me.
I volunteered to take care of all the utilities, collect the money and pay them off in time. We split everything 3 ways. While I do always get the money eventually, I sometimes have to front them. I'm considering charging interest but I don't want them to take it the wrong way.
I have caught them eating my food, drinking my pop, etc. it's not that bad but at least its something for me to fall back on when I run out of food. "you owe me"
They use my shampoo. You know something is wrong when there is like 5 bottles in the shower but only one (mine) has any shampoo in it. I took it out last week and kept it in my bedroom and the next morning i hear "hey where's our shampoo"
I am kind of lazy with some things. One of them being dishes. I hate doing them for some reason...therefore I use the same glass for every single beverage i have, and I use paper plates exclusively. The only dishes I use are utensils. I use pots and pans but clean them even before I sit down to eat.
The sink is always full of them to the brim and they sometimes tell me its my turn to do them
THEY LEAVE THE DAMN LIGHTS ON WHEREVER THEY GO! Electricity isn't free I try to tell them. Considering taking out all light bulbs except the essentials and replacing the remaining ones with 20 watt bulbs.
Other than that they rock and I have a blast living with them Go figure
I volunteered to take care of all the utilities, collect the money and pay them off in time. We split everything 3 ways. While I do always get the money eventually, I sometimes have to front them. I'm considering charging interest but I don't want them to take it the wrong way.
I have caught them eating my food, drinking my pop, etc. it's not that bad but at least its something for me to fall back on when I run out of food. "you owe me"
They use my shampoo. You know something is wrong when there is like 5 bottles in the shower but only one (mine) has any shampoo in it. I took it out last week and kept it in my bedroom and the next morning i hear "hey where's our shampoo"
I am kind of lazy with some things. One of them being dishes. I hate doing them for some reason...therefore I use the same glass for every single beverage i have, and I use paper plates exclusively. The only dishes I use are utensils. I use pots and pans but clean them even before I sit down to eat.
The sink is always full of them to the brim and they sometimes tell me its my turn to do them
THEY LEAVE THE DAMN LIGHTS ON WHEREVER THEY GO! Electricity isn't free I try to tell them. Considering taking out all light bulbs except the essentials and replacing the remaining ones with 20 watt bulbs.
Other than that they rock and I have a blast living with them
Go figureNot asking about the missing $50.00 in the rent checks was a mistake. It sounds a little bit delicate (as they are your friends), but you need to get this out of the way. I would speak with some clarity about your intentions when you offered them the rooms for 650.00, and when you agreed to have dsl installed (which I don't know is commonly accepted as a standard "utility"). Instead of simply lecturing, you can offer them two choices. The first idea is your original plan which is $650 + 1/3 DSL each. The second idea is that you get rid of the DSL and they each pay 640.00 a month (the concession should cost you the same as if you were footing the 1/3 over for dsl you don't use). If it was me, I would also try to smooth their feathers a little by offering to pay 2/3 of the dsl bill for the first month, just because there was the misundestanding.
tell them you are setting up 24 hr. webcams (with paid online access) in every room in the house to cover utility costs because you can't handle the full load.
So basically you think she should bend over and take it in the bad place?
Why should she pay more for their misunderstanding? What person in their right mind would honestly think that one roommate would pay for ALL the bills.
heh. that's what's clever about this approach. with the exception of the optional, extra 1/3rd of this month's dsl bill, it costs nothing more than she was willing to originally part with. as far as I understand it, the question is, "why are my roommates trying to extort an extra $100/month from me". you can take a moral stand and gain nothing except bitter roommates and perhaps unrecoverable debts, or you can deftly redirect the misunderstanding in a way that satisfies the original criteria and keeps everything amicable.
ok.. I think I read all of this, and even followed it. so.. my take:
showing them the ad and saying they owe 650 isn't going to work, because the ad says 630. still a better position to be in than 600.. accepting the originally advertised 630 is the least acceptable solution.
can't cancel the dsl, because it's not in your name. you CAN change your mind about paying for it though.. you're not using it, why should you pay for it? probably though, in coming months, that's just going to amount to.. 15-17 bucks or so.. not a huge amount, you can live up to that agreement with no real pain, providing they live up to theirs.
cutting off the utilities is rash, but would certainly get their attention. the real downside to that is they're undoubtedly going to have reconnect fees.. more money that's got to come from somewhere. the other possible problem with that is that it may not be legal to shut off the utilities in an apartment (may be a violation of the lease). throwing the appropriate breakers might be a reasonable and legal tactic.. no electricity in their bedrooms. really really really hope you don't have to go there, there is NO way y'all are going to manage to live in a civil way for the rest of the year if you do that.
sit down and tell them that there appears to be a misunderstanding as to what was agreed to. explain to them that your understanding, the conditions underwhich you invited them to share the apartment with you, were that they would pay 650 a month, which included rent and their share of the utilities (hence the "utilities included" statement). show them paperwork that backs up the fact that utilities are always at least 150 and frequently over that, proving to them that the 50/month share is no more than 1/3 of what the actual bills are. providing that's true. if they're ever less than that then demonstrate that at least if averaged over 12 months, utilities amount to more than 150/month. explain to them that you cannot afford to, nor is it fair to expect you to pay 100% of the utility bills each month, that your room is not $150/month larger than theirs.
As a compromise, you can offer to pay 630/month for your room and reduce their rent to 585/month each, to reflect the difference in room size, and then treat the utilities in the same manner you're currently handling the DSL.. everybody pays exactly 1/3 of the actual bill each month. that's going to be the best/fairest/most equitable solution.. you're still better off than you were under the advertised 630/month deal, they can see they're paying less rent for smaller rooms, they can see exactly where their utility money is going. they're paying (most months) less than the 650 total, you're better off than you would have been if they were paying 630 as originally advertised and way better off than you are right this minute.
ok.. I think that's perfect. each party is giving something. so nobody feels especially taken advantage of, and nobody feels especially like they won something over the others, either.. evens the playing field, makes way for y'all to be good roommates.
once you get that settled, ask them to please stop eating your food.
showing them the ad and saying they owe 650 isn't going to work, because the ad says 630. still a better position to be in than 600.. accepting the originally advertised 630 is the least acceptable solution.
can't cancel the dsl, because it's not in your name. you CAN change your mind about paying for it though.. you're not using it, why should you pay for it? probably though, in coming months, that's just going to amount to.. 15-17 bucks or so.. not a huge amount, you can live up to that agreement with no real pain, providing they live up to theirs.
cutting off the utilities is rash, but would certainly get their attention. the real downside to that is they're undoubtedly going to have reconnect fees.. more money that's got to come from somewhere. the other possible problem with that is that it may not be legal to shut off the utilities in an apartment (may be a violation of the lease). throwing the appropriate breakers might be a reasonable and legal tactic.. no electricity in their bedrooms. really really really hope you don't have to go there, there is NO way y'all are going to manage to live in a civil way for the rest of the year if you do that.
sit down and tell them that there appears to be a misunderstanding as to what was agreed to. explain to them that your understanding, the conditions underwhich you invited them to share the apartment with you, were that they would pay 650 a month, which included rent and their share of the utilities (hence the "utilities included" statement). show them paperwork that backs up the fact that utilities are always at least 150 and frequently over that, proving to them that the 50/month share is no more than 1/3 of what the actual bills are. providing that's true. if they're ever less than that then demonstrate that at least if averaged over 12 months, utilities amount to more than 150/month. explain to them that you cannot afford to, nor is it fair to expect you to pay 100% of the utility bills each month, that your room is not $150/month larger than theirs.
As a compromise, you can offer to pay 630/month for your room and reduce their rent to 585/month each, to reflect the difference in room size, and then treat the utilities in the same manner you're currently handling the DSL.. everybody pays exactly 1/3 of the actual bill each month. that's going to be the best/fairest/most equitable solution.. you're still better off than you were under the advertised 630/month deal, they can see they're paying less rent for smaller rooms, they can see exactly where their utility money is going. they're paying (most months) less than the 650 total, you're better off than you would have been if they were paying 630 as originally advertised and way better off than you are right this minute.
ok.. I think that's perfect. each party is giving something. so nobody feels especially taken advantage of, and nobody feels especially like they won something over the others, either.. evens the playing field, makes way for y'all to be good roommates.
once you get that settled, ask them to please stop eating your food.
You goofed. Never say you'll pay for utilities or your roommates will each bring home a halogen + use the A/C & heater all the time. You remember the utility abuse in the dorms? All I can remember was, I felt sorry for the dorms because we all had halogens and our monitors were on 24/7.
Well, this problem is your fault. Unless you have it in writing, like a copy of the ad you ran in the paper, it's their word against yours. This is why you should get everything in writing. Whatever you agree on tonight should be immediately typed up and signed by each person, that is, each person has a contract with you.
Just tell them effective immediately that the rent is $650 a month. If they don't like it, they are welcome to leave within 30 days or whatever the law allows. If you're not using the DSL and don't want access to it, tell them you're no longer paying for it and if it is in your name, it will be cancelled immediately, because you do not want to be liable for any non-payments.
Since they are both in agreement on the price and, assuming you have nothing in writing, you don't have much to go by. So I'd give them 30 days to get out and start running a new ad immediately.
And if you didn't get my point: get things in writing.
Just tell them effective immediately that the rent is $650 a month. If they don't like it, they are welcome to leave within 30 days or whatever the law allows. If you're not using the DSL and don't want access to it, tell them you're no longer paying for it and if it is in your name, it will be cancelled immediately, because you do not want to be liable for any non-payments.
Since they are both in agreement on the price and, assuming you have nothing in writing, you don't have much to go by. So I'd give them 30 days to get out and start running a new ad immediately.
And if you didn't get my point: get things in writing.
Very well thoughtout and well-stated. Thank you, anno.
I want everyone to come out of this feeling like things are fair... I don't want any of us to walk away feeling like we were just cheated. I also want to keep bad blood to a minimum, as I will have to LIVE with these two girls for the next eleven months. I like the idea about me paying $630/month, them paying $585/month and splitting ALL the utilities three ways... that way, they'll feel like they got something out of it, and I won't have to pay extra money up the wazoo.
And YES, lesson DEFINITELY learned... from this point on, I'll be sure to get EVERYTHING in writing. WITH signatures. Lesson learned the hard way.
Just collect 650 because thats what they agreed to. BUT, you have to deal with this in a manner so that they won't hate you and start talking behind your back. Nothing is worse than being stuck in a situation where this is unspoken drama.
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