Yale student screaming at professor for not providing safe space

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Zorba

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(I hate making the "their both the same" argument, but...) The extreme left and the extreme right are ironically quite similar when it comes to free speech. In their minds, free speech means hearing only what you want to hear. Otherwise, feel free to suppress speech and stick your fingers in your ears. The very idea of having your beliefs challenged is an anathema.

I agree that left and right is more of a circle than a line, and the extremes tend to overlap in authoritarianism. What scares me, is the drive to end any 'painful' free speech seems to be creeping further into non-extreme liberals.

I think some of it is humans have proven time and time again, they have to have an enemy, they have to have someone they hate. So the boogiemen the far left has picked are closeted racists/sexist, etc. Therefore, they look for it in every single action, and are willing to destroy people's lives for any perceived slight. They think it is fine to be prejudice as long as that prejudice is directed at the South or a white person. One way you can see that they are driven by hate is just the complete lync mob mentality they take on anytime they decide someone has crossed the line.

The University of Missouri situation is good illustration of this. I see nothing the president could have directly or indirectly done about the three incidents, yet people are calling for his job and they are demanding that he admit to his "White Privilege."
 

cubby1223

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I agree that left and right is more of a circle than a line, and the extremes tend to overlap in authoritarianism. What scares me, is the drive to end any 'painful' free speech seems to be creeping further into non-extreme liberals.

I think some of it is humans have proven time and time again, they have to have an enemy, they have to have someone they hate. So the boogiemen the far left has picked are closeted racists/sexist, etc. Therefore, they look for it in every single action, and are willing to destroy people's lives for any perceived slight. They think it is fine to be prejudice as long as that prejudice is directed at the South or a white person. One way you can see that they are driven by hate is just the complete lync mob mentality they take on anytime they decide someone has crossed the line.

The University of Missouri situation is good illustration of this. I see nothing the president could have directly or indirectly done about the three incidents, yet people are calling for his job and they are demanding that he admit to his "White Privilege."

I agree with most of that.

I think it's coupled with the fact that most people are realizing they live boring, meaningless lives. I do. Hating something and taking a stand against it is a way to feel alive, feel important in this world. Can any of us honestly say we believe these people in these news items have anything more important to do with their lives?
 

PokerGuy

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This is the kind of rampant stupidity we're breeding with political correctness. Unfortunately, the backlash won't come until it's far too late.
 
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Mental illness is alive and well in our schools. We have some interesting issues going on at the University of Missouri right now. I'm hoping the administration doesn't cave.
 

cubby1223

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This is the kind of rampant stupidity we're breeding with political correctness. Unfortunately, the backlash won't come until it's far too late.

The backlash is going to come in the form of the rest of us working twice as hard to pay for their free college tuition and their welfare checks after they decided they were too good to use the opportunity in front of them to learn relevant knowledge and skills for being productive in the world.
 

Genx87

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These people are codifying restrictions on free speech and expression under the guise of protecting the easily offended. Universities are supposed to be a place where freedom of speech and thought is welcomed with the goal to challenge ones own image of the world. Now it is turning into a giant safe zone where people get to reinforce their own views and never think outside the box. That is going to create a generation of unthinking narcissists. And with the keys to our nuclear stockpile and most powerful military the world has ever seen. That gets real scary.
 
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Mental illness is alive and well in our schools. We have some interesting issues going on at the University of Missouri right now. I'm hoping the administration doesn't cave.

Wow, I hadn't seen that Missouri story until you guys mentioned it.

I guess President Obama should step down since black people are still the poorest race amirite? It's his fault they aren't all driving brand new cars and have new bling bling :sneaky:


edit: WOW at Missouri they are DEMANDING that they TRIPLE the amount of black employee's (professors?) that the university hires. You have got to be shitting me. Tell them to name and bring forward 100+ black people that are QUALIFIED with doctorates and such to be professor. Oh, you can't find that many? Ohhhh... that's too bad.

Stupid toolbags don't even know what they are asking for.
 
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Wow, I hadn't seen that Missouri story until you guys mentioned it.

I guess President Obama should step down since black people are still the poorest race amirite? It's his fault they aren't all driving brand new cars and have new bling bling :sneaky:


edit: WOW at Missouri they are DEMANDING that they TRIPLE the amount of black employee's (professors?) that the university hires. You have got to be shitting me. Tell them to name and bring forward 100+ black people that are QUALIFIED with doctorates and such to be professor. Oh, you can't find that many? Ohhhh... that's too bad.

Stupid toolbags don't even know what they are asking for.
It's a mess for sure. If the football team decides to protest by not playing BYU this weekend, they should consider pulling their tax-payer funded athletic scholarships imo. This kind of bullshit just went too far. I probably should start a thread on this, but I'm too lazy.
 

Subyman

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To be honest, my brother goes to Ole Miss. There is racism. I'm not one to try to find racism everywhere, but it is very obvious there especially within the wealthy frats. I've heard numerous stories of guys not only yelling at black people but also at the disabled. When I was there I first hand experienced punk-ass white dudes talking down to black people. They recently had a kid put a noose around a black man's statue. There are serious issues in Mississippi, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were some in Missouri as well.

Its hard to know until you are there for a bit of time to get the vibe.
 

thraashman

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Wow, I hadn't seen that Missouri story until you guys mentioned it.

I guess President Obama should step down since black people are still the poorest race amirite? It's his fault they aren't all driving brand new cars and have new bling bling :sneaky:


edit: WOW at Missouri they are DEMANDING that they TRIPLE the amount of black employee's (professors?) that the university hires. You have got to be shitting me. Tell them to name and bring forward 100+ black people that are QUALIFIED with doctorates and such to be professor. Oh, you can't find that many? Ohhhh... that's too bad.

Stupid toolbags don't even know what they are asking for.
Just FYI there's no requirement to have a doctorate to be a professor. Usually if you refer to someone as professor it's because they don't have a doctorate and you refer to people with doctorates as "doctor".
It's a mess for sure. If the football team decides to protest by not playing BYU this weekend, they should consider pulling their tax-payer funded athletic scholarships imo. This kind of bullshit just went too far. I probably should start a thread on this, but I'm too lazy.
I think a lot of scholarships for sports are funded by the sports themselves. Especially a school like Mizzou which brings in the SEC money.
 

Texashiker

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The girl even goes on to state that their jobs at Yale isn't supposed to be about creating an intellectual space but rather making it feel like a home. She's going to have a tough time when she tries to get employed in the real world.

Somehow bleeding heart liberals will defend and try to comfort her.

Liberalism is creating a generation of crybabies who refuse to accept they are not special and their feelings are going to be hurt.

Yes, your feelings are going to be hurt. Deal with it.
 

Texashiker

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Just read the whole thing. Sad and interesting. Mostly sad.

Very sad indeed.

Education institutions are creating a generation who will be unable to deal with real life. The workplace, traffic, shopping,,,, they are not there to walk around someones emotions.

Young people need to learn how to deal with uncomfortable situations. This is part of our social skills. This generation will have no idea how to deal with people in real life.
 

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When I see stuff like this I hope it isn't indicative of a trend. Although with the "drinking & consent" training that is happening at colleges everywhere and the resurgence of the demands for politically correct speech I have to imagine that this is a trend and that it is bad and sad.

Anyway, college was a blast 20 years ago. Had great fun at halloween parties. I also recall a student at Berkeley at the time who attended all classes buck naked (well he wore a backpack). I'm not sure but I think he did so his entire time at college. Nobody gave a £#€%
 

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Just FYI there's no requirement to have a doctorate to be a professor. Usually if you refer to someone as professor it's because they don't have a doctorate and you refer to people with doctorates as "doctor".

Must be institution specific. I believe what you said may be true at some smaller private colleges. At the University of California every professor has a Ph.D and we called them professors (maybe there was 1 or 2 who weren't but I'd be surprised).
 

Anubis

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Just FYI there's no requirement to have a doctorate to be a professor. Usually if you refer to someone as professor it's because they don't have a doctorate and you refer to people with doctorates as "doctor".

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that's 100% school dependent

also we called them professor or doctor, they all had PHDs some just preferred to be called 1 of the other
 

Anubis

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Very sad indeed.

Education institutions are creating a generation who will be unable to deal with real life. The workplace, traffic, shopping,,,, they are not there to walk around someones emotions.

Young people need to learn how to deal with uncomfortable situations. This is part of our social skills. This generation will have no idea how to deal with people in real life.

we could start a mandatory military service program like some other countries do
 

glenn1

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we could start a mandatory military service program like some other countries do

No thanks, the military already has enough idiots already but at least they're willing to learn even if sometimes unable. We don't need to make things worse by adding lots of "educated" people who lack awareness of their own idiocy and would actively resist being taught how to behave outside their sheltered 'educational' environment.
 

Zorba

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glenn1

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Indeed he caved - but he is kinda... "Calling them out". Except in the end he says "I take full responsibility". That's where he went into stupid mode.

I guess the mob got what it wanted but unsure why it matters. I guess the next university president will be sure to acceede to their desire to issue a pro-forma, kabuki style denunciation the next time someone says something offensive. The token "we next are deeply saddened and offended that _____ happened which undermines the community of tolerace..." boilerplate statement that could be written by a computer bot is no doubt already being scripted.