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HomerJS

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Did the El Paso shooter give up peacefully and follow police orders? Eric Garner didn't, he should have.
John Crawford wasn't given the chance to give up peacefully. He was talking on his phone and the police just shot him.
 
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HomerJS

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so, did he pull his gun? Probably not, because he's smart. Cops would have blown him away instantly.
Cops would have blown him away because of his dark skin he can never be one of those "good guys with a gun"
 
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The Walmart is on mall property and is a posted no carry zone.

Have you decided who's to blame here? Is it Trump or the gun? Stupid fuckers.
You just ignored every post that explained to you the Walmart was a stand alone building and allowed carrying didn’t you? Thought you said facts mattered?
 
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Per Fox its still to soon. Discussing the reasons behind this shooting is "politicizing tragedy"
At this point every conversation we have about gun violence is too late. Is way too fucking late. There’s no time between incidents to pause.
 

Jaskalas

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John Crawfrord wasn't given the change to give up peacefully. He was talking on his phone and the police just shot him.

John Crawford was taken unawares, while HOLDING a "gun" in his hands. Police approach, make noise, suspect turns to face the noise. AKA, suspect points his gun at them. Suspect is going to die. That scenario happens frequently enough.

You have NO GOD DAMN IDEA how the police approached Patrick Crusius or if he even had his rifle in hand at the time. Fact is, he is alive today, probably because HE DID NOT point a gun at police. Crawford, through basically no fault of his own, did.

That's the difference, and it beggars belief that you refuse to understand that.
 

HomerJS

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From what it sounds like he brought his gun for that purpose but I guess didn’t encounter the shooter
So let me ask you since this scanario 2A absolutists salivate over. What do you think would have happened to a black man pulling out his gun in an area where shots were already fired? What would have happened to him if the police came upon him? Use your common sense and your sense of history.
 
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SlowSpyder

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Good to see the media today calling these people what they are. Terrorists. They are pushing hard on it too.
 

DrDoug

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It is a fair question. As much as indoctrinated victim liberals like to pretend the police are out there just hunting black people, the reality is maybe listening to the police and following the law can go a long way in saving lives and preventing situations like Eric Garner.

But, a lot of role models in the African American community would rather do this type of thing. Teaching kids not to respect the police will not help save lives.

Fuck off, Comrade Troll.
 
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HomerJS

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John Crawford was taken unawares, while HOLDING a "gun" in his hands. Police approach, make noise, suspect turns to face the noise. AKA, suspect points his gun at them. Suspect is going to die. That scenario happens frequently enough.

You have NO GOD DAMN IDEA how the police approached Patrick Crusius or if he even had his rifle in hand at the time. Fact is, he is alive today, probably because HE DID NOT point a gun at police. Crawford, through basically no fault of his own, did.

That's the difference, and it beggars belief that you refuse to understand that.
JC was legally carrying at the Walmart, unless it is your assertion that doesn't apply to black people. Second he did not aim his gun towards the police he turned around and was killed for it.
 
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brycejones

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Comes across as a politician, singing to his base. Ruffle no feathers of your constituency. Were I a Texan, there's no way he'd get my vote.
The only things a GOP politician has to promise in Texas is they love the baby Jesus and they won’t let anything get in the way of business because freedumb.
 

theeedude

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According to the manifesto I've been Reading, he did it to help Republicans keep Texas, because too many Hispanics were voting Democrat. He is in the Republican mainstream with that argument.
 
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According to the manifesto I've been Reading, he did it to help Republicans keep Texas, because too many Hispanics were voting Democrat. He is in the Republican mainstream with that argument.
Well you can’t blame republicans for spreading that sentiment. It’s assholes like this guy who shoulder that blame.


This guy is the current sitting.... Senator for... know what nevermind.
 
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HomerJS

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It is a fair question. As much as indoctrinated victim liberals like to pretend the police are out there just hunting black people, the reality is maybe listening to the police and following the law can go a long way in saving lives and preventing situations like Eric Garner.

But, a lot of role models in the African American community would rather do this type of thing. Teaching kids not to respect the police will not help save lives.
Really fuckwad.? You still haven't acknowledged blacks "behaving like you want" didn't help John Crawford.

Know who else it didn't help? Levar Jones. Black man stopped by white cop. White cop asks for his ID, black man immediately complies and wash shot for it.

I'm sure you don't give a damn because our lives don't matter.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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It is a fair question. As much as indoctrinated victim liberals like to pretend the police are out there just hunting black people, the reality is maybe listening to the police and following the law can go a long way in saving lives and preventing situations like Eric Garner.

But, a lot of role models in the African American community would rather do this type of thing. Teaching kids not to respect the police will not help save lives.


Antifa did it. Oh no, it appears that this is a right wing terrorist, the one's you divert from.
 

umbrella39

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According to the manifesto I've been Reading, he did it to help Republicans keep Texas, because too many Hispanics were voting Democrat. He is in the Republican mainstream with that argument.

Sickening...

It's almost as if these foot soldiers were getting their marching orders somewhere...
 
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According to the manifesto I've been Reading, he did it to help Republicans keep Texas, because too many Hispanics were voting Democrat. He is in the Republican mainstream with that argument.

The one state that will get the GOP singing the praises of abolishing the EC. Mark my words.
 

cytg111

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Also, a reminder. Many times as many innocent victims died from second hand smoke as this tragedy, but you don't care. Your Democrat puppet masters haven't told you to care, so you don't. You don't care about saving lives, you care about limiting guns. If you cared about saving lives I'd see a lot more angst from the liberals here about these bigger killers that have no benefit to society. But you simply don't care about saving lives, you care about harming the 2A because the right is pro-2A. That's really all you care about, not agreeing with the right.
Go get that fcking help NOW, you are not right in the head!!!... Gogogogogogo
 

cytg111

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I knew that term was going to catch on in a big way.
I guess its a technically more accurate description of a hate speaker... or rather a hate speaker that has had some success (cause the success indicates the presence of statistical data to back it up..)
 

K1052

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According to the manifesto I've been Reading, he did it to help Republicans keep Texas, because too many Hispanics were voting Democrat. He is in the Republican mainstream with that argument.

The killer's manifesto could double as a Tucker or Ingrahm segment on Fox and nobody in that viewership would raise an eyebrow. The Republican Party is a a far right white nationalist one now and should be openly regarded as such. It's that simple.